Newbie question about field cameras that accept 120 rolls

"Shelley" wrote in message news:SCxld.2762$h15.2138@trnddc07...
There are also slip-in type roll holders that go in in front of the
focusing panel as sheet film holders do. But this is as inconvenient
as removing the focusing panel and replacing it with a roll holder.

Just curious. why do you think it's as inconvenient to slip a roll film
holder under the ground glass, photograph, and remove the holder as it is to
remove the ground glass frame, find a safe place to put it, insert the roll
film holder, photograph, remove the roll film holder, retrieve the ground
glass frame, and put the ground glass frame back in the camera.


Either way is time-consuming and intervenes between final
focus/compose and shooting.

The Graflok focusing panel comes off very easily. A 2x3 focusing
panel fits in a pocket, and so does a 2x3 Graflex-made roll holder.
Attaching the Graflex-made roll holder to the back puts a little less
torque on the camera than inserting a slip-in holder. I say
Graflex-made to make it clear that I'm talking about a holder made to
attach to a Graflok back.

The slip-in holder fits in a pocket, is pretty easy to insert and
remove. But everything has to be locked up tight to get it in without
shifting the camera a little.

For 2x3 both types of holders are about equally good. Or equally bad.
For 4x5, well, then the holders are larger and more-or-less equally
less conveniet. 4x5 requires larger pockets that 2x3.

Cheers,

Dan

"Shelley" wrote in message news:SCxld.2762$h15.2138@trnddc07...
There are also slip-in type roll holders that go in in front of the
focusing panel as sheet film holders do. But this is as inconvenient
as removing the focusing panel and replacing it with a roll holder.

Just curious. why do you think it's as inconvenient to slip a roll film
holder under the ground glass, photograph, and remove the holder as it is to
remove the ground glass frame, find a safe place to put it, insert the roll
film holder, photograph, remove the roll film holder, retrieve the ground
glass frame, and put the ground glass frame back in the camera.


Either way is time-consuming and intervenes between final
focus/compose and shooting.

The Graflok focusing panel comes off very easily. A 2x3 focusing
panel fits in a pocket, and so does a 2x3 Graflex-made roll holder.
Attaching the Graflex-made roll holder to the back puts a little less
torque on the camera than inserting a slip-in holder. I say
Graflex-made to make it clear that I'm talking about a holder made to
attach to a Graflok back.

The slip-in holder fits in a pocket, is pretty easy to insert and
remove. But everything has to be locked up tight to get it in without
shifting the camera a little.

For 2x3 both types of holders are about equally good. Or equally bad.
For 4x5, well, then the holders are larger and more-or-less equally
less conveniet. 4x5 requires larger pockets that 2x3.

Cheers,

Dan

I didn't write the second sentence of the first paragraph below that you
attribute to me. Someone else said that and you've merged it with the tings
I did write. But that's o.k., I still don't understand why having to remove,
store, and then replace the ground glass frame is just as inconvenient as
not having to do any of those things but I'll take your word for it. Maybe
the problem is that I live in Florida and we don't wear coats when we
photograph. : - )

"Dan Fromm" wrote in message
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"Shelley" wrote in message
news:SCxld.2762$h15.2138@trnddc07...
There are also slip-in type roll holders that go in in front of the
focusing panel as sheet film holders do. But this is as inconvenient
as removing the focusing panel and replacing it with a roll holder.

Just curious. why do you think it's as inconvenient to slip a roll film
holder under the ground glass, photograph, and remove the holder as it
is to
remove the ground glass frame, find a safe place to put it, insert the
roll
film holder, photograph, remove the roll film holder, retrieve the
ground
glass frame, and put the ground glass frame back in the camera.


Either way is time-consuming and intervenes between final
focus/compose and shooting.

The Graflok focusing panel comes off very easily. A 2x3 focusing
panel fits in a pocket, and so does a 2x3 Graflex-made roll holder.
Attaching the Graflex-made roll holder to the back puts a little less
torque on the camera than inserting a slip-in holder. I say
Graflex-made to make it clear that I'm talking about a holder made to
attach to a Graflok back.

The slip-in holder fits in a pocket, is pretty easy to insert and
remove. But everything has to be locked up tight to get it in without
shifting the camera a little.

For 2x3 both types of holders are about equally good. Or equally bad.
For 4x5, well, then the holders are larger and more-or-less equally
less conveniet. 4x5 requires larger pockets that 2x3.

Cheers,

Dan

I didn't write the second sentence of the first paragraph below that you
attribute to me. Someone else said that and you've merged it with the tings
I did write. But that's o.k., I still don't understand why having to remove,
store, and then replace the ground glass frame is just as inconvenient as
not having to do any of those things but I'll take your word for it. Maybe
the problem is that I live in Florida and we don't wear coats when we
photograph. : - )

"Dan Fromm" wrote in message
om...
"Shelley" wrote in message
news:SCxld.2762$h15.2138@trnddc07...
There are also slip-in type roll holders that go in in front of the
focusing panel as sheet film holders do. But this is as inconvenient
as removing the focusing panel and replacing it with a roll holder.

Just curious. why do you think it's as inconvenient to slip a roll film
holder under the ground glass, photograph, and remove the holder as it
is to
remove the ground glass frame, find a safe place to put it, insert the
roll
film holder, photograph, remove the roll film holder, retrieve the
ground
glass frame, and put the ground glass frame back in the camera.


Either way is time-consuming and intervenes between final
focus/compose and shooting.

The Graflok focusing panel comes off very easily. A 2x3 focusing
panel fits in a pocket, and so does a 2x3 Graflex-made roll holder.
Attaching the Graflex-made roll holder to the back puts a little less
torque on the camera than inserting a slip-in holder. I say
Graflex-made to make it clear that I'm talking about a holder made to
attach to a Graflok back.

The slip-in holder fits in a pocket, is pretty easy to insert and
remove. But everything has to be locked up tight to get it in without
shifting the camera a little.

For 2x3 both types of holders are about equally good. Or equally bad.
For 4x5, well, then the holders are larger and more-or-less equally
less conveniet. 4x5 requires larger pockets that 2x3.

Cheers,

Dan

"Dan Fromm" wrote in message
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[SNIP]

4x5 requires larger pockets that 2x3.


In more ways than one! ;-)


Peter

"Dan Fromm" wrote in message
om...
[SNIP]

4x5 requires larger pockets that 2x3.


In more ways than one! ;-)


Peter

"Bandicoot" wrote in
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"jjs" wrote in message
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"Shelley" wrote in message
news:SCxld.2762$h15.2138@trnddc07...

Just curious. why do you think it's as inconvenient to slip a roll
film holder under the ground glass, photograph, and remove the
holder as it
is
to
remove the ground glass frame, find a safe place to put it, insert
the roll
film holder, photograph, remove the roll film holder, retrieve the
ground
glass frame, and put the ground glass frame back in the camera.

Shelley, you left out a part: "slip and drop the ground glass and
then
drop
the roll film holder" "into the dirt", then "clean them", and of
course,
all
the cussing.



In the immortal words of Mark Twian, "profanity offers a form of relief
denied even to prayer".

"Bandicoot" wrote in
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"jjs" wrote in message
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"Shelley" wrote in message
news:SCxld.2762$h15.2138@trnddc07...

Just curious. why do you think it's as inconvenient to slip a roll
film holder under the ground glass, photograph, and remove the
holder as it
is
to
remove the ground glass frame, find a safe place to put it, insert
the roll
film holder, photograph, remove the roll film holder, retrieve the
ground
glass frame, and put the ground glass frame back in the camera.

Shelley, you left out a part: "slip and drop the ground glass and
then
drop
the roll film holder" "into the dirt", then "clean them", and of
course,
all
the cussing.



In the immortal words of Mark Twian, "profanity offers a form of relief
denied even to prayer".