need help with lighting groups

On 8/27/08 9:25 PM, in article
, "picture
taker" wrote:

wedding groups shots in church after the ceremony i always have light
fall on the corners .

24-70 2.8l exposure 125/4.5 i hate bumbing up the iso but do but still
am not happy doing that .
im using a canond 5d with the quantum t5d-r on a custom bracket .
i shooot raw and have a little room to open them up more but was
thinking about adding another light to get even lighting .
do any of you guys/girls have any experience with this type of
lighting ?
do any of you bring along studio strobes and use them for these shots ?
Most pros do.

On camera strobe with small diffusser (al la Gary Fong). Softbox 18 -24" w/
"potato-masher" powered w 510v battery 15 -20 degrees off-axis - controlled
by RF unit on lightstand 8 -12' high. But I don't do weddings anymore.


On 8/28/08 7:53 PM, in article
,
" wrote:

george, what would be a typical set up using strobes ?
2 strobes one high one low ,larger soft boxes, or umbrellas ?
thanks

On Aug 28, 9:19�am, George Kerby wrote:
On 8/27/08 9:25 PM, in article
, "picture

taker" wrote:
wedding groups shots in church after the ceremony i always have light
fall on the corners .

24-70 2.8l exposure 125/4.5 i hate bumbing up the iso but do but still
am not happy doing that .
im using a canond 5d with the quantum t5d-r on a custom bracket .
i shooot raw and have a little room to open them up more but was
thinking about adding another light to get even lighting .
do any of you guys/girls have any experience with this type of
lighting ?
do any of you bring along studio strobes and use them for these shots ?

Most pros do.

On 8/29/08 8:08 AM, in article
, "Rita Berkowitz"
wrote:

George Kerby wrote:

On camera strobe with small diffusser (al la Gary Fong). Softbox 18
-24" w/ "potato-masher" powered w 510v battery 15 -20 degrees
off-axis - controlled by RF unit on lightstand 8 -12' high. But I
don't do weddings anymore.

For Christ's sake the only lighting a pro photographer needs is the Larry
Thong LightBottle. It's the best accessory for weddings.

Look Rita, we don't care what you do with your marital aids.

We're talkin' photography here...

George Kerby wrote:


On 8/29/08 8:08 AM, in article
, "Rita Berkowitz"
wrote:

George Kerby wrote:

On camera strobe with small diffusser (al la Gary Fong). Softbox 18
-24" w/ "potato-masher" powered w 510v battery 15 -20 degrees
off-axis - controlled by RF unit on lightstand 8 -12' high. But I
don't do weddings anymore.
For Christ's sake the only lighting a pro photographer needs is the Larry
Thong LightBottle. It's the best accessory for weddings.

Look Rita, we don't care what you do with your marital aids.

We're talkin' photography here...


Maybe where you live you get to take a portable studio down into the
church but here in Australia, what you can't carry, you ain't got.

I once used a small Metz camera flash with a diffuser as a fill light. I
used a GN 50 flash and Nissen slave firing into a 20" silver or gold
reflector. I made a handle for the slave and reflector from a paint
roller poll which my assistant held above my head for smooth skinned
people or below my waist for those with a multi chin problem.

The slave fired into the diffuser to spread the light. The camera flash
to help remove wrinkle shadows.

In 1993 I thought that was great. Well lit scenes with virtually no
shadows. Today I use a D3 Nikon and take full advantage of its high ISO
capabilities and use natural light or at worst, a 36" reflector to throw
light to the subject. I may use a flash directed to the reflector.

Why different? Evolution. I now like the shadows and highlights of
natural lighting. I now believe you can't beat God for light. A 5D can
use ISO 1600 OK as well as pull up 2 stops from the shadows. Why not try
doing that? Grain (noise) is not your enemy. It is a tool - part of
creativity you can use to good effect. Just kill the colour and you can
charge extra for a '60's style photograph.

Nothing wrong with shadows. They are everywhere in real life. Why not in
your 2 dimensional representation of a 3 dimensional subject?

A lot of stuff here shot with a 5D and 580 Speedlite using a white paper
bag or piece of tracing paper for a diffuser.
http://www.weddingsnportraits.com.au...olio/weddings/ You might also
like to sacrifice some flash power and use the built in diffuser to
spread the light around. Might drain your batteries quickly but it
worked sometimes.