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Canon Digital EOS Rebel Pros and Cons
"Christina S Cericola" wrote in message
My question is: Does anyone have experience with the Canon Digital EOS Rebel , What did you like about it and what didn't you like about it.? I read about the differences between it and the 10D. I just wanted some feed back Like: - Cheapest DSLR in Canon EOS line. - Smallest and lightest DSLR in Canon EOS line. - Uses the simpler and cheaper RS-60E3 trigger remote. - Can use the same battery grip as the D30/D60/10D - has infrared remote capability with RC-1 or RC-5 - huge user base Don't Like: - Too much automation, not enough manual control - Camera selects the focus mode based on expert system - Metering mode based on expert system - No flash compensation - No secondary command dial. - Shooting mode dial on the right side. - user base at the lower end of photography spectrum Chieh -- Camera Hacker - http://www.CameraHacker.com/ |
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Giorgio Preddio wrote: "Christina S Cericola" wrote in message sgroups.com... To: Fellow Photographers and Photography enthusiasts, I have searched rec,photo,digital and did not find what I was Looking for. My question is: Does anyone have experience with the Canon Digital EOS Rebel , What did you like about it and what didn't you like about it.? I read about the differences between it and the 10D. I just wanted some feed back from people that actually shot with it. Thanks in advance for everyone's help. I always can count on this newsgroup for help. :-) I can't think of any pros, but here are some of the cons: 1) ****-quality plastic build Actually a placstic exterior on a Magnesium frame. 2) Metering/exposure problems Not really 3) Focus problems Nope. 4) Poor effective resolution Better than the 3 mp Sigmas 5) Horrible software True -- but who uses the stuff than comes with the camera anyway? 6) Battery consumption is ridiculouly bad 500-600 shots on a very small battery (vs. the 4 NiMH used by a Sigma): Excellent! 7) Must use tripod or IS lenses to prevent camera shake (unlike Sigma SD* cameras which have camera-shake elimination built into the body) No one else knows of this secret built-in feature -- including Sigma. I've not used a tripod with my 300D in 8 months of heavy use. 8) Will be obsolete in a few years Canon has been making SLRs for years and now is the leader in dSLRs. Sigma is the cul-de-sac. Likely they will license their Foveon technology to someone who can use it to build a real camera. 9) Too much noise I regularly shoot at ISO 400 and get good results at 800 and 1600, too. Reviews say the Sigma cannot make it even to ISO 400 without being noisy. 10) Uses old sensor technolgy - records image pixels in monochrome instead of color like the Sigma SD* cameras which use the Foveon sensor See 8) above. Look into the Sigma SD10. This is the best digital SLR you can buy. Well, the reviewers (all of them) say otherwise. Phil |
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1) ****-quality plastic build
Actually a placstic exterior on a Magnesium frame. 2) Metering/exposure problems Not really 3) Focus problems Nope. Well, yes, but only with my Sigma lens (100-300mm F4.5 - 6.7 DL) ! ( really !.. any takers ? ). 4) Poor effective resolution Better than the 3 mp Sigmas 5) Horrible software True -- but who uses the stuff than comes with the camera anyway? Actually, I do ( use that photostitching programme that came with it - only to edit it afterwards in CS or PSP, and the file viewer to download the pics form my CF card into my computer..). Does the job fast and good enough for me 6) Battery consumption is ridiculouly bad 500-600 shots on a very small battery (vs. the 4 NiMH used by a Sigma): Excellent! 7) Must use tripod or IS lenses to prevent camera shake (unlike Sigma SD* cameras which have camera-shake elimination built into the body) 8) Will be obsolete in a few years Obsolete how ? I agree that in a few years there will probably digital SLR with different and better specs, but does that mean you suddenly can't take good pictures with the "old" one ? 9) Too much noise I regularly shoot at ISO 400 and get good results at 800 and 1600, too. Reviews say the Sigma cannot make it even to ISO 400 without being noisy. 10) Uses old sensor technolgy - records image pixels in monochrome instead of color like the Sigma SD* cameras which use the Foveon sensor |
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Chieh Cheng wrote: "Christina S Cericola" wrote in message My question is: Does anyone have experience with the Canon Digital EOS Rebel , What did you like about it and what didn't you like about it.? I read about the differences between it and the 10D. I just wanted some feed back Like: - Cheapest DSLR in Canon EOS line. - Smallest and lightest DSLR in Canon EOS line. - Uses the simpler and cheaper RS-60E3 trigger remote. - Can use the same battery grip as the D30/D60/10D - has infrared remote capability with RC-1 or RC-5 - huge user base Don't Like: - Too much automation, not enough manual control - Camera selects the focus mode based on expert system - Metering mode based on expert system - No flash compensation Re the above: There is a third-party hack to fix most of the above. - No secondary command dial. - Shooting mode dial on the right side. - user base at the lower end of photography spectrum Sshhh -- you just insulted a lot of "lower end" users, like myself :-) Now I will have to upgrade! Phil |
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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:30:28 +0100, "Canongirly" wrote:
7) Must use tripod or IS lenses to prevent camera shake (unlike Sigma SD* cameras which have camera-shake elimination built into the body) Whoopee for Sigma, I use a monopod or tripod anyway depending on what I'm shooting. It's not a 'Whoopee for Sigma" because the SD* have no such function. Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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I would like to see a comparison of the Digital Rebel and the Nikon D70
John "Phil Wheeler" wrote in message ... Giorgio Preddio wrote: "Christina S Cericola" wrote in message sgroups.com... To: Fellow Photographers and Photography enthusiasts, I have searched rec,photo,digital and did not find what I was Looking for. My question is: Does anyone have experience with the Canon Digital EOS Rebel , What did you like about it and what didn't you like about it.? I read about the differences between it and the 10D. I just wanted some feed back from people that actually shot with it. Thanks in advance for everyone's help. I always can count on this newsgroup for help. :-) I can't think of any pros, but here are some of the cons: 1) ****-quality plastic build Actually a placstic exterior on a Magnesium frame. 2) Metering/exposure problems Not really 3) Focus problems Nope. 4) Poor effective resolution Better than the 3 mp Sigmas 5) Horrible software True -- but who uses the stuff than comes with the camera anyway? 6) Battery consumption is ridiculouly bad 500-600 shots on a very small battery (vs. the 4 NiMH used by a Sigma): Excellent! 7) Must use tripod or IS lenses to prevent camera shake (unlike Sigma SD* cameras which have camera-shake elimination built into the body) No one else knows of this secret built-in feature -- including Sigma. I've not used a tripod with my 300D in 8 months of heavy use. 8) Will be obsolete in a few years Canon has been making SLRs for years and now is the leader in dSLRs. Sigma is the cul-de-sac. Likely they will license their Foveon technology to someone who can use it to build a real camera. 9) Too much noise I regularly shoot at ISO 400 and get good results at 800 and 1600, too. Reviews say the Sigma cannot make it even to ISO 400 without being noisy. 10) Uses old sensor technolgy - records image pixels in monochrome instead of color like the Sigma SD* cameras which use the Foveon sensor See 8) above. Look into the Sigma SD10. This is the best digital SLR you can buy. Well, the reviewers (all of them) say otherwise. Phil |
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Giorgio Preddio wrote:
I can't think of any pros, but here are some of the cons: 1) ****-quality plastic build True. Be however aware that the plastic outer shell is only part of the story. The whole construction is of lesser quality. The film based EOS 3 also has a plastic outer shell, but that plastic and all inner and outer details are of a much higher quality. I recommend the 10D over the 300D/D-Rebel without hesitation if money is an object and the buyer is not willing to go up to the 1D II. The Nikon D70 is also a better choice than the Digital Rebel when it comes to construction. 2) Metering/exposure problems False. 3) Focus problems False. The camera focuses well. 4) Poor effective resolution False. The resolution is quite good. 5) Horrible software False. The RAW converter is good. 6) Battery consumption is ridiculouly bad False. This is one of the camera's strongest points. 7) Must use tripod or IS lenses to prevent camera shake (unlike Sigma SD* cameras which have camera-shake elimination built into the body) I agree that due to the light plastic body, this camera is more prone to shake than it should be. 8) Will be obsolete in a few years False. As long as it is working, no camera will be worse than it was at the time of purchase. The build quality is a limitation, though. 9) Too much noise Manifestly false. The Canon DSLR's are at the top in their respective classes with respect to noise. 10) Uses old sensor technolgy - records image pixels in monochrome instead of color like the Sigma SD* cameras which use the Foveon sensor False. Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway |
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Canon Digital EOS Rebel Pros and Cons
John wrote: I would like to see a comparison of the Digital Rebel and the Nikon D70 Check the reviews at dpreview. They may even have some direct image comparisons (BTW -- 10D and 300D images are pretty much the same with appropriate camera settings). I think you can also do a feature comparison at one of the pages there -- not sure. D70 has more features -- closer to the 10D. 300D firmware has been hacked to give similar functionality, and that hacked firmware is in wide use (though I have yet to need its added functionality). But at the end of the day it seems to be all about lenses. dSLR bodies will evolve over the next few years. But I will still be able to use the lenses I have now as I go to a better body --- IF I stay with Canon. In fact one EF USM lens I use with my 300D is 13 years old and works fine! Overall, I prefer the Canon lens selection to that of Nikon -- but others may differ. Phil |
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John wrote:
I would like to see a comparison of the Digital Rebel and the Nikon D70 This should do it" http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sidebyside.asp You can stack in several more cameras to compare at the same time if you wish. John McWilliams |
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