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In article .com,
wrote: The focusing screen in that D70 was just a matte/Fresnel. There was no split in the middle where you can focus by lining up two lines together. And it's hard to tell in the small viewfinder if the picture is in focus. The other thing I noticed is that the viewfinder screen is smaller. I'm older now, and it seems I need my glasses to focus through there. And, in the catalog, there is no diopter (?) correction for the D70. They have some for other Nikons, but not the D70. I have a D1 (for fun and experiments, my 'real' photos are still on film). In my experience, the ground glass in the D1 is quite suitable for manual focus (I only have manual focus Nikkors). The screen in the D1 can be replaced, but I don't think that Nikon makes a screen with focussing aids. The resolution of the D1 is a bit low, but the D1X may be a option. Second hand prices aren't all that high. And you get good compatibility with your manual focus Nikkors. -- That was it. Done. The faulty Monk was turned out into the desert where it could believe what it liked, including the idea that it had been hard done by. It was allowed to keep its horse, since horses were so cheap to make. -- Douglas Adams in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency |
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Dear experts, I've always used Nikon, and have a number of FE and FM cameras, and whole bunch of fixed focal length lenses. I took my equipment to the store the other day, and noticed a few issues. The focusing screen in that D70 was just a matte/Fresnel. There was no split in the middle where you can focus by lining up two lines together. And it's hard to tell in the small viewfinder if the picture is in focus. That can be a problem, as the viewfinder screen (permanent one, not changeable like the Nikon F was) is optimized for working with the autofocus mechanism. The other thing I noticed is that the viewfinder screen is smaller. I'm older now, and it seems I need my glasses to focus through there. And, in the catalog, there is no diopter (?) correction for the D70. They have some for other Nikons, but not the D70. There is none in the catalog because it is built into the camera. There is a ribbed sliding object just to the right of the eyepiece which can be used to adjust the diopter of the viewfinder eyepiece. To set that correctly, turn on the grid and the zone-of-focus indicators to give your eye something to judge the focus by. (These also help when focusing a lens, once the eyepiece is tuned, because they can help to anchor the focus of the eye, which can otherwise be pulled by an out-of-focus image -- as could an eye using the clear spot version of the Nikon F viewfinder, which is why there was a fine black '+' in the center of the spot. So, this brings up the question, if there is any real advantage to buying a Nikon digital so that I can use my old fixed manual focus sharp lenses, if I can't focus them. You can focus them -- but if they have no built-in electrical contacts, you cannot use the camera's metering system with them. The metering system for the D70 *must* see a chip in the lens. Some of the more expensive Nikon cameras will still work with any lens with the AI aperture ring (a couple of tabs on it to talk to sensors on the camera.) I could buy used Nikon autofocus lenses if I bought the Nikon. But then I could just buy used Canon lenses too if I bought a Canon. If your lenses have the chip, you can use them with the D70 metering once you tune the viewfinder to your eyeglass prescription. I understand that Canon has brought out a newer camera lately. Does anyone know how it compares on these issues? Does it have a diopter? Does it have different screens? I presume that it, also, has a built-in diopter adjustment like the Nikon D70. I don't know whether it has interchangeable screens, and this may be a function of *which* Cannon you are talking about. There are several, just as there are several Nikon DSLRs. The D70 is the one which I happen to have, so I can answer your implied question about the diopter correction. How does the Canon compare in any other area that you think is significant? Advantages? Disadvantages? Again -- *which* Cannon, compared against which of the Nikon cameras? If I had the money, I would be very tempted to change to the D2x, which would allow me to meter with some of my older lenses which can't be "chipped". (I had a nice 180mm f2.8 manual lens "chipped" so it will work nicely with the metering in the D70, though it still has no autofocus. You can also get used lenses *with* the autofocus. One of mine (a 50mm f1.4) was obtained used, and I expect to get others as time goes on. (I also expect to perform some modifications on some really old ones to allow me to actually mount them on the D70. Those too old to have the AI aperture ring won't mount, as the solid aperture ring interferes with the sensor that assures the D70 that a lens has been stopped down all the way. Good luck, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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In article dYm3f.1421$UF4.1052@fed1read02, "Mark=B2" mjmorgan(lowest=20
even number says... Well, here's something for you to chew on: on Friday last week I popped into one of the local photographic shops and I was fiddling around with the 5D, chatting to the manager. I asked him how much interest he had in the camera and he said that he had taken about 10 orders for it, but amazingly all of them were from people who were not regular photographers. They were mostly rich folks who had bought the camera (with one of the crappy kit lenses) because it was the newest thing and they had to had it. =20 There will always be people like that. I've seen people hauling around Leicas for the same reason: They think t= hey=20 look cool holding one. I'm sure that happens with all sorts of=20 things...cars...motorcycles...guns...and cameras. Meanwhile, those who= =20 actually know how to use a camera are using them well, regardless of how= =20 many dorks with money there might be--posing in their mirrors holding the= ir=20 new toy. Yep, too much disposable income. I once had a chat to a guy I saw=20 brandishing an F5 with a crappy Sigma lens on it. I wanted to know what=20 he thought of the camera and he prattled on about how it took the best=20 photos he ever saw. Sounds like another guy we know who owns an EOS1v.=20 The other side of the business coin you describe above is this: Canon makes most of their money from the sale of lenses. I disagree. Most of their money comes from selling office equipment and supplies. On the imaging side the bulk of the revenue that funds their operation is made from P&S digital cameras. =20 Since this is a discussion about photography equipment, I thought it woul= d=20 go without saying that I was referring to SLR photo equitpment $$ coming= =20 from sale of lenses, as opposed to bodies. =20 -Though actually, I suspect that with the huge successes of digital bodie= s,=20 that may be swinging a bit. I don't know.=20 The big money spinner for any manufacturer is the mass market. Give them=20 what they want and use the profits to fund development in other areas=20 where technology is more cutting edge. Same thing happens in the motor=20 industry with Formula One and Rally Championships.=20 --=20 DD (everything is temporary) www.dallasdahms.com |
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"Money spinner" - yes "Profit spinner" - no.
Mass market - GM, Ford, VW - losses Porsche - profits |
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"DD (Rox)" wrote in message ... In article Pmm3f.1415$UF4.617@fed1read02, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number says... At this point, the 5D isn't for the masses. A quickie indicator of this is its lack of built-in flash. This is for people who wouldn't likely neither want/need nor be satisfied with the pop-gun sized built-in flash. It is for serious photographers who want their wide angle lenses to work...and who want the high res of 12.8MP without sacrificing quality to noise. They have also indicated a plan to keep both the 1.6 crop-factor sensor range, and the full frame sizes in the future. Well, here's something for you to chew on: on Friday last week I popped into one of the local photographic shops and I was fiddling around with the 5D, chatting to the manager. I asked him how much interest he had in the camera and he said that he had taken about 10 orders for it, but amazingly all of them were from people who were not regular photographers. They were mostly rich folks who had bought the camera (with one of the crappy kit lenses) because it was the newest thing and they had to had it. The only "kit" I've heard of for the 5D is a European bundle with the 24-105 f4L IS, hardly a "crappy kit lens." C'mon, Dallas, at least try for a little objectivity. I was talking to the manager of the local Calumet, yesterday, and his comments were pretty much diametrically opposed to those of your store manager, most of the interest is from people like me, part time pros or full time pros who can't justify the cost of the 1Ds MkII. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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"sierra" wrote in message ups.com... "Money spinner" - yes "Profit spinner" - no. Mass market - GM, Ford, VW - losses Porsche - profits Porsche was nearly out of business 10 years ago, the Boxter is what saved them, a (relatively) mass market Porsche. Chrysler-profits-| |--DCX-losses. Mercedes-losses-| The mass market drives profits in a properly managed company, which, at this point, GM and Ford are not. Toyota, Honda and Renault/Nissan are largely mass market manufacturers, and very profitable. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:32:18 +0200, DD (Rox)
wrote: The big money spinner for any manufacturer is the mass market. Give them what they want and use the profits to fund development in other areas where technology is more cutting edge. Same thing happens in the motor industry with Formula One and Rally Championships. Not anymore as the mass market cameras are becoming commodities. (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05...ofit_soars.asp) The profits are in the high end digicams and dslrs. I believe all the manufacturers are or have realized this already. -- Alex atheist #2007 |
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:45:23 -0700, "Richard H." wrote:
Bingo. Not just because it's digital - because it's auto-focus. You'll find this with film AF cameras too. It's nearly impossible to manually focus sharply with the current SLR focus screens. Not just that. AF lenses are optimized for quick AF speed, which means that a small turn of the focus ring will give you more of a change in the focus distance compared to older (MF) lenses. -- Alex atheist #2007 |
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