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  #11  
Old October 2nd 04, 03:40 AM
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Don't forget. Leisure suits cause cancer. Ya just can't be too careful
these days !!!


F I Nishing wrote:

Your phone COULD ignite the fumes at the petrol station, no doubt on
that one.
I don't know a lot about mold, but it doesn't sound ideal.
Lead paint is very dangerous and COULD certainly harm, if not kill, you.
There is no question that asbestos can cause serious lung problems.
No bull ****. Research your facts before moaning.

Fi.


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Old October 2nd 04, 04:25 AM
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"Douglas W. Hoyt" wrote in message
...
Today we were going to take pictures of our grandchild at a school
award program , and we were informed that some new rules are in

effect
and NO pictures could be taken at any school functions anymore,

unless
we had permission from all the other parents.


It is a growing trend, and it is grows from two prime concerns:

* Some children have had legal or custodial parents/guardians specify

that
all images and data be restricted from public access--all parents (in the
U.S. to start) have this option, and they specify their prefences on a
data-release waiver form--the most pertinent rationale being that some
children are being sheltered from non-custodial parents who might learn
where to find them; although this is an extceedingly spurious

possibility,
parents have the right to demand that their children be protected from

this
very rare possibility;

* Some cultures and/or religions do not condone the appearance of their
children (or adults, for that matter) in any kind of celebratory or
performance-related way.

There are other concerns about school district liability in the case of
images that become public without parental authorization (and other
fine-points of liability concern that may be an over-reaction), but the
whole matter is such a sticky wicket (and school districts are so eager to
avoid any lawsuits or other legal ramifications) that it is simpler,

simply,
to forbid it.




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Old October 2nd 04, 05:18 AM
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On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 20:39:33 +0100, F I Nishing
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Jerry wrote:
Today we were going to take pictures of our grandchild at a school award
program , and we were informed that some new rules are in effect and NO
pictures could be taken at any school functions anymore, unless we had
permission from all the other parents. Some pictures was going to be taken
in his classroom, but not now. It looks like Homeland security has taken
things way too far as all the so called rule makers are going crazy. It
seems like stupid ideas gets out of hand and snowballs.
Lets see, if you take a picture of a scenic Downtown area, you are
questioned as if you were a terrorist, if you take any pictures around or
inside a school, your a pervert. If this keeps going someday you will need
papers to walk down the street, Freedom gone.

I can understand all of that. There are a great many pervs about.


So the entire nation is to be considered a bunch of pervs???
Go out and purchase a sense of perspective.


People go crazy on rumors, and they go overboard on them. Cell Phones will
cause a GAS Station to blow up, Black mold is going to kill you, Lead paint
inside of some 50 plus year old houses is going to kill you. Asbestos in 40
plus old Schools is going to kill all the kids.
All a bunch of Bull ****.


Your phone COULD ignite the fumes at the petrol station, no doubt on
that one.


Total horse**** -- read up on it before shooting from the lip.

I don't know a lot about mold, but it doesn't sound ideal.
Lead paint is very dangerous and COULD certainly harm, if not kill, you.


If you like to eat the walls, sure.

There is no question that asbestos can cause serious lung problems.
No bull ****. Research your facts before moaning.


It was hard enough for asbestos workers in daily contact with
large volumes of the dust to make their claim. Yes, it was dangerous
for them at those levels and they should be compensated for their
resulting health problems. If your total exposure consists of walking
by a little of the stuff, you're not going to keel over from it.

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Old October 2nd 04, 05:25 AM
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On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 20:12:24 GMT, "Dave"
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Maybe there is something to this...

I live in the UK, a guest American here, you might say. In the musical
recitals here, it is custom to NOT make videotapes or use still cameras
during the performances. If you want a tape, you hope the teacher is going
to make one by having someone come in, and you can buy a copy. Reason -
because they have over the years found it (all the cameras) distracting to
the people watching the performance, maybe to the performers, too.



Come on -- this is a school recital, not the London Symphony
at $250 a seat. The attendees are mostly parents and other relatives.
It's expected that everyone will want their own ideal picture of their
kids in action. Personally, in such an environment, I'd not like to be
told I should worry that the other parents around me are pervs. Nopr
should they think that I am.


"Jerry" wrote in message
news:Aug7d.157412$D%.128010@attbi_s51...
Today we were going to take pictures of our grandchild at a school award
program , and we were informed that some new rules are in effect and NO
pictures could be taken at any school functions anymore, unless we had
permission from all the other parents. Some pictures was going to be taken
in his classroom, but not now. It looks like Homeland security has taken
things way too far as all the so called rule makers are going crazy. It
seems like stupid ideas gets out of hand and snowballs.
Lets see, if you take a picture of a scenic Downtown area, you are
questioned as if you were a terrorist, if you take any pictures around or
inside a school, your a pervert. If this keeps going someday you will need
papers to walk down the street, Freedom gone.

People go crazy on rumors, and they go overboard on them. Cell Phones will
cause a GAS Station to blow up, Black mold is going to kill you, Lead
paint
inside of some 50 plus year old houses is going to kill you. Asbestos in
40
plus old Schools is going to kill all the kids.
All a bunch of Bull ****.




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Old October 2nd 04, 05:25 AM
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On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 20:12:24 GMT, "Dave"
wrote:

Maybe there is something to this...

I live in the UK, a guest American here, you might say. In the musical
recitals here, it is custom to NOT make videotapes or use still cameras
during the performances. If you want a tape, you hope the teacher is going
to make one by having someone come in, and you can buy a copy. Reason -
because they have over the years found it (all the cameras) distracting to
the people watching the performance, maybe to the performers, too.



Come on -- this is a school recital, not the London Symphony
at $250 a seat. The attendees are mostly parents and other relatives.
It's expected that everyone will want their own ideal picture of their
kids in action. Personally, in such an environment, I'd not like to be
told I should worry that the other parents around me are pervs. Nopr
should they think that I am.


"Jerry" wrote in message
news:Aug7d.157412$D%.128010@attbi_s51...
Today we were going to take pictures of our grandchild at a school award
program , and we were informed that some new rules are in effect and NO
pictures could be taken at any school functions anymore, unless we had
permission from all the other parents. Some pictures was going to be taken
in his classroom, but not now. It looks like Homeland security has taken
things way too far as all the so called rule makers are going crazy. It
seems like stupid ideas gets out of hand and snowballs.
Lets see, if you take a picture of a scenic Downtown area, you are
questioned as if you were a terrorist, if you take any pictures around or
inside a school, your a pervert. If this keeps going someday you will need
papers to walk down the street, Freedom gone.

People go crazy on rumors, and they go overboard on them. Cell Phones will
cause a GAS Station to blow up, Black mold is going to kill you, Lead
paint
inside of some 50 plus year old houses is going to kill you. Asbestos in
40
plus old Schools is going to kill all the kids.
All a bunch of Bull ****.




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Old October 2nd 04, 09:02 AM
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Today we were going to take pictures of our grandchild at a school award
program , and we were informed that some new rules are in effect and NO
pictures could be taken at any school functions anymore, unless we had
permission from all the other parents. Some pictures was going to be taken
in his classroom, but not now. It looks like Homeland security has taken
things way too far as all the so called rule makers are going crazy. It
seems like stupid ideas gets out of hand and snowballs.
Lets see, if you take a picture of a scenic Downtown area, you are
questioned as if you were a terrorist, if you take any pictures around or
inside a school, your a pervert. If this keeps going someday you will need
papers to walk down the street, Freedom gone.


actually a photographer could use this to their advantage. Find parents to
announce to the other parents that you will shooting and making the images
available.


People go crazy on rumors, and they go overboard on them. Cell Phones will
cause a GAS Station to blow up, Black mold is going to kill you, Lead

paint
inside of some 50 plus year old houses is going to kill you. Asbestos in

40
plus old Schools is going to kill all the kids.
All a bunch of Bull ****.


Lead paint is a serious problem, it was basically a bucket of powered lead
suspended in the oil, it dried and left a coating of metal behind, you rub
your hands on the window sill, kids do so more so, put their mouth on the
edge, get a small but significant dose. But the cell phone thing didn't
work, but they haven't banned them either.


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Old October 2nd 04, 09:02 AM
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Today we were going to take pictures of our grandchild at a school award
program , and we were informed that some new rules are in effect and NO
pictures could be taken at any school functions anymore, unless we had
permission from all the other parents. Some pictures was going to be taken
in his classroom, but not now. It looks like Homeland security has taken
things way too far as all the so called rule makers are going crazy. It
seems like stupid ideas gets out of hand and snowballs.
Lets see, if you take a picture of a scenic Downtown area, you are
questioned as if you were a terrorist, if you take any pictures around or
inside a school, your a pervert. If this keeps going someday you will need
papers to walk down the street, Freedom gone.


actually a photographer could use this to their advantage. Find parents to
announce to the other parents that you will shooting and making the images
available.


People go crazy on rumors, and they go overboard on them. Cell Phones will
cause a GAS Station to blow up, Black mold is going to kill you, Lead

paint
inside of some 50 plus year old houses is going to kill you. Asbestos in

40
plus old Schools is going to kill all the kids.
All a bunch of Bull ****.


Lead paint is a serious problem, it was basically a bucket of powered lead
suspended in the oil, it dried and left a coating of metal behind, you rub
your hands on the window sill, kids do so more so, put their mouth on the
edge, get a small but significant dose. But the cell phone thing didn't
work, but they haven't banned them either.


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Old October 2nd 04, 09:31 AM
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Zeitgeist responds:

Lead paint is a serious problem, it was basically a bucket of powered lead
suspended in the oil, it dried and left a coating of metal behind, you rub
your hands on the window sill, kids do so more so, put their mouth on the
edge, get a small but significant dose.


Lead paint WAS a modest problem. There are trace amounts of lead left in the
paint when it dries, and kids CHEW on the damned windowsills to get a dose that
affects them, and is nearly harmless to adults. Adults usually picked i tup in
the workplace, maybe making the paint, or welding, or in similar ways.

Lead paint was banned in '78, but still remains on many old structures. Some
paint removal methods can create a health hazard and pass the hazard on to
other areas (windblown paint dust).

Be glad you're not an ancient Roman: their aqueducts fed into lead piping. In
fact, much plumbingware was lead or lead line until fairly recently in history.


Charlie Self
"Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles."
Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
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Old October 2nd 04, 12:49 PM
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Stick to Macro Photography because the
insects and flowers wont call the
police.


"Jerry" wrote in
message
news:Aug7d.157412$D%.128010@attbi_s51...
Today we were going to take pictures

of our grandchild at a school award
program , and we were informed that

some new rules are in effect and NO
pictures could be taken at any school

functions anymore, unless we had
permission from all the other parents.

Some pictures was going to be taken
in his classroom, but not now. It

looks like Homeland security has taken
things way too far as all the so

called rule makers are going crazy. It
seems like stupid ideas gets out of

hand and snowballs.
Lets see, if you take a picture of a

scenic Downtown area, you are
questioned as if you were a terrorist,

if you take any pictures around or
inside a school, your a pervert. If

this keeps going someday you will need
papers to walk down the street,

Freedom gone.

People go crazy on rumors, and they go

overboard on them. Cell Phones will
cause a GAS Station to blow up, Black

mold is going to kill you, Lead paint
inside of some 50 plus year old houses

is going to kill you. Asbestos in 40
plus old Schools is going to kill all

the kids.
All a bunch of Bull ****.




  #20  
Old October 2nd 04, 01:03 PM
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YoYo writes:

Stick to Macro Photography because the
insects and flowers wont call the
police.


No, but the neighbors might if they see you in the yard hunched over the
begonias, with tripod, camera, remote release and all kinds of reflector cards.

Charlie Self
"Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles."
Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
 




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