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Question about Photo printers
Please I ask only those who have a college degree in a field relevent to this
question or professional photographers answer. Sorry I have to be so strict, but I need advice from people who know what they are talking about. But if you know what your talking about and do not have a degree go ahead and answer, but cite your sources, thanks... Question Will a home photo printer produce the same long term results as the 1 hour photo lab? When I mean long term, I mean a photo lasting a number of years without fade. My family purchased a cute little photo printer to go with our Sony digital camera that is 5-6MP MP I believe. The pictures look just as good as a 35mm, but I wonder if they will last 5-10 years. On the other hand I can go to a photo lab and insert a Memory Stick, pro, SD, mini SD, XD, San Disk, CD/DVD, CF, or a floppy disk into one of the machines an receive goodprints within the hour. Dont tell me that the little photo printing machine that we have is as quality as the 1 hour photo labs. Because they both look the same, there has to be a huge price difference between the home machine and the professional machines. I've attempted to persuade my family not to completely dump their 35mm cameras and the idea of biringing their camera into a photo lab to have the pictures printed, but they do not listen. I personally own a Vivitar camera that uses SD cards and the 1 hour lab produces good results. But their photo machine only takes memory stick, bummer!! Thanks, John |
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Since when is a college degree a guarantee of intelligence, and integrity?
Some of the most corrupt people in the world have college degrees! Some without even a high school diploma, could put them to shame. You crack me up! Bill Crocker "John" wrote in message news:1103778751.21a76ff06dd924f861a91fa012be5ac4@t eranews... Please I ask only those who have a college degree in a field relevent to this question or professional photographers answer. Sorry I have to be so strict, but I need advice from people who know what they are talking about. But if you know what your talking about and do not have a degree go ahead and answer, but cite your sources, thanks... Question Will a home photo printer produce the same long term results as the 1 hour photo lab? When I mean long term, I mean a photo lasting a number of years without fade. My family purchased a cute little photo printer to go with our Sony digital camera that is 5-6MP MP I believe. The pictures look just as good as a 35mm, but I wonder if they will last 5-10 years. On the other hand I can go to a photo lab and insert a Memory Stick, pro, SD, mini SD, XD, San Disk, CD/DVD, CF, or a floppy disk into one of the machines an receive goodprints within the hour. Dont tell me that the little photo printing machine that we have is as quality as the 1 hour photo labs. Because they both look the same, there has to be a huge price difference between the home machine and the professional machines. I've attempted to persuade my family not to completely dump their 35mm cameras and the idea of biringing their camera into a photo lab to have the pictures printed, but they do not listen. I personally own a Vivitar camera that uses SD cards and the 1 hour lab produces good results. But their photo machine only takes memory stick, bummer!! Thanks, John |
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Since when is a college degree a guarantee of intelligence, and integrity?
Some of the most corrupt people in the world have college degrees! Some without even a high school diploma, could put them to shame. You crack me up! Bill Crocker "John" wrote in message news:1103778751.21a76ff06dd924f861a91fa012be5ac4@t eranews... Please I ask only those who have a college degree in a field relevent to this question or professional photographers answer. Sorry I have to be so strict, but I need advice from people who know what they are talking about. But if you know what your talking about and do not have a degree go ahead and answer, but cite your sources, thanks... Question Will a home photo printer produce the same long term results as the 1 hour photo lab? When I mean long term, I mean a photo lasting a number of years without fade. My family purchased a cute little photo printer to go with our Sony digital camera that is 5-6MP MP I believe. The pictures look just as good as a 35mm, but I wonder if they will last 5-10 years. On the other hand I can go to a photo lab and insert a Memory Stick, pro, SD, mini SD, XD, San Disk, CD/DVD, CF, or a floppy disk into one of the machines an receive goodprints within the hour. Dont tell me that the little photo printing machine that we have is as quality as the 1 hour photo labs. Because they both look the same, there has to be a huge price difference between the home machine and the professional machines. I've attempted to persuade my family not to completely dump their 35mm cameras and the idea of biringing their camera into a photo lab to have the pictures printed, but they do not listen. I personally own a Vivitar camera that uses SD cards and the 1 hour lab produces good results. But their photo machine only takes memory stick, bummer!! Thanks, John |
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"Bill Crocker" wrote in message ... Since when is a college degree a guarantee of intelligence, and integrity? Some of the most corrupt people in the world have college degrees! Some without even a high school diploma, could put them to shame. You crack me up! Bill Crocker right...and like you need a degree to answer such an elementary question. He was so insulting that I won't answer it...let him Google! |
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"Bill Crocker" wrote in message ... Since when is a college degree a guarantee of intelligence, and integrity? Some of the most corrupt people in the world have college degrees! Some without even a high school diploma, could put them to shame. You crack me up! Bill Crocker right...and like you need a degree to answer such an elementary question. He was so insulting that I won't answer it...let him Google! |
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Bill Crocker wrote: Since when is a college degree a guarantee of intelligence, and integrity? Some of the most corrupt people in the world have college degrees! Some without even a high school diploma, could put them to shame. You crack me up! Bill Crocker Bill, I don't think any of us should answer his question, whether we meet his qualifications or not. He clearly doesn't hold a doctorate in English, nor a degree in journalism. He didn't even cite any sources for requiring an answer. Therefore, he's not qualified to ask. Ken |
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Bill Crocker wrote: Since when is a college degree a guarantee of intelligence, and integrity? Some of the most corrupt people in the world have college degrees! Some without even a high school diploma, could put them to shame. You crack me up! Bill Crocker Bill, I don't think any of us should answer his question, whether we meet his qualifications or not. He clearly doesn't hold a doctorate in English, nor a degree in journalism. He didn't even cite any sources for requiring an answer. Therefore, he's not qualified to ask. Ken |
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Kibo informs me that John stated that:
Please I ask only those who have a college degree in a field relevent to this question or professional photographers answer. Sorry I have to be so strict, but I need advice from people who know what they are talking about. But if you know what your talking about and do not have a degree go ahead and answer, but cite your sources, thanks... *snort* On Usenet? - Good luck! Question Will a home photo printer produce the same long term results as the 1 hour photo lab? When I mean long term, I mean a photo lasting a number of years without fade. My family purchased a cute little photo printer to go with our Sony digital camera that is 5-6MP MP I believe. The pictures look just as good as a 35mm, but I wonder if they will last 5-10 years. The short answer is 'no'. The dye+paper used in most inkjets has a short lifespan, even when protected from light & the atmosphere. If you want your prints to last more than a year or two, you need to print via conventional photo paper (ie; a pro lab), or at least use a high end pigment-based inkjet. On the other hand I can go to a photo lab and insert a Memory Stick, pro, SD, mini SD, XD, San Disk, CD/DVD, CF, or a floppy disk into one of the machines an receive goodprints within the hour. Dont tell me that the little photo printing machine that we have is as quality as the 1 hour photo labs. Because they both look the same, there has to be a huge price difference between the home machine and the professional machines. Most likely, yes. I could be wrong about this, but I suspect that most photo kiosks use dye-sub printers, rather than conventional (wet process) printing on true photographic paper, like 1 hour labs. Both of these technologies are different from home inkjets, BTW. I've attempted to persuade my family not to completely dump their 35mm cameras and the idea of biringing their camera into a photo lab to have the pictures printed, but they do not listen. I personally own a Vivitar camera that uses SD cards and the 1 hour lab produces good results. But their photo machine only takes memory stick, bummer!! That's pretty shortsighted of them. My local service station recently aquired a photo kiosk, & it takes CDROMs as well as a wide variety of memory cards. I find it extremely convenient (& cheap!) for traditional sized photos to give to relatives & friends. I was also very pleasantly surprised to find that the output quality is excellent for the price, & the machine doesn't screw around with the colour or tonal balance of my images. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^--------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Kibo informs me that John stated that:
Please I ask only those who have a college degree in a field relevent to this question or professional photographers answer. Sorry I have to be so strict, but I need advice from people who know what they are talking about. But if you know what your talking about and do not have a degree go ahead and answer, but cite your sources, thanks... *snort* On Usenet? - Good luck! Question Will a home photo printer produce the same long term results as the 1 hour photo lab? When I mean long term, I mean a photo lasting a number of years without fade. My family purchased a cute little photo printer to go with our Sony digital camera that is 5-6MP MP I believe. The pictures look just as good as a 35mm, but I wonder if they will last 5-10 years. The short answer is 'no'. The dye+paper used in most inkjets has a short lifespan, even when protected from light & the atmosphere. If you want your prints to last more than a year or two, you need to print via conventional photo paper (ie; a pro lab), or at least use a high end pigment-based inkjet. On the other hand I can go to a photo lab and insert a Memory Stick, pro, SD, mini SD, XD, San Disk, CD/DVD, CF, or a floppy disk into one of the machines an receive goodprints within the hour. Dont tell me that the little photo printing machine that we have is as quality as the 1 hour photo labs. Because they both look the same, there has to be a huge price difference between the home machine and the professional machines. Most likely, yes. I could be wrong about this, but I suspect that most photo kiosks use dye-sub printers, rather than conventional (wet process) printing on true photographic paper, like 1 hour labs. Both of these technologies are different from home inkjets, BTW. I've attempted to persuade my family not to completely dump their 35mm cameras and the idea of biringing their camera into a photo lab to have the pictures printed, but they do not listen. I personally own a Vivitar camera that uses SD cards and the 1 hour lab produces good results. But their photo machine only takes memory stick, bummer!! That's pretty shortsighted of them. My local service station recently aquired a photo kiosk, & it takes CDROMs as well as a wide variety of memory cards. I find it extremely convenient (& cheap!) for traditional sized photos to give to relatives & friends. I was also very pleasantly surprised to find that the output quality is excellent for the price, & the machine doesn't screw around with the colour or tonal balance of my images. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^--------------------------------------------------------------- |
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"John" wrote in message news:1103778751.21a76ff06dd924f861a91fa012be5ac4@t eranews... Please I ask only those who have a college degree in a field relevent to this question or professional photographers answer. Sorry I have to be so strict, but I need advice from people who know what they are talking about. But if you know what your talking about and do not have a degree go ahead and answer, but cite your sources, thanks... Question Will a home photo printer produce the same long term results as the 1 hour photo lab? When I mean long term, I mean a photo lasting a number of years without fade. My family purchased a cute little photo printer to go with our Sony digital camera that is 5-6MP MP I believe. The pictures look just as good as a 35mm, but I wonder if they will last 5-10 years. On the other hand I can go to a photo lab and insert a Memory Stick, pro, SD, mini SD, XD, San Disk, CD/DVD, CF, or a floppy disk into one of the machines an receive goodprints within the hour. Dont tell me that the little photo printing machine that we have is as quality as the 1 hour photo labs. Because they both look the same, there has to be a huge price difference between the home machine and the professional machines. I've attempted to persuade my family not to completely dump their 35mm cameras and the idea of biringing their camera into a photo lab to have the pictures printed, but they do not listen. I personally own a Vivitar camera that uses SD cards and the 1 hour lab produces good results. But their photo machine only takes memory stick, bummer!! Well - I'm not "qualified" to answer your question, however my sources include the management team of the world's third largest producer of digital photo labs.....and several years experience in the print & imaging marketplace. Anyway. There is a huge price difference between pro labs and your homeinkjet photo printer. Somewhere in the region of $50K vs $50 or so. That plus the fact that the majority of lab printers use a totally different process - basically your regular wet chemistry based photo process that you have been used to for years. In terms of stability of the output of the home photo printer, that will be down to the quality of ink and paper you use. Google on "archival photo printing" or similar. The consumer inkjet printers available today do a good job of printing photos. The main difference is price however. Both ink and paper are expensive - and even more so if you buy archive quality. The lab photo printers are designed to run 8-16 hours per day, 6 days per week and as such the consumables (paper and chemistry) come in bulk and are far lower cost. Your home printer on the other hand, is probably designed to make 20 photo quality prints per day and last for maybe 18 months. If I were you, I would try to convince my family to view the memory cards purely as "digital film" and not to change their approach to having the majority of photos printed at the lab. The only difference being that they can delete the rubbish ones first. If they buy into this, then there is little change in the way they have always taken photos. The main benefit is that they can also print at home anything they don't want to take to the lab, and manipulate images on the PC. Personally, I get 90% of my prints done at the local lab and use my inkjet for proofs and nirt work (need it right now). My wife was turned off by digital photography due to her perception that she wouldn't get so many physical prints to look at - however as soon as she started looking at the memory cards as film, the whole thing just clicked..... |
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