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Old July 13th 09, 09:40 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Alan Browne
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Default rec.photo.equipment.slr-systems - NG charter reminder


Recently many participants of these NGs have engaged the "P&S troll".
While the topic of P&S is acceptable in alt.phot and rec.photo.digital,
it is not acceptable in r.p.d.slr-systems.

From the slr-systems charter [extract]:

- - - QUOTE - - -
What Is Considered Off-Topic:

- Discussion of digital point-and-shoot, ZLR, rangefinder, or any other
non-SLR digital cameras

- Discussion of any cameras with non-detachable lenses

- - - /QUOTE - - -

Please remove the rec.photo.digital.slr-systems NG from the newsgroup
x-posts where P&S cameras are concerned.

Just trying to increase the signal/noise.

Cheers,
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Old July 13th 09, 09:49 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Alfred Molon[_4_]
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Default rec.photo.equipment.slr-systems - NG charter reminder

Why are you posting this to rec.photo.digital?
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Old July 13th 09, 10:05 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Charles E Hardwidge
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Default rec.photo.equipment.slr-systems - NG charter reminder

"Alan Browne" wrote in message
...

Recently many participants of these NGs have engaged the "P&S troll".
While the topic of P&S is acceptable in alt.phot and rec.photo.digital, it
is not acceptable in r.p.d.slr-systems.

From the slr-systems charter [extract]:

- - - QUOTE - - -
What Is Considered Off-Topic:

- Discussion of digital point-and-shoot, ZLR, rangefinder, or any other
non-SLR digital cameras

- Discussion of any cameras with non-detachable lenses

- - - /QUOTE - - -

Please remove the rec.photo.digital.slr-systems NG from the newsgroup
x-posts where P&S cameras are concerned.

Just trying to increase the signal/noise.


I'm only subscribed to alt.photography, don't want to subscribe to a lot of
newsgroups, and would miss the often informative comment which relates to
any camera regardless of type. Perhaps, people could just practice good
social hygiene and ignore the troll.


--
Charles E Hardwidge

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Old July 13th 09, 10:06 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Alan Browne
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Default rec.photo.equipment.slr-systems - NG charter reminder

Alfred Molon wrote:
Why are you posting this to rec.photo.digital?


Because x-posts can originate with people reading only those groups -
and this is what the P&S troll is counting on in his x-post list.


  #5  
Old July 13th 09, 10:09 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Alan Browne
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Default rec.photo.equipment.slr-systems - NG charter reminder

Charles E Hardwidge wrote:
"Alan Browne" wrote in message



Please remove the rec.photo.digital.slr-systems NG from the newsgroup
x-posts where P&S cameras are concerned.

Just trying to increase the signal/noise.


I'm only subscribed to alt.photography, don't want to subscribe to a lot of
newsgroups, and would miss the often informative comment which relates to
any camera regardless of type. Perhaps, people could just practice good
social hygiene and ignore the troll.


The hierarchy and charters are in place for a reason.

Such does not preclude discussing DSLR's on rpd or alt.p, but it does
preclude discussing P&S on the rpd.slr-systems NG.
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Old July 13th 09, 10:36 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Charles E Hardwidge
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Default rec.photo.equipment.slr-systems - NG charter reminder

"Alan Browne" wrote in message
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Charles E Hardwidge wrote:
"Alan Browne" wrote in message


Please remove the rec.photo.digital.slr-systems NG from the newsgroup
x-posts where P&S cameras are concerned.

Just trying to increase the signal/noise.


I'm only subscribed to alt.photography, don't want to subscribe to a lot
of newsgroups, and would miss the often informative comment which relates
to any camera regardless of type. Perhaps, people could just practice
good social hygiene and ignore the troll.


The hierarchy and charters are in place for a reason.

Such does not preclude discussing DSLR's on rpd or alt.p, but it does
preclude discussing P&S on the rpd.slr-systems NG.


Perhaps, but it looks a bit elitist. Most of the P&S and SLR specific
content I've seen percolating into alt.photography is, to be honest,
minimal. Maybe YOU should prune stuff from everywhere else if it's SLR
*specific* content, hmmm? That would only be fair instead of creating the
impression you want to have your cake and eat it.

Trolls just want to disrupt and divide. If people get sucked into arguments
and separate out into groups that just weakens the collective. The troll
will just have their ego boosted and go to town on the crumbs. Organisations
which go that way wind up bankrupt so lets not lose out heads. If people
ignore the trolling and stay reasonable the problem will diminish.

So, yes. Exercise some care where we post, and don't swallow the bait.

--
Charles E Hardwidge

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Old July 13th 09, 10:44 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Charles E Hardwidge
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Default rec.photo.equipment.slr-systems - NG charter reminder

"Alan Browne" wrote in message
...
Alfred Molon wrote:
Why are you posting this to rec.photo.digital?


Because x-posts can originate with people reading only those groups - and
this is what the P&S troll is counting on in his x-post list.


So you take down everyone else just to nuke one troll? That's exactly what
the troll wants. They're going to keep it up and insert cross-posts anyway
but if all the groups have a single and coherent vision of topicality and
social hygiene this situation could turn to our advantage.

And it was incredibly rude of you just to trim newsgroups without mentioning
it especially as you unilaterally started the topic by cross-posting. If I
hadn't caught that my contribution to this issue that you feel motivated
enough to raise would've been lost.

--
Charles E Hardwidge

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Old July 13th 09, 10:44 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Charles E Hardwidge
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Default rec.photo.equipment.slr-systems - NG charter reminder

"Alan Browne" wrote in message
...
Alfred Molon wrote:
Why are you posting this to rec.photo.digital?


Because x-posts can originate with people reading only those groups - and
this is what the P&S troll is counting on in his x-post list.


So you take down everyone else just to nuke one troll? That's exactly what
the troll wants. They're going to keep it up and insert cross-posts anyway
but if all the groups have a single and coherent vision of topicality and
social hygiene this situation could turn to our advantage.

And it was incredibly rude of you just to trim newsgroups without mentioning
it especially as you unilaterally started the topic by cross-posting. If I
hadn't caught that my contribution to this issue that you feel motivated
enough to raise would've been lost.

--
Charles E Hardwidge

  #9  
Old July 13th 09, 10:49 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Alan Browne
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Default rec.photo.equipment.slr-systems - NG charter reminder

Charles E Hardwidge wrote:
"Alan Browne" wrote in message
...
Charles E Hardwidge wrote:
"Alan Browne" wrote in message


Please remove the rec.photo.digital.slr-systems NG from the newsgroup
x-posts where P&S cameras are concerned.

Just trying to increase the signal/noise.

I'm only subscribed to alt.photography, don't want to subscribe to a lot
of newsgroups, and would miss the often informative comment which
relates
to any camera regardless of type. Perhaps, people could just practice
good social hygiene and ignore the troll.


The hierarchy and charters are in place for a reason.

Such does not preclude discussing DSLR's on rpd or alt.p, but it does
preclude discussing P&S on the rpd.slr-systems NG.


Perhaps, but it looks a bit elitist.


There are over 100,000 newsgroups. Perhaps all should all be x-posted
together to avoid any suggestion of elitism.
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Old July 13th 09, 10:52 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Alan Browne
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Default rec.photo.equipment.slr-systems - NG charter reminder

Charles E Hardwidge wrote:
"Alan Browne" wrote in message
...
Alfred Molon wrote:
Why are you posting this to rec.photo.digital?


Because x-posts can originate with people reading only those groups - and
this is what the P&S troll is counting on in his x-post list.


So you take down everyone else just to nuke one troll?


I'm not going to debate this with you.

I do suggest that the following might be enlightening.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/
 




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