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Val Hallah wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...asses-Sun.html Are the Daily Mail paying you or something? BugBear |
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On 20/10/2010 12:05, bugbear wrote:
Val Hallah wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...asses-Sun.html Are the Daily Mail paying you or something? I am no fan of the Daily Mail but these are rather good photos. Their photo editor does have an eye for this sort of thing. Regards, Martin Brown |
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:54:26 -0700 (PDT), Twibil
wrote: (C) Can you please find me one of those jobs where I get well paid for alerting people to something in which they're already interested and which costs them nothing? I need the work. Send applications to RichA, isn't that obvious? |
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"Bruce" wrote in message
... Are the Daily Mail paying you or something? (A) The Daily Mail is only one newspaper. Therefore it's "Is", rather than "Are". In British English, the plural is correct as the Daily Mail is treated as a company of many people. In American English, the singular is used because the Daily Mail is treated as one corporate entity. As Winston Churchill once said, the US and UK are two nations divided by a common language. He would know - his mother was American. Maybe due to evolution, in 500 years time it will be "iz d goog xpress payin ya or sumit?" Ever seen the movie "Idiocracy"? No offence to the poster, but it's an interesting concept nevertheless. |
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"Bruce" wrote in message
... (A) The Daily Mail is only one newspaper. Therefore it's "Is", rather than "Are". In British English, the plural is correct as the Daily Mail is treated as a company of many people. In American English, the singular is used because the Daily Mail is treated as one corporate entity. As Winston Churchill once said, the US and UK are two nations divided by a common language. He would know - his mother was American. Maybe due to evolution, in 500 years time it will be "iz d goog xpress payin ya or sumit?" Ever seen the movie "Idiocracy"? No offence to the poster, but it's an interesting concept nevertheless. I haven't seen it, but it's on my list of movies to see. You've not missed much as far as a movie worth watching. Makes you think though. |
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"Araan" wrote in message
... "Bruce" wrote in message ... (A) The Daily Mail is only one newspaper. Therefore it's "Is", rather than "Are". In British English, the plural is correct as the Daily Mail is treated as a company of many people. In American English, the singular is used because the Daily Mail is treated as one corporate entity. As Winston Churchill once said, the US and UK are two nations divided by a common language. He would know - his mother was American. Maybe due to evolution, in 500 years time it will be "iz d goog xpress payin ya or sumit?" Ever seen the movie "Idiocracy"? No offence to the poster, but it's an interesting concept nevertheless. I haven't seen it, but it's on my list of movies to see. You've not missed much as far as a movie worth watching. Makes you think though. Ironically, I think the dumb arses at the top of the chain are dumber than their workers. |
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In article , Bruce
writes Twibil wrote: On Oct 20, 4:05*am, bugbear wrote: Are the Daily Mail paying you or something? (A) The Daily Mail is only one newspaper. Therefore it's "Is", rather than "Are". In British English, the plural is correct as the Daily Mail is treated as a company of many people. In American English, the singular is used because the Daily Mail is treated as one corporate entity. It is urban myth that this is British v's American English. It is just good and bad English. When Lizzie Windsor talks about her Government she does so singularly. Similarly other corporations. eg. http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/spee...10/05/queens-s peech-2010-2-50580 "My Government will modernise the Royal Mail, in partnership with employees, and will ensure *it* benefits from private sector capital and disciplines." "Proposals will be brought forward for a reformed second House that *is* wholly or mainly elected on the basis of proportional representation." "My Government ... *is* committed to a referendum on additional powers for the National Assembly of Wales." "My Government *looks* forward to an enhanced partnership with India." "My Government *is* committed to spend nought point seven per cent of gross national income in development aid from 2013." However, note her use of the plural he "My Government will introduce legislation to ensure that in future this Parliament and the British people have *their* say on any proposed transfer of powers to the European Union." Because "the British people" are not a single entity. As Winston Churchill once said, the US and UK are two nations divided by a common language. He would know - his mother was American. TRUMPS! She would know better than Churchill - The Queen's English is Her language - and She is not American! ;-) -- Kennedy Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed; A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed. Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying) |
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On 10/20/10 PDT 11:54 AM, Twibil wrote:
On Oct 20, 4:05 am, wrote: Are the Daily Mail paying you or something? (A) The Daily Mail is only one newspaper. Therefore it's "Is", rather than "Are". Unless you're in the land of the Great Unwashed! (B) This is a photo/camera newsgroup. Posters can generally be assumed to be interested in unusual photographs. (C) Can you please find me one of those jobs where I get well paid for alerting people to something in which they're already interested and which costs them nothing? I need the work. What wages will you require? Have wheels and a valid d/l?? -- john mcwilliams |
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In article , shiva das
writes In article , Kennedy McEwen wrote: In article , Bruce writes Twibil wrote: On Oct 20, 4:05*am, bugbear wrote: Are the Daily Mail paying you or something? (A) The Daily Mail is only one newspaper. Therefore it's "Is", rather than "Are". In British English, the plural is correct as the Daily Mail is treated as a company of many people. In American English, the singular is used because the Daily Mail is treated as one corporate entity. It is urban myth that this is British v's American English. It is just good and bad English. Bollox, to borrow a word from across the pond. Far from an Urban Myth it is elementary linguistics: all languages change all the time, and logic and language are not necessarily friends. None of which I disagree with. There are many differences between US and UK English: most, but not all, of which have arisen for the reasons that you cite. However those reasons do not change the fact that this particular issue is, contrary to urban legend, not a differentiation between current US and UK forms of English, but between good and bad English; good and bad grammar to be precise. The example of the recent "Queen's Speech" clearly demonstrates that proper UK English follows precisely the same rules as those ascribed by urban mythology as unique to US English. There are plenty of older "Queen's Speeches" on the same site I linked to that demonstrate this is not a recent change of Her Majesty's language. For example, referring to a gaggle of geese, "gaggle" is the collective noun for a number of geese and addressed as singular whether in US or UK English: "There is a gaggle at the gate.". "Geese" is plurality of "goose" and addressed in both US and UK as plural: "The geese are in their shed"; whilst "goose" is singular and referred to as such: "Christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat.". That is why HM The Queen refers to "My Government" in the singular throughout all of her speeches: *it* is a single body; but refers to "The British people" as plural: "people" is a plurality of persons and British is merely a subset of that plurality, remaining plural. The same rules apply whether using correct US or UK English. Common misuse arises from ambiguities as to whether the subject is a collective noun or a plurality of singular nouns. eg. "Chelsea is playing away this weekend" is often used interchangeably with "Chelsea are playing away this weekend" - depending on whether one considers "Chelsea" to be the singular team or the plurality of Chelsea players. "The Daily Mail" is singular, whether in US or UK English, and only the great unwashed would refer to it as plural. I trust that you will write to Her Majesty and request that she correct the Americanisation of her own language that you accuse her, and her predecessors, of propagating - according to your urban mythology. -- Kennedy Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed; A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed. Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying) |
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On 10/20/2010 11:46 PM, shiva das wrote:
In , Kennedy wrote: In , Bruce writes wrote: On Oct 20, 4:05 am, wrote: Are the Daily Mail paying you or something? (A) The Daily Mail is only one newspaper. Therefore it's "Is", rather than "Are". In British English, the plural is correct as the Daily Mail is treated as a company of many people. In American English, the singular is used because the Daily Mail is treated as one corporate entity. It is urban myth that this is British v's American English. It is just good and bad English. Bollox, to borrow a word from across the pond. Far from an Urban Myth it is elementary linguistics: all languages change all the time, and logic and language are not necessarily friends. A double-negative in Russian and other Slavic languages is a more emphatic negative, not a positive as it is in English. Think of the fact that English speakers have been in North America for over 400 years, and that there was no rapid communications possible between North America and the British Isles for most of that period. Further, think about how many differences there are just within the British Isles -- besides regional accents there are true dialects and creoles in Scotland, Ireland, and Wales, and I'm not talking about the various Celtic languages, just English. Think of France and Haiti. Kriyol and French are mutually unintelligible. American English, British English, Australian and New Zealand English are technically variants of Modern English but it doesn't take long for usage to make it hard for one group to understand another. The only static languages are dead languages: Ancient Greek; Latin; Sanskrit; Aramaic; Classical Arabic. All living languages change all the time. Thank you. shiva das. This is a very well stated description of the development of languages. For a more entertaining, but less informative, description, see Shaw's "Pygmalion" or it's musical adaptation "My Fair Lady". Shaw was much, much more discerning about language variations than the "my way or the highway" crowd. Allen |
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