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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:55:57 GMT, "Chef!" wrote: Thanks for the feedback guys. First of all, I thought that Nikon was renowned for its optics, no? From the replies it seems that Canon has the edge for it's lenses. Both have excellent Optics but like I said I give the edge to Canon but not by a wide margin. Personal Opinion here not quantitative measurements. Secondly having spoken to a camera shop sales advisor(?), he thinks that the Canon reproduces better 'fleshtones' than the Nikon, so I hopped over to the DBase.com for a few samples and I thought the Nikon had a more natural tonal appearance. Probably what will swing it -apart from good optics- is the ability to light up and shoot straight away with minimal lag. I will be -hoping- to shoot a great amount in b&w, will they all do more or less the same thing or are there other factors affecting the results as to what harware is used? Thanks. "Chef!" wrote in message Chef either will do nicely for B & W provided you do a bit of editing in Photo shop. I do have a minor beef with my Rebel in that it is slow to turn on, but it is a minor annoyance to me. Used both Nikon and Canon and like them both. Best advice is Try them and see what YOU like. Dave ... Hi All, I am considering buying a digital SLR and have seen the majority of users favoring the Nikon D70 and the Canon EOS300D -these also fall within the constraints of my budget. Having looked at photo samples of each, they seem pretty similar in photo quality, but any users want to share the ups and (if any) downs with either of the cameras and in particular usability and scope for more adventurous/artistic type photography. The Canon would have the advantage of me being able to use my lense from my 35mm EOS 600, but then again I've always wanted to own a Nikon. Your views please. |
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Hi All, I am considering buying a digital SLR and have seen the majority of users favoring the Nikon D70 and the Canon EOS300D -these also fall within the constraints of my budget. Having looked at photo samples of each, they seem pretty similar in photo quality, but any users want to share the ups and (if any) downs with either of the cameras and in particular usability and scope for more adventurous/artistic type photography. The Canon would have the advantage of me being able to use my lense from my 35mm EOS 600, but then again I've always wanted to own a Nikon. Your views please. I just bought a D70. My decision was mainly based on a review I read at http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d70.htm#top, but then, also, I have an F801 and a Zoom that might fit on the D70 (I hope). Me, I'm a Nikon fan. |
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The D10 should be down in price now and would be a better choice than either
of those cameras. Nikon is living on reputation these days aalthough the D70 is probably the first good camera they have produced since the N80. I'd stick with Canon for better glass at a lower price and teh assurance you won't ever have to deal with Nikon Repair. -- http://www.chapelhillnoir.com home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto The Improved Links Pages are at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html "Chef!" wrote in message ... Hi All, I am considering buying a digital SLR and have seen the majority of users favoring the Nikon D70 and the Canon EOS300D -these also fall within the constraints of my budget. Having looked at photo samples of each, they seem pretty similar in photo quality, but any users want to share the ups and (if any) downs with either of the cameras and in particular usability and scope for more adventurous/artistic type photography. The Canon would have the advantage of me being able to use my lense from my 35mm EOS 600, but then again I've always wanted to own a Nikon. Your views please. |
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The D10 should be down in price now and would be a better choice than either
of those cameras. Nikon is living on reputation these days aalthough the D70 is probably the first good camera they have produced since the N80. I'd stick with Canon for better glass at a lower price and teh assurance you won't ever have to deal with Nikon Repair. -- http://www.chapelhillnoir.com home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto The Improved Links Pages are at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html "Chef!" wrote in message ... Hi All, I am considering buying a digital SLR and have seen the majority of users favoring the Nikon D70 and the Canon EOS300D -these also fall within the constraints of my budget. Having looked at photo samples of each, they seem pretty similar in photo quality, but any users want to share the ups and (if any) downs with either of the cameras and in particular usability and scope for more adventurous/artistic type photography. The Canon would have the advantage of me being able to use my lense from my 35mm EOS 600, but then again I've always wanted to own a Nikon. Your views please. |
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It is more than the actual optics which are probably about equal. Canon has
the better motors and more IS lenses, and the mount is better allowing for better autofocus. Nikon has saddled themselves with a 45 year old mount far too late in the game. -- http://www.chapelhillnoir.com home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto The Improved Links Pages are at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html "Chef!" wrote in message ... Thanks for the feedback guys. First of all, I thought that Nikon was renowned for its optics, no? From the replies it seems that Canon has the edge for it's lenses. Secondly having spoken to a camera shop sales advisor(?), he thinks that the Canon reproduces better 'fleshtones' than the Nikon, so I hopped over to the DBase.com for a few samples and I thought the Nikon had a more natural tonal appearance. Probably what will swing it -apart from good optics- is the ability to light up and shoot straight away with minimal lag. I will be -hoping- to shoot a great amount in b&w, will they all do more or less the same thing or are there other factors affecting the results as to what harware is used? Thanks. "Chef!" wrote in message ... Hi All, I am considering buying a digital SLR and have seen the majority of users favoring the Nikon D70 and the Canon EOS300D -these also fall within the constraints of my budget. Having looked at photo samples of each, they seem pretty similar in photo quality, but any users want to share the ups and (if any) downs with either of the cameras and in particular usability and scope for more adventurous/artistic type photography. The Canon would have the advantage of me being able to use my lense from my 35mm EOS 600, but then again I've always wanted to own a Nikon. Your views please. |
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It is more than the actual optics which are probably about equal. Canon has
the better motors and more IS lenses, and the mount is better allowing for better autofocus. Nikon has saddled themselves with a 45 year old mount far too late in the game. -- http://www.chapelhillnoir.com home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto The Improved Links Pages are at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html "Chef!" wrote in message ... Thanks for the feedback guys. First of all, I thought that Nikon was renowned for its optics, no? From the replies it seems that Canon has the edge for it's lenses. Secondly having spoken to a camera shop sales advisor(?), he thinks that the Canon reproduces better 'fleshtones' than the Nikon, so I hopped over to the DBase.com for a few samples and I thought the Nikon had a more natural tonal appearance. Probably what will swing it -apart from good optics- is the ability to light up and shoot straight away with minimal lag. I will be -hoping- to shoot a great amount in b&w, will they all do more or less the same thing or are there other factors affecting the results as to what harware is used? Thanks. "Chef!" wrote in message ... Hi All, I am considering buying a digital SLR and have seen the majority of users favoring the Nikon D70 and the Canon EOS300D -these also fall within the constraints of my budget. Having looked at photo samples of each, they seem pretty similar in photo quality, but any users want to share the ups and (if any) downs with either of the cameras and in particular usability and scope for more adventurous/artistic type photography. The Canon would have the advantage of me being able to use my lense from my 35mm EOS 600, but then again I've always wanted to own a Nikon. Your views please. |
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Chef! wrote:
Secondly having spoken to a camera shop sales advisor(?), he thinks that the Canon reproduces better 'fleshtones' than the Nikon, so I hopped over to the DBase.com for a few samples and I thought the Nikon had a more natural tonal appearance. Don't knock yourself out looking for image quality differences between these cameras. They'll both make great pictures. The D70 is a better camera. Aside from the feature differences, it is much faster in operation. Unless you're a sports shooter, you won't be waiting for the camera. The 300D is not as expensive. And if you don't need to buy any lenses for it, then it's even less expensive. If you don't have any good Canon lenses, just ordinary ones, then now is time time to think about replacing them, though. When you buy good lenses, you'll have them a lot longer than you will have whatever camera you choose. Probably what will swing it -apart from good optics- is the ability to light up and shoot straight away with minimal lag. Well, the D70 can do that -- the lag is very nearly nonexistent. As a rough by-ear estimate I'd say it's in the area of a tenth of a second from power-on to ready-to-shoot (hold down the shutter release while powering on the camera and that's about how long it takes between moving the power switch and the shutter firing), and you don't have to wait after taking a shot before it can take another one unless you fill the buffer. I will be -hoping- to shoot a great amount in b&w, will they all do more or less the same thing or are there other factors affecting the results as to what harware is used? It doesn't sound like you have a great pre-existing preference for the way either brand of camera works. So, try them out and go with what works for you. You'll get great results from either camera. I prefer the Nikon "feel", myself, but that's nothing more than personal preference. -- Jeremy | |
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Chef! wrote:
Secondly having spoken to a camera shop sales advisor(?), he thinks that the Canon reproduces better 'fleshtones' than the Nikon, so I hopped over to the DBase.com for a few samples and I thought the Nikon had a more natural tonal appearance. Don't knock yourself out looking for image quality differences between these cameras. They'll both make great pictures. The D70 is a better camera. Aside from the feature differences, it is much faster in operation. Unless you're a sports shooter, you won't be waiting for the camera. The 300D is not as expensive. And if you don't need to buy any lenses for it, then it's even less expensive. If you don't have any good Canon lenses, just ordinary ones, then now is time time to think about replacing them, though. When you buy good lenses, you'll have them a lot longer than you will have whatever camera you choose. Probably what will swing it -apart from good optics- is the ability to light up and shoot straight away with minimal lag. Well, the D70 can do that -- the lag is very nearly nonexistent. As a rough by-ear estimate I'd say it's in the area of a tenth of a second from power-on to ready-to-shoot (hold down the shutter release while powering on the camera and that's about how long it takes between moving the power switch and the shutter firing), and you don't have to wait after taking a shot before it can take another one unless you fill the buffer. I will be -hoping- to shoot a great amount in b&w, will they all do more or less the same thing or are there other factors affecting the results as to what harware is used? It doesn't sound like you have a great pre-existing preference for the way either brand of camera works. So, try them out and go with what works for you. You'll get great results from either camera. I prefer the Nikon "feel", myself, but that's nothing more than personal preference. -- Jeremy | |
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The D70 FEELS like a camera.
The Canon feels like a cheap toy. |
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The D70 FEELS like a camera.
The Canon feels like a cheap toy. |
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