No more Contax...

"Brian C. Baird" wrote in message
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In article .com,
says...
A neighbor shoots weddings on Contax 645 ...
He also was looking forard to a digital back for it...

The Phase One digital backs (16 and 22 Mpixels) both fit the Contax 645
and give wonderful results, but are pretty pricey.

You can buy two decent cars or a sizable portion of a house with what
they cost.

Here in California, you can only buy about a square foot of a house for that $$...
-And I'm only SORT of joking.

I pity anyone who tries to move here...

In article 4IRVd.149204$0u.83759@fed1read04, "Mark=B2" mjmorgan(lowest=
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even number says...
You can buy two decent cars or a sizable portion of a house with what
they cost.
=20
Here in California, you can only buy about a square foot of a house for t=
hat $$...
-And I'm only SORT of joking.

I pity anyone who tries to move here...=20
=20
It's about the same here (DC suburbs). Our house has more than doubled=20
in value over 5 years. I'm just waiting for the crash...
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"Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message
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"Brian C. Baird" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
says...
A neighbor shoots weddings on Contax 645 ...
He also was looking forard to a digital back for it...

The Phase One digital backs (16 and 22 Mpixels) both fit the Contax 645
and give wonderful results, but are pretty pricey.

You can buy two decent cars or a sizable portion of a house with what
they cost.

Here in California, you can only buy about a square foot of a house for
that $$...
-And I'm only SORT of joking.

I pity anyone who tries to move here...

Yeah, but going the other way is great....After 40 years of scrubbing floors
and living in a hovel in California, I retired to Oregon and here they call
me, "King William", and I live in a palace with 13 serving wenches......

Mark² wrote:


"Stacey" wrote in message
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TAFKAB wrote:


"Roland Karlsson" wrote in message

Contax was one of the finest film SLR you could get.
Extremely good lenses and mechanical build.

The passing of the 645 system, with it's Zeiss lenses, is a real shame.
I can't imagine what all those Contax users will do now,

Maybe take pictures with them instead of obsessing about buying the
newest latest greatest equipment to brag about owning?

Who are you talking to, Stacey?

TAFKAB?

You really seem to have an inferiority complex--and I mean that sincerely.
Why do you immediately jump to these sorts of statement all the time???
First it's Canon, and now Contax.

??? I said "Maybe they'll go out and take pictures with them"???


What happened to you?
Why are you so bitter?
What gave you the idea that Contax users are buy-the-latest-thing people?

??? Reread what I wrote or maybe you misunderstood, I meant to say the EXACT
opposite!

My impression is that this is RARELY the case with Contax shooters.



Exactly, this guy was acting like just because the company goes out of
bussiness, all these contax users are screwed. I doubt many will even care.
I know if mamiya etc went out of bussiness, I sure wouldn't be upset. Sorry
if it came off the other way...

BTW I have NOTHING again canon products (I own 2 of their printers..), it's
the people who use them and their attitude that get's to me.
--

Stacey

"Stacey" wrote in message ...
Mark² wrote:


"Stacey" wrote in message
...
TAFKAB wrote:


"Roland Karlsson" wrote in message

Contax was one of the finest film SLR you could get.
Extremely good lenses and mechanical build.

The passing of the 645 system, with it's Zeiss lenses, is a real shame.
I can't imagine what all those Contax users will do now,

Maybe take pictures with them instead of obsessing about buying the
newest latest greatest equipment to brag about owning?

Who are you talking to, Stacey?

TAFKAB?

You really seem to have an inferiority complex--and I mean that sincerely.
Why do you immediately jump to these sorts of statement all the time???
First it's Canon, and now Contax.

??? I said "Maybe they'll go out and take pictures with them"???


What happened to you?
Why are you so bitter?
What gave you the idea that Contax users are buy-the-latest-thing people?

??? Reread what I wrote or maybe you misunderstood, I meant to say the EXACT
opposite!

My impression is that this is RARELY the case with Contax shooters.



Exactly, this guy was acting like just because the company goes out of
bussiness, all these contax users are screwed. I doubt many will even care.
I know if mamiya etc went out of bussiness, I sure wouldn't be upset. Sorry
if it came off the other way...

BTW I have NOTHING again canon products (I own 2 of their printers..), it's
the people who use them and their attitude that get's to me.

I think it's time you examined your own attitude.
By your generalizations and logic, that would mean that YOU have that same attitude--since
you are a Canon user.
Do you now see why you shouldn't throw such sweeping statements around?
This is my problem with your many similar posts here.
You seem to blindly make pronouncements about the users of a specific brand.
Idiots abound, and they are not exclusive to any particular brand or type of camera.
There are plenty of snobs to go 'round.
There are some VERY fine photographers who use Canon.
There are some VERY fine photographers who use Nikon and others.

I think part of the "chatter" issue is that Canon has been truly innovative over the last
number of years (fully electric mount...three generations of IS lenses...DO lenses...first
top-notch implementation of CMOS...developer of their own sensors/chips...etc. etc.).
This pattern of innovation means that there is more to talk about in terms of the
geek-factor (techno stuff). Does this mean that Canon shooters are full of crap
somehow--simply because there are a number of aspects to Canon which are exclusive to that
brand?
I don't think so.
It simply means that there are some interesting aspects of the technology to discuss.
Nikon has followed Canon with IS, and is increasingly following Canon with fully
electronic mounts.
Nikon and Canon are both world-class manufacturers.

You also need to understand that Canon is wildly out-selling Nikon in the point-and-shoot
digital market...and also the DSLR market.
This logically leads to more posts from Canon users than Nikon/Pentax/Konica-Minolta.

"William Graham" wrote in message
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"Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message
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"Brian C. Baird" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
says...
A neighbor shoots weddings on Contax 645 ...
He also was looking forard to a digital back for it...

The Phase One digital backs (16 and 22 Mpixels) both fit the Contax 645
and give wonderful results, but are pretty pricey.

You can buy two decent cars or a sizable portion of a house with what
they cost.

Here in California, you can only buy about a square foot of a house for that $$...
-And I'm only SORT of joking.

I pity anyone who tries to move here...

Yeah, but going the other way is great....After 40 years of scrubbing floors and living
in a hovel in California, I retired to Oregon and here they call me, "King William", and
I live in a palace with 13 serving wenches......

Woo-hoo!! Retirement...here I come!

Very true, William. -Heck, you're only barely joking too!
We bought our house about 2 1/2 years ago.
In that time, it's value has increased about $300,000.
Ridiculous.
If we tried to buy it today, based on our current income, we couldn't afford it.

"Tony" wrote in message
. com...
I think Olympus is one of the more successful P&S manufacturers. They
will probably be out of the DSLR business as soon as they can dump the
remaining stock, but will "pretend" it is still a going concern they way
they did with the OM system for a few years after they had stopped making
them.

They have decent market share, around 11%, but it's falling. I expect that
they'll end up merging their digital camera business with another
low-market-share manufacturer, just like Konica-Minolta. It's hard to be a
survivor in a commodity market, with no higher-end products. Too bad they
got into the 4:3 mess. Pentax and Konica-Minolta look like they may make a
go of it in the consumer D-SLRs.

"Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message
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"Brian C. Baird" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
says...
A neighbor shoots weddings on Contax 645 ...
He also was looking forard to a digital back for it...

The Phase One digital backs (16 and 22 Mpixels) both fit the Contax 645
and give wonderful results, but are pretty pricey.

You can buy two decent cars or a sizable portion of a house with what
they cost.

Here in California, you can only buy about a square foot of a house for
that $$...
-And I'm only SORT of joking.

I pity anyone who tries to move here...

You beat me to that one.

Here's a nice 2/1:
http://www.mlslistings.com/common/pr...p?open=0&page=
11&mls_number=416615&type=property&name= for only $988,888. Note that this
is not a house that is being sold to live in, it's a tear-down, so plan on
another $250-300K to actually build a house.

Mark² wrote:


"Stacey" wrote in message
My impression is that this is RARELY the case with Contax shooters.



Exactly, this guy was acting like just because the company goes out of
bussiness, all these contax users are screwed. I doubt many will even
care. I know if mamiya etc went out of bussiness, I sure wouldn't be
upset. Sorry if it came off the other way...

BTW I have NOTHING again canon products (I own 2 of their printers..),
it's the people who use them and their attitude that get's to me.

I think it's time you examined your own attitude.

Really now. I explained my post WASN'T what you got your panties in a wad
about, apologised if you misunderstood what I meant yet you're still going
on about this?

By your generalizations and logic, that would mean that YOU have that same
attitude--since you are a Canon user.

Nope, only the ones who BASH anything that isn't made by their favorite
company. Do you see me posting that I think Epson printers are crap?
Or that canon cameras are useless garbage? =That= is the difference. God
forbid that I looked at a canon dSLR and then bought something else?


Do you now see why you shouldn't throw such sweeping statements around?

Not sweeping, if the shoe fits.. Did you miss "And their attitude"? If this
-my camera can kick you camera's butt- attitude is missing, canon users are
like anyone else.

This is my problem with your many similar posts here.
You seem to blindly make pronouncements about the users of a specific
brand.

No, just ones like David who feel anything other than a Canon is useless
garbage. The type who jump into any non-canon thread proclaiming why
anything other than their choice of camera is junk. Look at the recent
nikon/olympus threads, 90% of each thread is "canon rules".

There are some VERY fine photographers who use Canon.
There are some VERY fine photographers who use Nikon and others.

And some VERY fine ones who use neither of these..


I think part of the "chatter" issue is that Canon has been truly
innovative over the last number of years (fully electric mount...three
generations of IS lenses...DO lenses...first top-notch implementation of
CMOS...developer of their own sensors/chips...etc. etc.).

I don't mind the chatter, what I don't care for is people who have NO first
hand experience with anything other than say a certain canon camera making
it their life goal to bash ANYTHING other than a canon product. When I
asked about a problem I was having with a canon printer I just bought, no
one would even consider that maybe there was a problem with the printer or
the supplied software? Turns out the printer WAS defective and these same
people said "Well I doubt that was the real problem" like canon can do no
wrong?


Does this mean that Canon shooters are full
of crap somehow--simply because there are a number of aspects to Canon
which are exclusive to that brand?

What makes certain ones "full of crap" is they assume what =THEY= think is
important in a camera should be important to everyone. And any reason
someone has for not choosing a canon is "just plain BS"..


You also need to understand that Canon is wildly out-selling Nikon in the
point-and-shoot digital market...and also the DSLR market.


So? Should it make people feel a need to bash anything but their brand of
camera like goes on here?

Instead of flaming me, why don't you respond to the guy who was implying
contax users are now screwed and their cameras are useless because the
company is out of bussiness? Again I'm sorry if my original post sounded
like I somehow though a contax user would be hung up on owning the latest
greatest or just wanting to brag about their gear, that isn't what I meant.
--

Stacey

Mark² wrote:


We bought our house about 2 1/2 years ago.
In that time, it's value has increased about $300,000.
Ridiculous.
If we tried to buy it today, based on our current income, we couldn't
afford it.

The problems start when you like where you live, don't really want to move
but the increased property taxes based on this increased worth drives you
out of your house..

--

Stacey