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D70 on-camera sharpening vs. Photoshop sharpening
Hi folks,
I've had the D70 for a little while now, and I'm starting to explore more of the features. One of these is the "Sharper" setting in the "Optimize Image" menu. Before I launch into a mini-research project (ie. trial-and-error), is there any obvious reason why I would or wouldn't use this feature, as opposed to the shooting with the default settings and then using the "Sharpen" feature in Photoshop Elements? Thanks! J |
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"john" writes:
Before I launch into a mini-research project (ie. trial-and-error), is there any obvious reason why I would or wouldn't use this feature, as opposed to the shooting with the default settings and then using the "Sharpen" feature in Photoshop Elements? First, you probably shouldn't use Sharpen in Elements. Photoshop's Sharpen filter has a fixed effect, and it's not ideal for most circumstances. It's generally too extreme. You should be using Unsharp Mask instead. Unsharp Mask has 3 settings that control its operation, and it takes a bit of time to learn to use well, but with much more control you can get much better results. Having said that, you shouldn't use in-camera sharpening because 1) sharpening is usually best done *after* all other processing, not before 2) Unsharp Mask is better than any fixed sharpening scheme. Dave |
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D70 on-camera sharpening vs. Photoshop sharpening
Bill Hilton wrote:
From: "john" I've had the D70 for a little while now, and I'm starting to explore more of the features. One of these is the "Sharper" setting in the "Optimize Image" menu. Before I launch into a mini-research project (ie. trial-and-error), is there any obvious reason why I would or wouldn't use this feature, as opposed to the shooting with the default settings and then using the "Sharpen" feature in Photoshop Elements? Many experienced users prefer waiting to sharpen late in the flow because you need different amounts of sharpening depending on the output file size. That is, if you are resizing down for the web you want to do final sharpening after resizing, of if you have to resize up for printing large you would typically want to wait until you have the final size. If you are happy with the file size (ie pixel dimensions) it doesn't matter much, except of course if you've oversharpened in-camera you can't undo it. Not true on a D70 if you shoot NEF. You can remove the sharpening later if desired in Nikon Capture (and probably in PS too? I don't have a modern version of PS and haven't tried its NEF capabilities yet). I shoot NEF + JPG, with medium sharpening in-camera. For quick and dirty viewing and test (4x6) prints with no postprocessing, I use the JPG's. It's nice having them 'pre-sharpened' for evaluation. For keeper images, and especially those I will be making large prints from, I go into Nikon Capture with the NEF image file, remove the sharpening, and edit and tweak as appropriate. Then I sharpen as my last step, with Unsharp Mask. Just my 2 cents, B.A.S. P.S. This workflow may change if and when I ever get around to buying PS CS. |
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Bill Hilton wrote:
From: "john" I've had the D70 for a little while now, and I'm starting to explore more of the features. One of these is the "Sharper" setting in the "Optimize Image" menu. Before I launch into a mini-research project (ie. trial-and-error), is there any obvious reason why I would or wouldn't use this feature, as opposed to the shooting with the default settings and then using the "Sharpen" feature in Photoshop Elements? Many experienced users prefer waiting to sharpen late in the flow because you need different amounts of sharpening depending on the output file size. That is, if you are resizing down for the web you want to do final sharpening after resizing, of if you have to resize up for printing large you would typically want to wait until you have the final size. If you are happy with the file size (ie pixel dimensions) it doesn't matter much, except of course if you've oversharpened in-camera you can't undo it. Not true on a D70 if you shoot NEF. You can remove the sharpening later if desired in Nikon Capture (and probably in PS too? I don't have a modern version of PS and haven't tried its NEF capabilities yet). I shoot NEF + JPG, with medium sharpening in-camera. For quick and dirty viewing and test (4x6) prints with no postprocessing, I use the JPG's. It's nice having them 'pre-sharpened' for evaluation. For keeper images, and especially those I will be making large prints from, I go into Nikon Capture with the NEF image file, remove the sharpening, and edit and tweak as appropriate. Then I sharpen as my last step, with Unsharp Mask. Just my 2 cents, B.A.S. P.S. This workflow may change if and when I ever get around to buying PS CS. |
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Dave Martindale wrote:
you shouldn't use in-camera sharpening because 1) sharpening is usually best done *after* all other processing, not before 2) Unsharp Mask is better than any fixed sharpening scheme. I mostly agree, but there is one thing to be said for sharpening before JPEG encoding: it doesn't accentuate JPEG artefacts, which later sharpening does. Andrew. |
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Dave Martindale wrote:
you shouldn't use in-camera sharpening because 1) sharpening is usually best done *after* all other processing, not before 2) Unsharp Mask is better than any fixed sharpening scheme. I mostly agree, but there is one thing to be said for sharpening before JPEG encoding: it doesn't accentuate JPEG artefacts, which later sharpening does. Andrew. |
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