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{SI] Shoot-In - Fractal Comments
"Quercus" wrote:
Wow, man, you're being hard on me... Chrome was not chrome, natural fractal is not fractal... snif :-( I didn't mean to be hard on you. In fact, you were in a close race for 2nd place until I eventually gave that position to N Lindan. See, here's your third place ribbon: (3)==*** I had the doubt with the chrome one, but I must disagree with this fractal thing. The leaves are not made up of oblong patterns; I was looking, in fact, the whole branch :-) If you pay attention the whole set of leaves has an oblong form (sort of, at least), similar to the oblong form that has each little branch on the sides of the main "trunk", and similar itself to the shape of every single leave... That's where I see the fractal, may be only in my eyes anyway... You make a good point. I've re-instated 4 points from the 5 point deduction. Can't say I'm not a flexible grader! About the green and blue... I know some people that think like your mom, but I just don't see why blue and green are supposed to not going together, they are everywhere in nature and they feel fine there. I agree 100%. I like the combination. I'm glad that you like the shadows and the lack of them, it was a risky bet for me, as I was not sure if I liked that effect, or not. So I chose to take the picture and decide later... And I'm still thinking :-) No need for further thought here. I like it. Thanks for your comments, I'll try to catch a no-doubt-one for the timing mandate for you ;-) -Quercus- Looking forward to it. P.S: I'm pushing my limits with english in these comments, so I hope I'm explaining myself in a correct way. You're not "pushing it" at all. I'd say your writing is better than 90% of Usenet posters whose mother tongue is English. And in case there's any doubt, you have way more than enough English writing skills to submit your own SI review. If nothing else, doing so would be a good way to 'get even' with me. |
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"Quercus" wrote
About the green and blue... I know some people that think like your mom, but I just don't see why blue and green are supposed to not going together, OK, imagine a green car with a blue interior [try and buy one - I read the factory won't take an order for a green & blue car]. they are everywhere in nature and they feel fine there. The only thing really blue in nature is the sky. There are [I imagine] a few deep blue flowers but I only know of a small blue lily. If you look at the color sensitivity of the eye we are least sensitive to the blues, with a big hole in the cyan section of the spectrum: the green receptors peter out before cyan and the blue receptors haven't yet started picking up signal. Interestingly, the color completely lacking in nature is cyan. We can not discern subtle shades of cyan: all cyans look like turquoise/swimming pool paint. Where the red and green receptors overlap is yellow, and we can see a zillion shades of yellow, green-yellow and orange - and brown, brown being a desaturated low-value yellow. Green leaves, yellow flowers, most food on the hoof is brown and hides in the forest/grass among other brown/yellow/green grasses, forest floor cover. Evolution makes the yellows colors of great interest. Wasps are colored yellow/black because it stands out. -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation http://www.nolindan.com/da/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com |
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Nicholas O. Lindan wrote:
"Quercus" wrote About the green and blue... I know some people that think like your mom, but I just don't see why blue and green are supposed to not going together, OK, imagine a green car with a blue interior [try and buy one - I read the factory won't take an order for a green & blue car]. they are everywhere in nature and they feel fine there. The only thing really blue in nature is the sky. There are [I imagine] a few deep blue flowers but I only know of a small blue lily. A good time to ask my "blue question": does anyone know of a popular, naturally blue food? Ever since my birthday in 1945, when none of the kids would eat the blue layer of a special patriotic cake, I've wondered. -- Frank ess |
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:08:41 -0700, "Frank ess"
wrote: does anyone know of a popular, naturally blue food? Blueberries. Cheers, DuncanC |
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"Duncan Chesley" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:08:41 -0700, "Frank ess" wrote: does anyone know of a popular, naturally blue food? Blueberries. Cheers, DuncanC & plums, grapes, & several other berries, and my wife bought a blue (or was it purple) cauliflower last Saturday...... |
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Mardon wrote:
"Quercus" wrote: Wow, man, you're being hard on me... Chrome was not chrome, natural fractal is not fractal... snif :-( I didn't mean to be hard on you. In fact, you were in a close race for 2nd place until I eventually gave that position to N Lindan. See, here's your third place ribbon: (3)==*** Ok, thank you, I'll put my ribbon with the other ones :-) I had the doubt with the chrome one, but I must disagree with this fractal thing. The leaves are not made up of oblong patterns; I was looking, in fact, the whole branch :-) If you pay attention the whole set of leaves has an oblong form (sort of, at least), similar to the oblong form that has each little branch on the sides of the main "trunk", and similar itself to the shape of every single leave... That's where I see the fractal, may be only in my eyes anyway... You make a good point. I've re-instated 4 points from the 5 point deduction. Can't say I'm not a flexible grader! You are, you are :-)))))))))))))))) Nicholas wrote: The only thing really blue in nature is the sky. Well, that's enough for me. But I am probably biased, as I do love forests, mountains, and blue skies. May be a green and blue car doesn't look fine, but a tree against a blue sky looks perfect for me, it's interesting how some people just hold on the idea that blue and green doesn't play well together and just say a picture "isn't that good" just because those colors fill it. Really interesing your words about color perception, I knew about green receptors dominating the others, but little more. Anyway, colors are just light reflection and absortion. So, once more everything in photography is about the light :-) |
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"William Graham" wrote:
& plums, grapes, & several other berries, and my wife bought a blue (or was it purple) cauliflower last Saturday...... Blue potatoes are common here. Many Newfoundlanders prefer them. They are not a deep blue but still, definately blue. |
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Mardon wrote: SNIP James Mondor http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/68336427 I like the film 'feel' and the grain in the dark areas of the background but I'd like to see the foreground leaves be sharper. The white and dark spots on the leaves are also distracting to my eye. What would this have been like without the orange filter I wonder? Any special reason for using it? I remember using a dark red filter a lot for that dramatic looks with B/W film. If it wasn't on, there wouldn't be as large of a difference in exposure from light to dark nor would the leaves on the lower right be as exposed as they had already turned their fall colour. I had some almost similar images that came sharper: http://tea.h1x.com:8080/usenet/hudson12%20web.jpg (server's a bit pokey) but I didn't like it as much as the one I submitted, which had a sort of spiral flow which reminded me of fractals I had seen. Thanks for the comments on mine and everyone's submissions. Take care, James |
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I'm no good with articulating praise and/or critique, so I'll just
comment on the ones that struck me. Bowser: I think I like your's the best. It reminds me of the old Life computer simulation. Mardon: I love the texture and not-quite symmetry Alan Browne: I don't think I've seen a fern that colour or at least stay that colour for long. It's almost like tarnished gold leaf, if there is such a thing. Jim Kramer: Your's is the only one I can't see what is going on, maybe I'm missing something. Take care, James |
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"Desdinova" wrote:
I had some almost similar images that came sharper: http://tea.h1x.com:8080/usenet/hudson12%20web.jpg but I didn't like it as much as the one I submitted, I like this one much better than your SI submission. Then again, I've already admitted to this group several times that I'm not a big fan of 'soft focus'. Oh well, differences in people help make the world go 'round. |
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