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Panasonic DMC-FZ30
I'd appreciate hearing what you folks think of this camera. I have read
many good reviews along with some very critical ones about image quality and noise. I was considering a DSLR, but the price and features of this camera have caused me to rethink my plan. Some suggested that the quality control of this camera's production may be quite variable. With your help. my brother-in-law bought the Z5, and he is very happy with it. Thanks in advance for your help. Best, Sandy |
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Panasonic DMC-FZ30
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005, at 08:15:09 [GMT GMT] (19:15:09 Friday, 30 December
2005 where I live) "Sandy Bloom, Ph.D." wrote: I'd appreciate hearing what you folks think of this camera. I have read many good reviews along with some very critical ones about image quality and noise. I was considering a DSLR, but the price and features of this camera have caused me to rethink my plan. Every review, bar none, that I have read about this camera mentions noise, noise, noise. That put me off it, ended with a Canon Powershot A620 for carrying around, does a great job. |
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I have made over 2000 photos with my FZ30 and I am happy with it. I upgraded
from FZ20. I did a lot of research, printed a few of FZ30 photos and only then I decided to get one. I think knew very well what to expect. I often do quite large prints and noise was never an issue. Well, almost. Under very bad light, the Lumix does indeed produce noise - but I still have to see a compact camera which does not. When I need to enlarge pictures taken under low light, that is, maximum 10% of all, I use NeatImage or NoiseNinja and that does it. The FZ30 is lightweight but sturdy, has superb handling like a professional SLR and, above all, the Leica lens is outstanding. Whatever opinion you read, no one would even try to hint at some problems with lens and picture quality. I would never buy a superzoom without image stabilizer and the FZ30 has an excellent one. Yes, there is some noise but I believe not less or more than in all other compact cameras using small chips. Unless you intend to do extreme enlargements, noise is really not an issue. Generally, noise is a very favoured theme of many reviewers. They should focus more on the lens qualities in different models - this is where gaping differences exist, not in noise levels. I believe the RAW capabilities tipped the scale in favour of FZ30. When you really want a superb picture, shoot RAW and do your postprocessing in the Photoshop RAW converter. No noise. Regards, Pavel "Sandy Bloom, Ph.D." píše v diskusním příspěvku ... I'd appreciate hearing what you folks think of this camera. I have read many good reviews along with some very critical ones about image quality and noise. I was considering a DSLR, but the price and features of this camera have caused me to rethink my plan. Some suggested that the quality control of this camera's production may be quite variable. With your help. my brother-in-law bought the Z5, and he is very happy with it. Thanks in advance for your help. Best, Sandy |
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Panasonic DMC-FZ30
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:59:41 +0100, "P" wrote Re
Panasonic DMC-FZ30: I have made over 2000 photos with my FZ30 and I am happy with it. I upgraded from FZ20. Can you tell us what you prefer about the FZ30 over the FZ20? I would be interested. -- To email me directly, remove CLUTTER. |
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Panasonic DMC-FZ30
Vic Dura wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:59:41 +0100, "P" wrote Re Panasonic DMC-FZ30: I have made over 2000 photos with my FZ30 and I am happy with it. I upgraded from FZ20. Can you tell us what you prefer about the FZ30 over the FZ20? I would be interested. Here's the list of advantages I put together a while back: It has a RAW mode. It boots in 1 second versus 5 because the lens doesn't extend. It has a manual zoom ring in addition to the focus ring. Viewfinder and LCD have 1.4x the resolution Tripod mounting hole is inline with the lens. LCD gains up in low light. Separate control dials for shutter, aperture. VGA-quality 30fps movie mode. 55mm filter threads, no adapter needed. Battery and memory card can be changed while camera is on a tripod. (The FZ20's battery/memory door looks like a tripod head would block it.) Not all of those are killer differences, but the package is really attractive. For balance, here's my list of cons: Only slightly better image quality than the FZ20 after dealing with noise. Effective focal length is slightly shorter. Heavier and larger by a little bit. Macro slightly less capable than the FZ20. Some CA at the wide end, some distortion, relative to the FZ20. IS not quite as effective due to the higher resolution. I don't own the camera and have simply dredged this stuff out of reviews. Some of this stuff might even be wrong. I'd be interested in hearing from owners of the FZ30 about which of these things are actually important. Paul Allen |
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Panasonic DMC-FZ30
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:24:04 -0800, Paul Allen "paul dot l dot allen
at comcast dot net" wrote Re Panasonic DMC-FZ30: Vic Dura wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:59:41 +0100, "P" wrote Re Panasonic DMC-FZ30: I have made over 2000 photos with my FZ30 and I am happy with it. I upgraded from FZ20. Can you tell us what you prefer about the FZ30 over the FZ20? I would be interested. Here's the list of advantages I put together a while back: Thanks very much. -- To email me directly, remove CLUTTER. |
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Panasonic DMC-FZ30
Also, Steves Digicams does not join the noise lamentation choir! Go see
their ISO comparison pics. My Canon S2IS, as well as most other super zoom cameras have much more noise att 400 ISO than the FZ30! /per |
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Panasonic DMC-FZ30
On 31 Dec 2005 13:33:43 +0100, "per" wrote:
Also, Steves Digicams does not join the noise lamentation choir! Go see their ISO comparison pics. My Canon S2IS, as well as most other super zoom cameras have much more noise att 400 ISO than the FZ30! /per Panasonic's claim to fame is resolution that is excellent. Which is great at 80 ISO, big print potential is there. But.... Keep the images small, it should be ok. But a 400 ISO shot just looks ugly up close. The noise isn't "nice" noise that approximates a film grain pattern (like, for instances Nikon's 8080 produces) it's big and blotchy and colourful. Like lots of noise supression was used but didn't really work. There (IMO) are three kinds of noise. 1. Noise that is present but not too offensive, presenting a film grain-like appearance (Nikon 8080, etc) 2. Noise that is present and truly ugly (Panasonic FZ30) 3. Noise that although visible can be dealt with in a noise program like "Neat Image" with little or no effect on fine detail. Here is a Panasonic FZ30 image from dpreview's review. At a distance (small image or print) it doesn't matter much. Up close, it's terrible. 400 ISO. Where I've found noise really offensive is when someone's face is involved. It makes the person look like they have some skin disease! http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/pan...icture-268.jpg |
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Sandy Bloom, Ph.D. wrote:
I'd appreciate hearing what you folks think of this camera. I have read many good reviews along with some very critical ones about image quality and noise. I was considering a DSLR, but the price and features of this camera have caused me to rethink my plan. You'll get better image quality with a DSLR: more dynamic range and much better low-light performance. But, you give up some things like pre- exposure histogram and being able to frame using that big LCD. Some suggested that the quality control of this camera's production may be quite variable. Random Usenet posters, or serious reviewers? Do you have any links? With your help. my brother-in-law bought the Z5, and he is very happy with it. The few reports I've seen from owners have been positive. Serious photographers are not buying this camera, so we're hearing from people who can tolerate its limitations. It's a trade-off. Paul Allen |
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Panasonic DMC-FZ30
"Paul Allen" "paul dot l dot allen at comcast dot net" wrote in message ... Random Usenet posters, or serious reviewers? Do you have any links? I read them at dpreview.com. What do you think? Thanks, Sandy Sandy Bloom, Ph.D. wrote: I'd appreciate hearing what you folks think of this camera. I have read many good reviews along with some very critical ones about image quality and noise. I was considering a DSLR, but the price and features of this camera have caused me to rethink my plan. You'll get better image quality with a DSLR: more dynamic range and much better low-light performance. But, you give up some things like pre- exposure histogram and being able to frame using that big LCD. Some suggested that the quality control of this camera's production may be quite variable. Random Usenet posters, or serious reviewers? Do you have any links? With your help. my brother-in-law bought the Z5, and he is very happy with it. The few reports I've seen from owners have been positive. Serious photographers are not buying this camera, so we're hearing from people who can tolerate its limitations. It's a trade-off. Paul Allen |
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