Adobe Grrr

On 8/12/2014 10:45 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-08-13 02:01:32 +0000, PeterN said:

On 8/12/2014 9:56 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-08-13 01:40:50 +0000, PeterN said:

On 8/12/2014 7:52 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-08-12 23:23:57 +0000, PeterN said:

On 8/12/2014 2:27 AM, PeterN wrote:
ccI have a photography subscription to CC. When I tried to
download a
brush from the CC market I was told that market items are only
available to paid subscribers, and was asked if I want to upgrade.
Isn't
a photography subscription a paid subscription. I posed the
question on
the contact Adobe live chat, but was told it was a technical
problem.
Has anyone else had that experience?

TIA


I found the answer to my question.
The brushes in Adobe Market are not available to photography
subscribers. If I paid more money and actually upgraded my
subscription, I would have complete access.

That doesn't make sense. If you click on that upgrade now it takes
you
to the subscribe page where the first option is the $9.99/month
Photography Program.
I didn't call Adobe today, I will tomorrow.

I browsed through the assets and found nothing there to make it woth
purchasing an upgrade.
Others may find it worth it, but I do not.

In the "Add Ons" page there are pay & free extensions and stuff and I
have got a few things there.


I saw one brush I wanted to try.

From the Adobe FAQ website on the subject.

"Why don't photography plan customers get access to Creative Cloud
Market?


Creative Cloud Market is a new benefit that has been added to certain
paid Creative Cloud plans, and is not included in the entitlements for
photography plan customers. Some Creative Cloud services, such a
Creative Cloud Market, TypeKit, and ProSite are only available to
Single App or Complete Creative Cloud plans. To download and use
Creative Cloud Market content, upgrade to either Creative Cloud Single
App or Complete plans."

https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/help/market.html

Well there is the answer. The problem is, if you click on that upgrade
button the first choice they give you is the Photography plan with no
disclaimer that it isn;t eligible.

For now I will just browse through what is available via Add-Ons.


Me too, but only if it's something I think I will use.
I have a problem though, with the lack of disclosure and just emailed
Adobe telling them about my displeasure.

I agree, they kept that part of the package vague, and one is left
wondering why.

I have picked up some stuff such as some free textures just so i can
make this sort of fix to Jonas's blown highlight photo. ;-)
https://db.tt/FT3Yns5j


Nice adjustment. I would have toned down the foreground highlights. To
me, they detract from a neat image.

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PeterN

On 8/12/2014 2:27 AM, PeterN wrote:
ccI have a photography subscription to CC. When I tried to download a
brush from the CC market I was told that market items are only
available to paid subscribers, and was asked if I want to upgrade. Isn't
a photography subscription a paid subscription. I posed the question on
the contact Adobe live chat, but was told it was a technical problem.
Has anyone else had that experience?

TIA

PeterN:

You screwed up your cross post list, so responses
to this thread show up twice in "rec.photo.digital"

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Later...
Ron C
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On 8/13/2014 1:48 PM, Ron C wrote:
On 8/12/2014 2:27 AM, PeterN wrote:
ccI have a photography subscription to CC. When I tried to download a
brush from the CC market I was told that market items are only
available to paid subscribers, and was asked if I want to upgrade. Isn't
a photography subscription a paid subscription. I posed the question on
the contact Adobe live chat, but was told it was a technical problem.
Has anyone else had that experience?

TIA

PeterN:

You screwed up your cross post list, so responses
to this thread show up twice in "rec.photo.digital"

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Later...
Ron C
--

I never noticed two postings in rec.photo.digital. I guess thunderbird
took care of my mistake.


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PeterN

On 2014-08-13 17:48:33 +0000, Ron C said:

On 8/12/2014 2:27 AM, PeterN wrote:
ccI have a photography subscription to CC. When I tried to download a
brush from the CC market I was told that market items are only
available to paid subscribers, and was asked if I want to upgrade. Isn't
a photography subscription a paid subscription. I posed the question on
the contact Adobe live chat, but was told it was a technical problem.
Has anyone else had that experience?

TIA

PeterN:

You screwed up your cross post list, so responses
to this thread show up twice in "rec.photo.digital"

That is odd, as no duplicates have appeared in my Usenet client,
Unison. That is regardless of the additional rec.photo.digital.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...enshot_843.jpg


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Regards,

Savageduck

On 8/13/2014 2:08 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 8/13/2014 1:48 PM, Ron C wrote:
On 8/12/2014 2:27 AM, PeterN wrote:
ccI have a photography subscription to CC. When I tried to download a
brush from the CC market I was told that market items are only
available to paid subscribers, and was asked if I want to upgrade. Isn't
a photography subscription a paid subscription. I posed the question on
the contact Adobe live chat, but was told it was a technical problem.
Has anyone else had that experience?

TIA

PeterN:

You screwed up your cross post list, so responses
to this thread show up twice in "rec.photo.digital"

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Later...
Ron C
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I never noticed two postings in rec.photo.digital. I guess thunderbird
took care of my mistake.


Hmm, don't know why you're not seeing an echo. I'm running
thunderbird and have been seeing the echo. Odd.

[Note: only sending this comment to rec.photo.digital ]
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Later...
Ron C
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:27:44 -0400, PeterN wrote:
: ccI have a photography subscription to CC. When I tried to download
: a brush from the CC market I was told that market items are only
: available to paid subscribers, and was asked if I want to upgrade.
: Isn't a photography subscription a paid subscription. I posed the
: question on the contact Adobe live chat, but was told it was a
: technical problem. Has anyone else had that experience?
:
: TIA


And the surprise is ????? Surely we all knew that this was the
intended/inevitable consequence of the PS move to the "cloud".

Bob

On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:27:44 -0400, PeterN wrote:
: ccI have a photography subscription to CC. When I tried to download
: a brush from the CC market I was told that market items are only
: available to paid subscribers, and was asked if I want to upgrade.
: Isn't a photography subscription a paid subscription. I posed the
: question on the contact Adobe live chat, but was told it was a
: technical problem. Has anyone else had that experience?
:
: TIA


And the surprise is ????? Surely we all knew that this was the
intended/inevitable consequence of the PS move to the "cloud".

Bob

On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:52:06 -0400, John A. wrote:
: On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:27:44 -0400, PeterN wrote:
:
: ccI have a photography subscription to CC. When I tried to download a
: brush from the CC market I was told that market items are only
: available to paid subscribers, and was asked if I want to upgrade. Isn't
: a photography subscription a paid subscription. I posed the question on
: the contact Adobe live chat, but was told it was a technical problem.
: Has anyone else had that experience?
:
: TIA
:
: No help; just a kvetch.
:
: I just don't get why so much that shouldn't be is being shoved into
: the "cloud".

You don't? Seriously? You must be either blind, deaf, or not a resident of the
United States. The answer is Capitalist GREED. Nothing more, nothing less.

: Hard drives are dirt cheap per MB, and it really only makes sense to put
: things online if you need to access them elsewhere.

Wait until you have to rent HDs instead of buying them. I'm old enough to
remember when IBM had a hammer lock on computer equipment, and you had to rent
EVERYTHING. The Government eventually quashed that, but that was before the
Era of the Republican Party. Back we're going to go, and probably at
breathtaking speed.

: Okay, I get that there's a romanticization of it this early on, and a
: business (profiteering) case for making software subscription-based,
: but I think things will eventually settle into place, and that
: software vendors will find better ways to enforce subscriptions, like
: say having it "phone home" periodically (not every use) to make sure
: the subscription is still good and assume it is good unless the
: connection fails X times in a row (to prevent lock-in-by-user-firewall
: but not interrupt use during a network outage.)

Of course they'll get better at it, but the problem is that the subscription
model favors the 1%. (Actually, make that the .01%, because that's where we're
headed.

Bob

On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:52:06 -0400, John A. wrote:
: On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:27:44 -0400, PeterN wrote:
:
: ccI have a photography subscription to CC. When I tried to download a
: brush from the CC market I was told that market items are only
: available to paid subscribers, and was asked if I want to upgrade. Isn't
: a photography subscription a paid subscription. I posed the question on
: the contact Adobe live chat, but was told it was a technical problem.
: Has anyone else had that experience?
:
: TIA
:
: No help; just a kvetch.
:
: I just don't get why so much that shouldn't be is being shoved into
: the "cloud".

You don't? Seriously? You must be either blind, deaf, or not a resident of the
United States. The answer is Capitalist GREED. Nothing more, nothing less.

: Hard drives are dirt cheap per MB, and it really only makes sense to put
: things online if you need to access them elsewhere.

Wait until you have to rent HDs instead of buying them. I'm old enough to
remember when IBM had a hammer lock on computer equipment, and you had to rent
EVERYTHING. The Government eventually quashed that, but that was before the
Era of the Republican Party. Back we're going to go, and probably at
breathtaking speed.

: Okay, I get that there's a romanticization of it this early on, and a
: business (profiteering) case for making software subscription-based,
: but I think things will eventually settle into place, and that
: software vendors will find better ways to enforce subscriptions, like
: say having it "phone home" periodically (not every use) to make sure
: the subscription is still good and assume it is good unless the
: connection fails X times in a row (to prevent lock-in-by-user-firewall
: but not interrupt use during a network outage.)

Of course they'll get better at it, but the problem is that the subscription
model favors the 1%. (Actually, make that the .01%, because that's where we're
headed.

Bob

On 8/14/2014 9:06 PM, Robert Coe wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:27:44 -0400, PeterN wrote:
: ccI have a photography subscription to CC. When I tried to download
: a brush from the CC market I was told that market items are only
: available to paid subscribers, and was asked if I want to upgrade.
: Isn't a photography subscription a paid subscription. I posed the
: question on the contact Adobe live chat, but was told it was a
: technical problem. Has anyone else had that experience?
:
: TIA


And the surprise is ????? Surely we all knew that this was the
intended/inevitable consequence of the PS move to the "cloud".

Bob


The only surprise is the failure to disclose up front.

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PeterN