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Eclipse success
Well, I've made my debut as a digital-era photojournalist...
I photographed the beginning of the eclipse, downloaded the images, edited them, called the news desk of the Atlanta newspaper, got permission to e-mail the images to them, did so... and one is published in today's paper. You can see them at: http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/...ex.html#041027 I think that all of us could be contributing to local newspapers (if we want to) very easily because of the ease of e-mailing the pictures. -- Clear skies, Michael A. Covington Author, Astrophotography for the Amateur www.covingtoninnovations.com/astromenu.html |
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Michael A. Covington wrote:
Well, I've made my debut as a digital-era photojournalist... I photographed the beginning of the eclipse, downloaded the images, edited them, called the news desk of the Atlanta newspaper, got permission to e-mail the images to them, did so... and one is published in today's paper. You can see them at: http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/...ex.html#041027 I think that all of us could be contributing to local newspapers (if we want to) very easily because of the ease of e-mailing the pictures. Nice pictures. "I encourage other amateur astronomers to do this. It's one of the best ways to share your pictures with others." And to undermine the careers of serious, income-earning professional photographers, unless you were paid. Were you? How much? Did your contract with the newspaper require that you relinquish rights to the picture? Did the newspaper cut you out of income from future uses? I suppose you know that newspapers are among the greediest of rights-grabbers and photographer-devaluers. We should _not_ feed them, no matter how good it feels at the moment. It may be that the crest has passed and the slippery slope has control, but if you respect photography as a career, every little bit of friction can slow the decline... -- Frank ess |
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"Frank ess" wrote in message
... Michael A. Covington wrote: I think that all of us could be contributing to local newspapers (if we want to) very easily because of the ease of e-mailing the pictures. .... "I encourage other amateur astronomers to do this. It's one of the best ways to share your pictures with others." And to undermine the careers of serious, income-earning professional photographers, unless you were paid. Against a free market economy, are you? I made a deal that I thought was advantageous for me. People in numerous fields -- especially writers and computer programmers, of which I am one -- have learned that giving away a certain amount of work free helps to *promote*, not undermine, their careers. Besides, the amateur photographer who e-mails pictures to a newspaper could easily be *starting* a career, not undermining somebody else's. Or do you feel that nobody in the future should become a photographer, so that the old-timers can have a monopoly on all the work? Were you? How much? Did your contract with the newspaper require that you relinquish rights to the picture? Did the newspaper cut you out of income from future uses? The paper got nonexclusive rights to one rather mediocre picture. (I am well aware of rights issues. In fact at no point did I sign anything; I simply gave them permission, by e-mail, to print the picture as news.) Although not paid money, I was credited by name, and my book was mentioned. To me, that is a valuable indirect advertisement. Besides, the newspaper is part of the community, and I enjoy sharing things with my neighbors. I suppose you know that newspapers are among the greediest of rights-grabbers and photographer-devaluers. We should _not_ feed them, no matter how good it feels at the moment. It may be that the crest has passed and the slippery slope has control, but if you respect photography as a career, every little bit of friction can slow the decline... Ah. And we should abolish the World Wide Web, because that, too, is a way for people to share their pictures and writings with the public thereby "undermining" the careers of professionals? And abolish amateur astronomy, amateur woodworking, amateur basketball, etc., because all these things put "professionals" out of a job? I don't think so. -- Clear skies, Michael A. Covington Author, Astrophotography for the Amateur www.covingtoninnovations.com/astromenu.html |
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Apart from the point about the free market that I made in another message...
Note that I am not competing with the newspaper's staff. They don't have astronomical telescopes as far as I can determine. Note further that I often sell astronomical pictures commercially (for as much as $500 for one-time use), and judging the relatively limited commercial value of this particular picture, I thought it would be good PR to give it to them free and get some free publicity from it. Are you familiar with the concept of creating a market? Most local newspapers are not aware that pictures like this *can* be taken locally. By showing that it can be done, even if I don't get paid for a particular picture, I increase the demand for such pictures as a whole. -- Clear skies, Michael A. Covington Author, Astrophotography for the Amateur www.covingtoninnovations.com/astromenu.html |
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"Michael A. Covington" wrote in message
... Well, I've made my debut as a digital-era photojournalist... I photographed the beginning of the eclipse, downloaded the images, edited them, called the news desk of the Atlanta newspaper, got permission to e-mail the images to them, did so... and one is published in today's paper. You can see them at: http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/...ex.html#041027 I think that all of us could be contributing to local newspapers (if we want to) very easily because of the ease of e-mailing the pictures. Fantastic job! These are really nice shots. I was out there last night with my D70 and 70-200 VR and got mixed results that were somewhat mediocre. I shot a bunch of pictures through the beginning to full eclipse. I have yet to go through all of them and pick out the best ones. I wish I were prepared and had a telescope. Do you know if I can mount my D70 to the Celestron 5? Thanks. Rita |
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Michael A. Covington wrote:
"Frank ess" wrote in message ... Michael A. Covington wrote: I think that all of us could be contributing to local newspapers (if we want to) very easily because of the ease of e-mailing the pictures. ... "I encourage other amateur astronomers to do this. It's one of the best ways to share your pictures with others." And to undermine the careers of serious, income-earning professional photographers, unless you were paid. Against a free market economy, are you? I made a deal that I thought was advantageous for me. People in numerous fields -- especially writers and computer programmers, of which I am one -- have learned that giving away a certain amount of work free helps to *promote*, not undermine, their careers. Besides, the amateur photographer who e-mails pictures to a newspaper could easily be *starting* a career, not undermining somebody else's. Or do you feel that nobody in the future should become a photographer, so that the old-timers can have a monopoly on all the work? Were you? How much? Did your contract with the newspaper require that you relinquish rights to the picture? Did the newspaper cut you out of income from future uses? The paper got nonexclusive rights to one rather mediocre picture. (I am well aware of rights issues. In fact at no point did I sign anything; I simply gave them permission, by e-mail, to print the picture as news.) Although not paid money, I was credited by name, and my book was mentioned. To me, that is a valuable indirect advertisement. Besides, the newspaper is part of the community, and I enjoy sharing things with my neighbors. I suppose you know that newspapers are among the greediest of rights-grabbers and photographer-devaluers. We should _not_ feed them, no matter how good it feels at the moment. It may be that the crest has passed and the slippery slope has control, but if you respect photography as a career, every little bit of friction can slow the decline... Ah. And we should abolish the World Wide Web, because that, too, is a way for people to share their pictures and writings with the public thereby "undermining" the careers of professionals? And abolish amateur astronomy, amateur woodworking, amateur basketball, etc., because all these things put "professionals" out of a job? I don't think so. Michael A. Covington Author, Astrophotography for the Amateur www.covingtoninnovations.com/astromenu.html Well said Mike. But the subject Frank brought up is indeed a very complicated one, and a hellofa can of worms I might add.. No one should sell or otherwise trade a product is a manner that knowingly damages the economic well-being of those that have invested (I speak of individuals, not corporations or rapacious capitalists). Frank seems to have a 'thing' about newspapers and I would agree when it comes to the huge chain-type operations, not local community publications. I predict a long life for this thread (G). Regards. Ken. -- http://www.rupert.net/~solar Return address supplied by 'spammotel' http://www.spammotel.com |
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Ken Davey wrote:
Michael A. Covington wrote: "Frank ess" wrote in message ... Michael A. Covington wrote: I think that all of us could be contributing to local newspapers (if we want to) very easily because of the ease of e-mailing the pictures. ... "I encourage other amateur astronomers to do this. It's one of the best ways to share your pictures with others." And to undermine the careers of serious, income-earning professional photographers, unless you were paid. Against a free market economy, are you? I made a deal that I thought was advantageous for me. People in numerous fields -- especially writers and computer programmers, of which I am one -- have learned that giving away a certain amount of work free helps to *promote*, not undermine, their careers. Besides, the amateur photographer who e-mails pictures to a newspaper could easily be *starting* a career, not undermining somebody else's. Or do you feel that nobody in the future should become a photographer, so that the old-timers can have a monopoly on all the work? Were you? How much? Did your contract with the newspaper require that you relinquish rights to the picture? Did the newspaper cut you out of income from future uses? The paper got nonexclusive rights to one rather mediocre picture. (I am well aware of rights issues. In fact at no point did I sign anything; I simply gave them permission, by e-mail, to print the picture as news.) Although not paid money, I was credited by name, and my book was mentioned. To me, that is a valuable indirect advertisement. Besides, the newspaper is part of the community, and I enjoy sharing things with my neighbors. I suppose you know that newspapers are among the greediest of rights-grabbers and photographer-devaluers. We should _not_ feed them, no matter how good it feels at the moment. It may be that the crest has passed and the slippery slope has control, but if you respect photography as a career, every little bit of friction can slow the decline... Ah. And we should abolish the World Wide Web, because that, too, is a way for people to share their pictures and writings with the public thereby "undermining" the careers of professionals? And abolish amateur astronomy, amateur woodworking, amateur basketball, etc., because all these things put "professionals" out of a job? I don't think so. Michael A. Covington Author, Astrophotography for the Amateur www.covingtoninnovations.com/astromenu.html Well said Mike. But the subject Frank brought up is indeed a very complicated one, and a hellofa can of worms I might add.. No one should sell or otherwise trade a product is a manner that knowingly damages the economic well-being of those that have invested (I speak of individuals, not corporations or rapacious capitalists). Frank seems to have a 'thing' about newspapers and I would agree when it comes to the huge chain-type operations, not local community publications. I predict a long life for this thread (G). Regards. Ken. Thank you for your reply, Ken. I don't have a particular 'thing' about newspapers; just about organizations who squeeze every bit of juice from their employees, contractors, and freelancers and keep the profits from the changes. What they publish, more and more often, is mediocre pictures, many times freeze-frames from amateur video. The whole process is eroding the quality of their products. I'd like to see the decline halted, or at least retarded. Mike, it seems to me you lost track of what I said and asked in my message, and flailed around whipping up a suds storm of suppositions and extrapolations all your own. I say: people with respect for working photographers should _not_ give away their work. It hurts current and future career photographers. You say you received just compensation. Good for you. That's all you needed to say, but clearly not all you had to say. Fine. Just don't imagine any words, deeds, or actions into my posts. In the meantime, maybe someone will reconsider a 'donation' to one cause, and support another. -- Frank ess |
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This is a sensitive area Michael, and that photographers who work
professionally are under a huge pressure that the images they take are profitable. Newspapers have to sell newspapers. Whereas something like astronomy is not profitable - it's an amazing subject, but exisits "illegitimately". It's science, and needs as much information as possible from any source. It's not in newspaper's interests to accept work from amateurs - the media would break down. Photos could be digitally altered, if not be totally inferior! They need to be created by professionals. Photo-journalism is not something we want to die out. This message is no reflection on you Michael, so don't get upset! Love your web site by the way... keep it up, it's all excellent |
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Whereas something like astronomy is not profitable - it's an amazing
subject, but exisits "illegitimately". It's science, and needs as much information as possible from any source. I should just clarify this. IMHO it's a case of mankind with God-given intelligence trying to prove that God doesn't exist, and ultimately I don't think it'll work (no matter how smart we think we might be) =) |
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