A Photography forum. PhotoBanter.com

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » PhotoBanter.com forum » Digital Photography » Digital Photography
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Two-Eyed Viewfinders



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old November 6th 06, 12:45 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
~~NoMad~~
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 86
Default Two-Eyed Viewfinders

For years I always took pictures using one eye looking through a viewfinder.
Now I have a Panasonic TZ1 that has no viewfinder and I find that I take
better pictures using the display screen. I am able to evaluate the scene on
the screen more objectively using both eyes. I look at it more like I would
look at the final print.

I will never go back to using a one-eyed viewfinder!

NM



  #2  
Old November 6th 06, 01:00 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Pat
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 517
Default Two-Eyed Viewfinders


~~NoMad~~ wrote:
For years I always took pictures using one eye looking through a viewfinder.
Now I have a Panasonic TZ1 that has no viewfinder and I find that I take
better pictures using the display screen. I am able to evaluate the scene on
the screen more objectively using both eyes. I look at it more like I would
look at the final print.

I will never go back to using a one-eyed viewfinder!

NM


The trade-off you make is stability. Hold a camera next to you and
look through a viewfinder and you are pretty stable. Hold it out 2
feet to see the viewfinder and you have introduced lots of shake..

It's okay for some stuff, esp. small prints and snapshots. But you
wouldn't want to be holding a 300 mm lens like that.

  #3  
Old November 6th 06, 01:09 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
~~NoMad~~
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 86
Default Two-Eyed Viewfinders


"Pat" wrote in message
oups.com...

~~NoMad~~ wrote:
For years I always took pictures using one eye looking through a
viewfinder.
Now I have a Panasonic TZ1 that has no viewfinder and I find that I take
better pictures using the display screen. I am able to evaluate the scene
on
the screen more objectively using both eyes. I look at it more like I
would
look at the final print.

I will never go back to using a one-eyed viewfinder!

NM


The trade-off you make is stability. Hold a camera next to you and
look through a viewfinder and you are pretty stable. Hold it out 2
feet to see the viewfinder and you have introduced lots of shake..

It's okay for some stuff, esp. small prints and snapshots. But you
wouldn't want to be holding a 300 mm lens like that.

My Panasonic TZ1 has the equivalent of a 420mm lens with image stabilization
and works very well held at an arms length.

No blurry pictures and Good Composition to boot!

NM


  #4  
Old November 6th 06, 01:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Daniel Silevitch
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 380
Default Two-Eyed Viewfinders

On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 05:09:53 -0800, ~~NoMad~~ wrote:

"Pat" wrote in message
oups.com...

~~NoMad~~ wrote:
For years I always took pictures using one eye looking through a
viewfinder.
Now I have a Panasonic TZ1 that has no viewfinder and I find that I take
better pictures using the display screen. I am able to evaluate the scene
on
the screen more objectively using both eyes. I look at it more like I
would
look at the final print.

I will never go back to using a one-eyed viewfinder!

NM


The trade-off you make is stability. Hold a camera next to you and
look through a viewfinder and you are pretty stable. Hold it out 2
feet to see the viewfinder and you have introduced lots of shake..

It's okay for some stuff, esp. small prints and snapshots. But you
wouldn't want to be holding a 300 mm lens like that.

My Panasonic TZ1 has the equivalent of a 420mm lens with image stabilization
and works very well held at an arms length.

No blurry pictures and Good Composition to boot!


Now try it in bright back-lit sunlight, when that LCD is washed out from
the glare.

I sometimes use the LCD for framing, especially if I want to take shots
at odd angles where eye-to-viewfinder is inconvenient, but mostly I use
the (electronic) finder on my FZ5. Two reasons:
1. As mentioned, stability. The image stabilizer is nice, but it works
best if you keep the camera fairly steady to begin with
2. Fewer visual distractions. I see what the camera is seeing, and
nothing else, especially if I close the eye that isn't being used to
look through the finder.

-dms
  #5  
Old November 6th 06, 01:35 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
RPH
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default Two-Eyed Viewfinders

"~~NoMad~~" wrote in
:


"Pat" wrote in message
oups.com...

~~NoMad~~ wrote:
For years I always took pictures using one eye looking through a
viewfinder.
Now I have a Panasonic TZ1 that has no viewfinder and I find that I
take better pictures using the display screen. I am able to evaluate
the scene on
the screen more objectively using both eyes. I look at it more like
I would
look at the final print.

I will never go back to using a one-eyed viewfinder!

NM


The trade-off you make is stability. Hold a camera next to you and
look through a viewfinder and you are pretty stable. Hold it out 2
feet to see the viewfinder and you have introduced lots of shake..

It's okay for some stuff, esp. small prints and snapshots. But you
wouldn't want to be holding a 300 mm lens like that.

My Panasonic TZ1 has the equivalent of a 420mm lens with image
stabilization and works very well held at an arms length.

No blurry pictures and Good Composition to boot!



Conversely, I find I take much _worse_ pictures when using the display
rather than the viewfinder. YMMV.


--
Rich Hanson
Music: http://www.richardhanson.me.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/richhanson
Local: http://www.borstal.org.uk/
Other: http://www.plompy.co.uk/

  #6  
Old November 17th 06, 07:58 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
marika
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 98
Default Two-Eyed Viewfinders

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:35:23 -0500, RPH
wrote:

"~~NoMad~~" wrote in
:


"Pat" wrote in message
oups.com...

~~NoMad~~ wrote:
For years I always took pictures using one eye looking through a
viewfinder.
Now I have a Panasonic TZ1 that has no viewfinder and I find that I
take better pictures using the display screen. I am able to evaluate
the scene on
the screen more objectively using both eyes. I look at it more like
I would
look at the final print.

I will never go back to using a one-eyed viewfinder!

NM

The trade-off you make is stability. Hold a camera next to you and
look through a viewfinder and you are pretty stable. Hold it out 2
feet to see the viewfinder and you have introduced lots of shake..

It's okay for some stuff, esp. small prints and snapshots. But you
wouldn't want to be holding a 300 mm lens like that.

My Panasonic TZ1 has the equivalent of a 420mm lens with image
stabilization and works very well held at an arms length.

No blurry pictures and Good Composition to boot!



Conversely, I find I take much _worse_ pictures when using the display
rather than the viewfinder. YMMV.


i think I predicted it would end for this reason cos of an article I read
about people complaining it was too hard work.
not for ratings but for laziness
  #7  
Old November 6th 06, 06:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill Funk
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,500
Default Two-Eyed Viewfinders

On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 05:09:53 -0800, "~~NoMad~~"
wrote:


"Pat" wrote in message
roups.com...

~~NoMad~~ wrote:
For years I always took pictures using one eye looking through a
viewfinder.
Now I have a Panasonic TZ1 that has no viewfinder and I find that I take
better pictures using the display screen. I am able to evaluate the scene
on
the screen more objectively using both eyes. I look at it more like I
would
look at the final print.

I will never go back to using a one-eyed viewfinder!

NM


The trade-off you make is stability. Hold a camera next to you and
look through a viewfinder and you are pretty stable. Hold it out 2
feet to see the viewfinder and you have introduced lots of shake..

It's okay for some stuff, esp. small prints and snapshots. But you
wouldn't want to be holding a 300 mm lens like that.

My Panasonic TZ1 has the equivalent of a 420mm lens with image stabilization
and works very well held at an arms length.


Shouldn't that be a 350mm equilivent?
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...000000 005702
or:
http://tinyurl.com/gv37f
Unless, of course, you lower resolution.

No blurry pictures and Good Composition to boot!

NM

--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"
  #8  
Old November 17th 06, 07:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
marika
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 98
Default Two-Eyed Viewfinders

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:09:53 -0500, ~~NoMad~~
wrote:


"Pat" wrote in message
oups.com...

~~NoMad~~ wrote:
For years I always took pictures using one eye looking through a
viewfinder.
Now I have a Panasonic TZ1 that has no viewfinder and I find that I
take
better pictures using the display screen. I am able to evaluate the
scene
on
the screen more objectively using both eyes. I look at it more like I
would
look at the final print.

I will never go back to using a one-eyed viewfinder!

NM


The trade-off you make is stability. Hold a camera next to you and
look through a viewfinder and you are pretty stable. Hold it out 2
feet to see the viewfinder and you have introduced lots of shake..

It's okay for some stuff, esp. small prints and snapshots. But you
wouldn't want to be holding a 300 mm lens like that.

My Panasonic TZ1 has the equivalent of a 420mm lens with image
stabilization
and works very well held at an arms length.


sadlyn they do this in real life. I have been the victim of hearing this
crap on more than one occasion


No blurry pictures and Good Composition to boot!


and all that happened was I was at a party and I wasn't even talking and
they started making these snide comments and kicking with boots.
Fortunately the host heard it and made them stop
  #9  
Old November 6th 06, 09:12 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Charles Schuler
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 431
Default Two-Eyed Viewfinders


"Pat" wrote in message
oups.com...

~~NoMad~~ wrote:
For years I always took pictures using one eye looking through a
viewfinder.
Now I have a Panasonic TZ1 that has no viewfinder and I find that I take
better pictures using the display screen. I am able to evaluate the scene
on
the screen more objectively using both eyes. I look at it more like I
would
look at the final print.

I will never go back to using a one-eyed viewfinder!

NM


The trade-off you make is stability. Hold a camera next to you and
look through a viewfinder and you are pretty stable. Hold it out 2
feet to see the viewfinder and you have introduced lots of shake..

It's okay for some stuff, esp. small prints and snapshots. But you
wouldn't want to be holding a 300 mm lens like that.


Good post. The stability difference is significant (it does vary with age
and physical condition, of course).


  #10  
Old November 17th 06, 07:52 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
marika
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 98
Default Two-Eyed Viewfinders

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:00:05 -0500, Pat
wrote:


~~NoMad~~ wrote:
For years I always took pictures using one eye looking through a
viewfinder.
Now I have a Panasonic TZ1 that has no viewfinder and I find that I take
better pictures using the display screen. I am able to evaluate the
scene on
the screen more objectively using both eyes. I look at it more like I
would
look at the final print.

I will never go back to using a one-eyed viewfinder!

NM


The trade-off you make is stability.


looks like a trend

Hold a camera next to you and
look through a viewfinder and you are pretty stable. Hold it out 2
feet to see the viewfinder and you have introduced lots of shake..

It's okay for some stuff, esp. small prints and snapshots. But you
wouldn't want to be holding a 300 mm lens like that.


 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Viewfinders! DB4 Digital Photography 13 July 25th 06 01:31 PM
P&S optical viewfinders Colin Brace Digital Photography 14 April 3rd 06 11:06 PM
viewfinders [email protected] Digital Photography 9 December 29th 05 06:52 AM
Film vs. digital - viewfinders Zebedee 35mm Photo Equipment 6 July 24th 04 06:50 PM
Film vs. digital - viewfinders richardsfault 35mm Photo Equipment 2 July 24th 04 08:16 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 PhotoBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.