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Panasonic FZ30 v Fuji Finepix S602Z
I'm going on Safari in Kenya in June and was thinking of changing my
Fuji Finepix S602Z for the Panasonic FZ30 to get the 12x zoom rather than the Fuji's 6x. Image stabilisation and the quicker startup were/are also a consideration (ideally I would like something like the EOS350D but I doubt I could afford the equivalent of the 12x zoom for it!). I'm hesitating about changing after seeing conflicting comments about the Panasonic's images being noisy above ISO 80. Anyone got any views on how it compares with the Fuji in this area? If it is an issue with the FZ30 I'd hate to get one now only to find it's fixed in the next model in only a few months. OTH, I'd hate to miss a decent photograph with the lesser lens and system... TIA. |
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Panasonic FZ30 v Fuji Finepix S602Z
F wrote:
I'm going on Safari in Kenya in June and was thinking of changing my Fuji Finepix S602Z for the Panasonic FZ30 to get the 12x zoom rather than the Fuji's 6x. Image stabilisation and the quicker startup were/are also a consideration (ideally I would like something like the EOS350D but I doubt I could afford the equivalent of the 12x zoom for it!). I'm hesitating about changing after seeing conflicting comments about the Panasonic's images being noisy above ISO 80. Anyone got any views on how it compares with the Fuji in this area? If it is an issue with the FZ30 I'd hate to get one now only to find it's fixed in the next model in only a few months. OTH, I'd hate to miss a decent photograph with the lesser lens and system... The FZ30 definitely has more noise at ISO 400 than the S602, although Neatimage apparently deals with that fairly effectively. What you get with the FZ30 is that lovely 12x zoom with a mechanically-linked zoom ring in addition to the focus-by-wire ring, a higher pixel count, the tilt/swivel 2" LCD, and a proprietary battery. There may be some other operational differences, but I don't have enough data to judge. It's probably true that there will be an FZ35 in six months. They'd have to do something radical (like use a SuperCCD sensor) to fix the noise problem. All of their designs (and those of most other makers except Fuji) have had some noise at higher ISO settings. Paul Allen |
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Panasonic FZ30 v Fuji Finepix S602Z
On 19/04/2006 16:52 Paul Allen wrote:
The FZ30 definitely has more noise at ISO 400 than the S602, although Neatimage apparently deals with that fairly effectively. I need to find out more about Neatimage! It's probably true that there will be an FZ35 in six months. They'd have to do something radical (like use a SuperCCD sensor) to fix the noise problem. Which makes it a little less likely then... Thanks for the help: appreciated! -- Frank (Beware of spam trap - remove the negative) |
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Panasonic FZ30 v Fuji Finepix S602Z
- And on Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:43:02 +0100, it was spake thus said in message F :
I'm going on Safari in Kenya in June and was thinking of changing my Fuji Finepix S602Z for the Panasonic FZ30 to get the 12x zoom rather than the Fuji's 6x. Image stabilisation and the quicker startup were/are also a consideration (ideally I would like something like the EOS350D but I doubt I could afford the equivalent of the 12x zoom for it!). I'm hesitating about changing after seeing conflicting comments about the Panasonic's images being noisy above ISO 80. Anyone got any views on how it compares with the Fuji in this area? If it is an issue with the FZ30 I'd hate to get one now only to find it's fixed in the next model in only a few months. OTH, I'd hate to miss a decent photograph with the lesser lens and system... TIA. Just discovered this group, should be interesting reading... I am very happy with my Canon S2 IS, produces some darn good results. I must admit I haven't anything to compare it to but I'm more than happy with the IS and the mech/digi zoom. Ok I know it's a compromise, but what do you expect from something that's an all in one... I don't think that the image gets too noisy, until you go into the digital part of the zoom but that's understandable and I take it into consideration when/if I use it. -- Nick in Northallerton Also @ www.whelan.me.uk And nickw7coc on Yahoo & MSN but I use http://www.trillian.cc as I like it better also on Skype and Google talk |
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Panasonic FZ30 v Fuji Finepix S602Z
Nick wrote:
[] Just discovered this group, should be interesting reading... I am very happy with my Canon S2 IS, produces some darn good results. I must admit I haven't anything to compare it to but I'm more than happy with the IS and the mech/digi zoom. The group for full-control ZLR cameras such as the Canon S2 IS and Panasonic FZ30 is actually: rec.photo.digital.zlr They are off-topic in this group. David |
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Panasonic FZ30 v Fuji Finepix S602Z
David J Taylor wrote:
Nick wrote: [] Just discovered this group, should be interesting reading... I am very happy with my Canon S2 IS, produces some darn good results. I must admit I haven't anything to compare it to but I'm more than happy with the IS and the mech/digi zoom. The group for full-control ZLR cameras such as the Canon S2 IS and Panasonic FZ30 is actually: rec.photo.digital.zlr They are off-topic in this group. However he is far more likely to get a useful response here than there. David -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Panasonic FZ30 v Fuji Finepix S602Z
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:52:47 -0700, Paul Allen "paul dot l dot allen
at comcast dot net" wrote: F wrote: I'm going on Safari in Kenya in June and was thinking of changing my Fuji Finepix S602Z for the Panasonic FZ30 to get the 12x zoom rather than the Fuji's 6x. Image stabilisation and the quicker startup were/are also a consideration (ideally I would like something like the EOS350D but I doubt I could afford the equivalent of the 12x zoom for it!). I'm hesitating about changing after seeing conflicting comments about the Panasonic's images being noisy above ISO 80. Anyone got any views on how it compares with the Fuji in this area? If it is an issue with the FZ30 I'd hate to get one now only to find it's fixed in the next model in only a few months. OTH, I'd hate to miss a decent photograph with the lesser lens and system... The FZ30 definitely has more noise at ISO 400 than the S602, although Neatimage apparently deals with that fairly effectively. What you get with the FZ30 is that lovely 12x zoom with a mechanically-linked zoom ring in addition to the focus-by-wire ring, a higher pixel count, the tilt/swivel 2" LCD, and a proprietary battery. There may be some other operational differences, but I don't have enough data to judge. It's probably true that there will be an FZ35 in six months. They'd have to do something radical (like use a SuperCCD sensor) to fix the noise problem. All of their designs (and those of most other makers except Fuji) have had some noise at higher ISO settings. Paul Allen I have a FZ5 the little brother to the FZ30. yes there is noticeable noise at high ISO. The pictures that are marginally noisy are ones that I wouldn't have gotten at all with my OM2 film camera. The image stabilization and the 12x zoom gets useful shots in some marginal situations. Subjectively the noise even at high ISO from my FZ5 is less than I get from scanning my old slides and negatives. For noise reduction I use Noise Ninja. |
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Panasonic FZ30 v Fuji Finepix S602Z
On 20/04/2006 05:15 David J Taylor wrote:
The group for full-control ZLR cameras such as the Canon S2 IS and Panasonic FZ30 is actually: rec.photo.digital.zlr They are off-topic in this group. Yet I keep seeing the description 'point and shoot' in reviews of the FZ30... -- Frank (Beware of spam trap - remove the negative) |
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Point-and-shoot
F wrote:
[] Yet I keep seeing the description 'point and shoot' in reviews of the FZ30... All digital cameras can (with very few exceptions) be used in a point-and-shoot mode. Even DSLRs The distinction made when setting up the new groups was - broadly speaking: - compact point and shoot with no manual control - ZLR cameras - bigger SLR-shaped cameras with full manual control - interchangeable-lens DSLR cameras - rangefinder cameras The intention was to help focus discussion better than the single "rec.photo.digital" newsgroup which was (and still is) too busy for many people. Having seen how that's worked over the past 18 months or so, my own feeling is that two groups, DSLR and none-DSLR, would now be a better set, as the boundaries between camera models have blurred over the period. (Of course, this discussion itself should be in the main group). David |
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