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  #21  
Old February 3rd 05, 09:33 AM
Ron Hunter
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John Ortt wrote:
"RustY©" wrote in message
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"John Ortt" wrote in message
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My fiancee and I are getting married later this year and my father wants
to rattle off some shots on our EOS 300D


Talk him out of it!! This can only end in tears, either for you or him.
Let him enjoy the day like a normal guest of honour.



It wasn't my decision, he wants to do it. I am sure my fiancee will step in
to ensure that the camera is put aside for all the shots he is supposed to
be in (she can be very firm when she wants to), but he thinks he will enjoy
the day more if he is allowed to do some photography.....


Sure, allow him (an anyone else) to take pictures, especially at any
reception/party after the wedding, but reserve the main shots for a pro.
After all, he should be IN many of those shots, and you will regret it
later if he is not.


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Old February 3rd 05, 10:27 AM
Joseph Meehan
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Ron Hunter wrote:
RustY© wrote:
"John Ortt" wrote in
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My fiancee and I are getting married later this year and my father
is keep to rattle off some shots on our EOS 300D



Talk him out of it!! This can only end in tears, either for you or
him. Let him enjoy the day like a normal guest of honour.


Indeed, let him enjoy the ocassion! Hire some bad tempered,
obnoxious, and expensive professional. You will get better pictures,
and if you hate HIM after the ceremony, there is no harm done.


Ron, read the thread. He is hiring a professional.

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26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math


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Old February 3rd 05, 10:30 AM
Joseph Meehan
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RustY© wrote:
"John Ortt" wrote in
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My fiancee and I are getting married later this year and my father
is keep to rattle off some shots on our EOS 300D


Talk him out of it!! This can only end in tears, either for you or
him. Let him enjoy the day like a normal guest of honour.


I disagree. While it can be overdone, it does not sound like that will
happen here. The father enjoys photography and appears to do well. Telling
him he should not do what he likes and can do well would detract from the
day not add to it. Photography is a part of many people, a part that fits
into events like weddings. To deny that is artificial and would detract from
the event.

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Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math


  #24  
Old February 3rd 05, 10:30 AM
Joseph Meehan
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RustY© wrote:
"John Ortt" wrote in
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My fiancee and I are getting married later this year and my father
is keep to rattle off some shots on our EOS 300D


Talk him out of it!! This can only end in tears, either for you or
him. Let him enjoy the day like a normal guest of honour.


I disagree. While it can be overdone, it does not sound like that will
happen here. The father enjoys photography and appears to do well. Telling
him he should not do what he likes and can do well would detract from the
day not add to it. Photography is a part of many people, a part that fits
into events like weddings. To deny that is artificial and would detract from
the event.

--
Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math


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Old February 3rd 05, 10:57 AM
Dennis Bradley
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"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
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RustY© wrote:
"John Ortt" wrote in
message ...
My fiancee and I are getting married later this year and my father
is keep to rattle off some shots on our EOS 300D


Talk him out of it!! This can only end in tears, either for you or
him. Let him enjoy the day like a normal guest of honour.


I disagree. While it can be overdone, it does not sound like that will
happen here. The father enjoys photography and appears to do well.
Telling him he should not do what he likes and can do well would detract
from the day not add to it. Photography is a part of many people, a part
that fits into events like weddings. To deny that is artificial and would
detract from the event.

--
Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math

Some people do not feel very comfortable at such family festivities and my
opinion below is based on personal experience.
Perhaps Dad will feel that he can attend the event and be happy as long as
he can have the camera as an excuse to wander among the other guests,
chatting here and there, and breaking off when required to go take some more
pictures. Let Dad do his thing and be happy to have him share in your
special day. You have the professional photographer there for the official
shots, so nothing is lost as long as Dad does not step on his toes.

Best wishes to you and your fiancé, and of course Dad !

Dennis


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Old February 3rd 05, 10:57 AM
Dennis Bradley
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"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
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RustY© wrote:
"John Ortt" wrote in
message ...
My fiancee and I are getting married later this year and my father
is keep to rattle off some shots on our EOS 300D


Talk him out of it!! This can only end in tears, either for you or
him. Let him enjoy the day like a normal guest of honour.


I disagree. While it can be overdone, it does not sound like that will
happen here. The father enjoys photography and appears to do well.
Telling him he should not do what he likes and can do well would detract
from the day not add to it. Photography is a part of many people, a part
that fits into events like weddings. To deny that is artificial and would
detract from the event.

--
Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math

Some people do not feel very comfortable at such family festivities and my
opinion below is based on personal experience.
Perhaps Dad will feel that he can attend the event and be happy as long as
he can have the camera as an excuse to wander among the other guests,
chatting here and there, and breaking off when required to go take some more
pictures. Let Dad do his thing and be happy to have him share in your
special day. You have the professional photographer there for the official
shots, so nothing is lost as long as Dad does not step on his toes.

Best wishes to you and your fiancé, and of course Dad !

Dennis


  #27  
Old February 3rd 05, 11:07 AM
DJ
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:23:46 -0000, "John Ortt"
wrote:

My fiancee and I are getting married later this year and my father is keep
to rattle off some shots on our EOS 300D

Can anybody give any advice on how to achieve the best shots at a wedding
(or point to any sites which can).

Info such as lens choice and settings would be very useful.

He will probrably be standing next to a pro photographer anyway so the
setting and lighting should be fairly good..

Which reminds me.......We also need to find a pro photographer in the Cavan
area of Ireland.....any recommendations?


I have been official photographer at a couple of weddings recently and I've also
been informally taking pictures at a couple. In the latter case I've kept *well*
out of the pro's way and concentrated on stuff he wasn't and couldn't be doing.
In each case the bridal couple have loved my pictures, because they have a
different slant and complement the pro's. Why stand next to the pro and steal
the results of his work in setting up shots?

In a non-official capacity I do candids, whacky angles, pics of the photographer
taking pics and so on. As it happens I use a 300D. I also have an EF 50mm/1.8
lens, and love cranking up to ISO1600 and getting candids of the dancers, the
band, drunken louts at the tables, 8 year old daughters dancing with Auntie
Edna, whatever. Then I might revert to a clip-on flash (420EX) bounced off the
ceiling for some "insurance" shots of the reception guests. Official
photographers often do not cover the reception, so an "unofficial" coverage may
be the only one.

Also, rember rule number 1: Practice beforehand.
  #28  
Old February 3rd 05, 11:07 AM
DJ
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:23:46 -0000, "John Ortt"
wrote:

My fiancee and I are getting married later this year and my father is keep
to rattle off some shots on our EOS 300D

Can anybody give any advice on how to achieve the best shots at a wedding
(or point to any sites which can).

Info such as lens choice and settings would be very useful.

He will probrably be standing next to a pro photographer anyway so the
setting and lighting should be fairly good..

Which reminds me.......We also need to find a pro photographer in the Cavan
area of Ireland.....any recommendations?


I have been official photographer at a couple of weddings recently and I've also
been informally taking pictures at a couple. In the latter case I've kept *well*
out of the pro's way and concentrated on stuff he wasn't and couldn't be doing.
In each case the bridal couple have loved my pictures, because they have a
different slant and complement the pro's. Why stand next to the pro and steal
the results of his work in setting up shots?

In a non-official capacity I do candids, whacky angles, pics of the photographer
taking pics and so on. As it happens I use a 300D. I also have an EF 50mm/1.8
lens, and love cranking up to ISO1600 and getting candids of the dancers, the
band, drunken louts at the tables, 8 year old daughters dancing with Auntie
Edna, whatever. Then I might revert to a clip-on flash (420EX) bounced off the
ceiling for some "insurance" shots of the reception guests. Official
photographers often do not cover the reception, so an "unofficial" coverage may
be the only one.

Also, rember rule number 1: Practice beforehand.
  #29  
Old February 3rd 05, 12:25 PM
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John Ortt wrote:
My fiancee and I are getting married later this year and my father is keep
to rattle off some shots on our EOS 300D


Can anybody give any advice on how to achieve the best shots at a wedding
(or point to any sites which can).


I'm finding the replies to this thread interesting, and perhaps rather
surprising. When my wife and I decided to get married, we decided very
quickly that there was no way we were going to have a professional
photographer present. Photographers dominate the post-wedding
activities, even to the extent of trying to choreograph such activities
as throwing confetti and greeting the bride and groom. In my
experience this is an intolerable intrusion.

Instead, we asked all the guests to take photographs and let us have
sets. Also, we gave every child a disposable camera and asked them to
take photographs of whatever they liked. The children were delighted,
and the results were most worthwhile.

So, instead of posed group photographs, we have lots of pictures of
people having fun.

Andrew.
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Old February 3rd 05, 12:25 PM
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John Ortt wrote:
My fiancee and I are getting married later this year and my father is keep
to rattle off some shots on our EOS 300D


Can anybody give any advice on how to achieve the best shots at a wedding
(or point to any sites which can).


I'm finding the replies to this thread interesting, and perhaps rather
surprising. When my wife and I decided to get married, we decided very
quickly that there was no way we were going to have a professional
photographer present. Photographers dominate the post-wedding
activities, even to the extent of trying to choreograph such activities
as throwing confetti and greeting the bride and groom. In my
experience this is an intolerable intrusion.

Instead, we asked all the guests to take photographs and let us have
sets. Also, we gave every child a disposable camera and asked them to
take photographs of whatever they liked. The children were delighted,
and the results were most worthwhile.

So, instead of posed group photographs, we have lots of pictures of
people having fun.

Andrew.
 




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