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Please help me to decide between these two cameras! I'm torn.
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Please help me to decide between these two cameras! I'm torn.
While I allready voiced my recommendation for the sony, I should ask, how do
you plan on using the camera? Are you going to carry it around in your pocket and point and shoot, or are you going to keep it in a case and take good pictures. Richard "Steve Lee" wrote in message ... I've narrowed my selection down to the Sony DSC-W1 and Canon S500. I've read the reviews of both cameras at various sites (not user reviews, but indepth expert/editor reviews), but none seem to make a strong recommendation over the other between these two. Here are some of the reviews I've read so far: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ca...ew/index.shtml http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/so...ew/index.shtml http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/w1.html http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/s500.html http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/S500/S50A.HTM http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/W1/W1A.HTM and the side-by-side comparisons can be found here, http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/comp...dscw1&show=all Because of Carl Zeiss lens used by DSC-W1, it seems to better pictures with less noise and aberration. Also, the W1 has some manual aperature options, while the S500 has none. However, the S500's white balance options are supposed to be better than the W1. Based upon the reviews, which camera would you guys choose? Thanks for your time and courtesy! |
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Please help me to decide between these two cameras! I'm torn.
I have no experience with either. I know people with Canon's are real happy
with them and people with Sony's are not too happy with the battery life or quality on some. This doesn't necessarily apply to all models. If there is a good feature I would like on mine Canon usually has a model with it first. "Steve Lee" wrote in message ... Gymmy, thanks for your feedback based on your real life experience. I'll certainly take that into considerating as I comtemplate between the two cameras. And if I may trouble you for one more question, having read the reviews I had provided, which camera would you choose, if you had to choose just between S500 & W1? Thanks. On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:44:57 -0400, "Gymmy Bob" wrote: I have two digitals, a fuji 1400 and a fuji 2600 that use 4 and 2 AA cells respectively. The 4 AAs last about 2.0 hours on, whether you shoot pictures or not and the 2 AAs unit lasts about the same or maybe a little less. I realize this technology is almost two years old but that isn't acceptable after my Optio 550 LioN life of a week of intermediate shooting. Typical cycles range from 1 minute on to 30 minutes on with 1 to 20 pictures at a time. This has been done a few times now over a week for about 400 shots. Another thing to be noted is the Fuji 2600 with it's 2 AA cells cannot use Alkaline or Zinc-carbon batteries because they cannot charge to flash heavy draw and may damage the the circuitry from low voltage. (I have tried...they die fast) "Steve Lee" wrote in message .. . I know that W1's batteries takes much longer than S500's to recharge, 6 hours and 2 hours, respectively. But I from what I read, there isn't too much of a difference in the battery time itself. However, Canon's is a proprietary form, while Sony's is not and in case my batteries run out, I can always use alkaline AAs if needed. |
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Please help me to decide between these two cameras! I'm torn.
On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 21:31:19 GMT, "marlin"
wrote: While I allready voiced my recommendation for the sony, I should ask, how do you plan on using the camera? Are you going to carry it around in your pocket and point and shoot, or are you going to keep it in a case and take good pictures. Richard Hey Richard, I forgot to thank you for your quick and timely reply, sorry. I really appreciated it. As for how I'll be using my camera most of the time, it's really hard to say. When I go on holidays, I'll be taking scenery pictures, but also of my family in various environments, then I'll be using it to take indoor pictures of friends and family, then relatively close-up pictures of various things, from parts of the cars I have to some of the stamps I buy and sell on eBay from time to time. But, I also wanna be able to take my camera and capture some of the unexpected moments raither quickly, such as catching my little girls taking a nap side by side in a cute manner to quickly taking a picture of something interesting I might run across at a state fair or at some outdoor events. I really didn't wanna look into an SLR, though my plans for using a digicam might call for it. They're too bulky, I'm not an advanced photographer by any means to fully take advantage of the features and controls those things offer. However, if need be and I have sufficient time, I do want to manually control and adjust certain settings to get the best image quailty possible. Again, thanks for your time and courtesy! |
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Please help me to decide between these two cameras! I'm torn.
"Steve Lee" wrote in message
When I go on holidays, I'll be taking scenery pictures The only thing about the sony that worries me for this is that the wide angle is slightly more zoomed in than the canon. However, it is so slight that I don't think it matters, and the fact that you can get a conversion lens more than makes up for it. also of my family in various environments, then I'll be using it to take indoor pictures of friends and family, both are fine for this then relatively close-up pictures of various things, from parts of the cars I have to some of the stamps I buy and sell on eBay from time to time. I like the Sony more for this. It seems to take sharper macro pictures. But, I also wanna be able to take my camera and capture some of the unexpected moments raither quickly, such as catching my little girls taking a nap side by side in a cute manner to quickly taking a picture of something interesting I might run across at a state fair or at some outdoor events. I like the Sony more for this too. It has less lag and starts up a tiny bit faster. I really didn't wanna look into an SLR, though my plans for using a digicam might call for it. I don't think they do. IMHO, SLR's are for people who are taking photographs, not pictures, if you know what I mean. However, if need be and I have sufficient time, I do want to manually control and adjust certain settings to get the best image quailty possible. Yeah, I really like them for macro (close-up) pictures as well. Also, when you do macro you tend to be in a not so well lit room (room lighting is never all that bright), and the Sony has much more useful high ISO's. When taking macro shots, you want to have a fairly fast shutter speed because shake becomes very noticeable. You can't do that at ISO 50. The Sony has the same noise at ISO 100 as the Canon at ISO 50, and the same at 400 as the canon at 200. I honestly think for your purposes the Sony is better. The only time I would recommend the Canon to somebody is if really needed the camera to be .2inches smaller in each dimension, or planned to take mostly low light - I mean i nteh dark, not just lowish light - pictures (reviews say the sony lcd isn't good in low light) or if they needed to be able to charge the battery and leave it for a few months without using it. Gymmy Bob is right that the NiMh won;t hold its charge for as many days, but the sony holds charge for more hours. Again, thanks for your time and courtesy! No problem. Richard |
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Please help me to decide between these two cameras! I'm torn.
BTW, have you looked at the Casio QVR-51? This is the one i'd buy if i was looking for a compact digital. Oh, one thing I forgot to ask was, but if you had to choose between just S500 & W1, which would you choose? I don't really know much about either cameras to have an opinion. Personally I'd prefer a camera that takes SD cards as they are much much cheaper especially in 512mb size than memory sticks, and there's a big choice of makers. I'd say consider the Konica Minolta G600 which would fit in with those, it has a 6mp, uses SD AND memory stick, has some manual control options, and its images look quite good. There's a Steve-digicams review of it. Consider, not that i recommend it, but it's worth checking out. |
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Please help me to decide between these two cameras! I'm torn.
I never got the sense that QVR-51 made anyone really impressed, at least not as much as the S500 & the W1 when describing the image quality and shooting performance. People have their biases and historically Canon and Sony had quite impressive marketing. I wouldn't expect those reviewers to be as excited about a casio as they would be about a canon, and that bias could affect their evaluation. Remember that those are individuals. Here's something I find more more reliable http://dima.pmai.org/pdf/2004_camera_winners.pdf Note that the Casio is there... Note that the highly reputed Olympus 5060 and 8080 are there too, so is the Leica digilux 2. Read carefully what it said. It's a result of voting by a panel of expert judges that included "some of the most well-respected names in he industry". I have the understanding that those tests were done "blindly" (they voted on the images without knowing what cameras produced them) hence the entry number of each camera was mentioned after its name in the press release. Certainly if i was doing such a test I would make it a "blind" test to avoid any biases. |
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Please help me to decide between these two cameras! I'm torn.
Richard, thanks again for your reply. I think I'm gonna be going
ahead and call around town to see who has the best price on the W1 :-) I'll go there, compare the two cams and make my final decision. But now that I have a better understanding and idea of the differences between the two, it'll make my decision making process alot whole lot easier. Thanks!! Steve On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 23:46:00 GMT, "marlin" wrote: "Steve Lee" wrote in message When I go on holidays, I'll be taking scenery pictures The only thing about the sony that worries me for this is that the wide angle is slightly more zoomed in than the canon. However, it is so slight that I don't think it matters, and the fact that you can get a conversion lens more than makes up for it. also of my family in various environments, then I'll be using it to take indoor pictures of friends and family, both are fine for this then relatively close-up pictures of various things, from parts of the cars I have to some of the stamps I buy and sell on eBay from time to time. I like the Sony more for this. It seems to take sharper macro pictures. But, I also wanna be able to take my camera and capture some of the unexpected moments raither quickly, such as catching my little girls taking a nap side by side in a cute manner to quickly taking a picture of something interesting I might run across at a state fair or at some outdoor events. I like the Sony more for this too. It has less lag and starts up a tiny bit faster. I really didn't wanna look into an SLR, though my plans for using a digicam might call for it. I don't think they do. IMHO, SLR's are for people who are taking photographs, not pictures, if you know what I mean. However, if need be and I have sufficient time, I do want to manually control and adjust certain settings to get the best image quailty possible. Yeah, I really like them for macro (close-up) pictures as well. Also, when you do macro you tend to be in a not so well lit room (room lighting is never all that bright), and the Sony has much more useful high ISO's. When taking macro shots, you want to have a fairly fast shutter speed because shake becomes very noticeable. You can't do that at ISO 50. The Sony has the same noise at ISO 100 as the Canon at ISO 50, and the same at 400 as the canon at 200. I honestly think for your purposes the Sony is better. The only time I would recommend the Canon to somebody is if really needed the camera to be .2inches smaller in each dimension, or planned to take mostly low light - I mean i nteh dark, not just lowish light - pictures (reviews say the sony lcd isn't good in low light) or if they needed to be able to charge the battery and leave it for a few months without using it. Gymmy Bob is right that the NiMh won;t hold its charge for as many days, but the sony holds charge for more hours. Again, thanks for your time and courtesy! No problem. Richard |
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Please help me to decide between these two cameras! I'm torn.
Sabine, thanks for all your input and for your time in helping me consider some other cameras other than the S500 and the W1. Truly appreciate it! Steve I'm sorry i can't help you much about the Video and the reason is simple. I long ago gave up on the video function of digital cameras. In my opinion the best solid state video I used was the logitech pocket video 550. It's just superb for what it is. Even when played in full screen mode on my 1600x1200 monitor. It uses AA and SD, and it's quite tiny. This is one reason I only focus on image quality from a digital stills camera, because i have not seen one that'd come anywhere close to the video quality of the logitech 550. I also find it better to have it so that each use different batteries. Have a look at the logitech 550. it's superb for video. |
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