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On 3/4/2015 4:44 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

BTW you have never defined normal use. I submit that the reason, is that
you cannotl or refuse to. .

define the legal concept of reasonable person test.

You used the expression. We ar entitled to know what you meant. You
failure to respond will be fairly taken to mean that you are again
talking out of your ass.

you can't be that stupid. stop being an argumentative asshole. normal
use is normal everyday use, not forcibly trying to bend it.

So you will not define normal use. Is putting a phone in your pocket
normal use?

absolutely, and it won't bend if you do that.

if it did, then there would be millions of bent phones, and there
aren't.

this has been tested by various news sites too, including sitting down
with it in a pocket and other normal daily activities.

you have to really work at it to bend it, which is the case for pretty
much anything.

give me one of your cameras and i'll show you just how easily i can
bend it or otherwise damage it.

nothing is immune to abuse.

BTW I am still waiting for you to show an example of where I bashed Apple.

claiming the iphones bend when they don't.

Just where did I make tht claim.

at various points in this thread.

Now you;re reqlly squirming, as usual.

it ain't me who is squirming.


Your lack of specifics speaks volumes.


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PeterN

On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 16:44:52 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , PeterN
wrote:

BTW you have never defined normal use. I submit that the reason, is that
you cannotl or refuse to. .

define the legal concept of reasonable person test.

You used the expression. We ar entitled to know what you meant. You
failure to respond will be fairly taken to mean that you are again
talking out of your ass.

you can't be that stupid. stop being an argumentative asshole. normal
use is normal everyday use, not forcibly trying to bend it.

BTW I am still waiting for you to show an example of where I bashed Apple.

claiming the iphones bend when they don't.

But some of them have done when they failed the hip pocket test. We
all know that. Even you know that.

According to nospam, that is not normal use.

stop twisting what i said and phones did not fail the hip pocket test
unless the user intentionally sat in a way to bend it.

Now you are accusing those damaged their iPhones of doing it
deliberately!

Hilarious!!

again, over 100 million iphone 6/6+ have been sold and complaints about
bent phones have pretty much disappeared entirely.

It doesn't mean it's stopped happening just because the news media has
lost interest.

bendgate was a manufactured issue when the phone came out, and when
people realized that it was bull****, the bashers went on to hairgate,
another manufactured issue that was completely bogus (and stupid).

several years ago, it was antennagate, something that affects every
single phone ever made, yet only apple got bashed for it.

You know you can't defend that claim. Why did you make it? Just
consider the Motorola 'brick'.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

In article ,
Whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 4 March 2015 21:36:01 UTC, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 01:54:47 -0800 (PST), Whisky-dave
wrote:

On Tuesday, 3 March 2015 21:28:01 UTC, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 04:23:38 -0800 (PST), Whisky-dave
wrote:

--- snip ---

You don't have to know that the product was defective. You have
absolute liability to ensure that the product is safe.

What do you mean by safe ? Safe to who a baby , a teenager, al qaeda,
ISS
And you don't have the ensure it's safe, you can assume it's safe when
used in the way expected.

These are matters you can raise in your defence. But a manufacturer is
still responsible for ensuring his product does not injure people (not
necessarily the user).

No they do not.
They wouldn't sell many guns in the US if manufactuers had to ensure the
product didn't injure anyone. That goes for knives and cars and even
cameras.

If any of the objects you have just cited injure people it normally is
because of the actions of other people i.e. users. In that case it is
the users who are charged/prosecuted.

But if guns have a habit of unpredictably exploding in the users face
or cars unpredictably turn themself off and lock the steering, then
the manufacturer will be charged/prosecuted.

and tehy do get chraged or prosecuted for such thinbgs and why Aplpe didn;t
for the so called bending iPhone.

Did Apple ape LG, or was it the other way around? Memory failing should
upgrade now now now...
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teleportation kills

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

But some of them have done when they failed the hip pocket test. We
all know that. Even you know that.

According to nospam, that is not normal use.

stop twisting what i said and phones did not fail the hip pocket test
unless the user intentionally sat in a way to bend it.

Now you are accusing those damaged their iPhones of doing it
deliberately!

Hilarious!!

some of them, absolutely.

http://i0.wp.com/cdn.bgr.com/2014/09/iphone-6-plus-bend-video.png?w=625

you can see just how intensely he's trying to bend it.

normal people don't do that.

again, over 100 million iphone 6/6+ have been sold and complaints about
bent phones have pretty much disappeared entirely.

It doesn't mean it's stopped happening just because the news media has
lost interest.

it was never an issue.

it was a manufactured issue that happened to go viral, and once people
realized it was bull****, another issue was manufactured, called
hairgate, where hair gets stuck in the seams of the iphone. that too
was quickly debunked.

i guarantee that there will be yet another made up issue with the apple
watch and another next year with the iphone 6s/6s+.

bendgate was a manufactured issue when the phone came out, and when
people realized that it was bull****, the bashers went on to hairgate,
another manufactured issue that was completely bogus (and stupid).

several years ago, it was antennagate, something that affects every
single phone ever made, yet only apple got bashed for it.

You know you can't defend that claim. Why did you make it? Just
consider the Motorola 'brick'.

i absolutely can defend that claim. it's pure physics.

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 02:34:37 -0800 (PST), Whisky-dave
wrote:

On Wednesday, 4 March 2015 21:36:01 UTC, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 01:54:47 -0800 (PST), Whisky-dave
wrote:

On Tuesday, 3 March 2015 21:28:01 UTC, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 04:23:38 -0800 (PST), Whisky-dave
wrote:

--- snip ---

You don't have to know that the product was defective. You have
absolute liability to ensure that the product is safe.

What do you mean by safe ? Safe to who a baby , a teenager, al qaeda, ISS
And you don't have the ensure it's safe, you can assume it's safe when used in the way expected.

These are matters you can raise in your defence. But a manufacturer is
still responsible for ensuring his product does not injure people (not
necessarily the user).

No they do not.
They wouldn't sell many guns in the US if manufactuers had to ensure the product didn't injure anyone. That goes for knives and cars and even cameras.

If any of the objects you have just cited injure people it normally is
because of the actions of other people i.e. users. In that case it is
the users who are charged/prosecuted.

But if guns have a habit of unpredictably exploding in the users face
or cars unpredictably turn themself off and lock the steering, then
the manufacturer will be charged/prosecuted.

and tehy do get chraged or prosecuted for such thinbgs and why Aplpe didn;t for the so called bending iPhone.

Did a bending phone hurt anyone?

[It may have if that was the cause of the fire which gave the user 3rd
degree burns on the leg.]

--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 16:18:36 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

But some of them have done when they failed the hip pocket test. We
all know that. Even you know that.

According to nospam, that is not normal use.

stop twisting what i said and phones did not fail the hip pocket test
unless the user intentionally sat in a way to bend it.

Now you are accusing those damaged their iPhones of doing it
deliberately!

Hilarious!!

some of them, absolutely.

http://i0.wp.com/cdn.bgr.com/2014/09/iphone-6-plus-bend-video.png?w=625

you can see just how intensely he's trying to bend it.

normal people don't do that.

again, over 100 million iphone 6/6+ have been sold and complaints about
bent phones have pretty much disappeared entirely.

It doesn't mean it's stopped happening just because the news media has
lost interest.

it was never an issue.

it was a manufactured issue that happened to go viral, and once people
realized it was bull****, another issue was manufactured, called
hairgate, where hair gets stuck in the seams of the iphone. that too
was quickly debunked.

i guarantee that there will be yet another made up issue with the apple
watch and another next year with the iphone 6s/6s+.

bendgate was a manufactured issue when the phone came out, and when
people realized that it was bull****, the bashers went on to hairgate,
another manufactured issue that was completely bogus (and stupid).

several years ago, it was antennagate, something that affects every
single phone ever made, yet only apple got bashed for it.

You know you can't defend that claim. Why did you make it? Just
consider the Motorola 'brick'.

i absolutely can defend that claim. it's pure physics.

You are evading the point. There is no doubt that taking hold of an
antenna will affect it's loading. In this case the Apple design meant
that people would take hold of the antenna in the worst possible way.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

bendgate was a manufactured issue when the phone came out, and when
people realized that it was bull****, the bashers went on to hairgate,
another manufactured issue that was completely bogus (and stupid).

several years ago, it was antennagate, something that affects every
single phone ever made, yet only apple got bashed for it.

You know you can't defend that claim. Why did you make it? Just
consider the Motorola 'brick'.

i absolutely can defend that claim. it's pure physics.

You are evading the point.

nope.

There is no doubt that taking hold of an
antenna will affect it's loading.

exactly!

all phones must obey the laws of physics.

In this case the Apple design meant
that people would take hold of the antenna in the worst possible way.

nope.

all phones have an area where you should not hold it. it is *not*
unique to apple.

nexus one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deCkjeHYT-g
blackberry 9650:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiZnF3FX4uM
blackberry curve 8900:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQdHsb1cj5M
nokia e71:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 00:30:18 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

bendgate was a manufactured issue when the phone came out, and when
people realized that it was bull****, the bashers went on to hairgate,
another manufactured issue that was completely bogus (and stupid).

several years ago, it was antennagate, something that affects every
single phone ever made, yet only apple got bashed for it.

You know you can't defend that claim. Why did you make it? Just
consider the Motorola 'brick'.

i absolutely can defend that claim. it's pure physics.

You are evading the point.

nope.

There is no doubt that taking hold of an
antenna will affect it's loading.

exactly!

all phones must obey the laws of physics.

In this case the Apple design meant
that people would take hold of the antenna in the worst possible way.

nope.

all phones have an area where you should not hold it. it is *not*
unique to apple.

But Apple put it (on one iPhone) where many people instinctively took
hold of the phone.

I don't know why you should have brought this up. I think you are some
kind of Apple basher.

nexus one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deCkjeHYT-g
blackberry 9650:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiZnF3FX4uM
blackberry curve 8900:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQdHsb1cj5M
nokia e71:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

There is no doubt that taking hold of an
antenna will affect it's loading.

exactly!

all phones must obey the laws of physics.

In this case the Apple design meant
that people would take hold of the antenna in the worst possible way.

nope.

all phones have an area where you should not hold it. it is *not*
unique to apple.

But Apple put it (on one iPhone) where many people instinctively took
hold of the phone.

nonsense. apple designed it where they thought it would work the best.

it was a completely new design than anything that came before it and
only needed some minor tweaking in later models to address some minor
issues and nowhere near as much as antennagate made it out to be.

every other phone is similarly affected by holding it wrong, and in
some cases, much worse than with the iphone.

apple can't get around the laws of physics.

I don't know why you should have brought this up. I think you are some
kind of Apple basher.

i brought it up as yet another example of people bashing apple while
giving a free pass to other companies doing *exactly* the same thing,
such as these:


nexus one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deCkjeHYT-g
blackberry 9650:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiZnF3FX4uM
blackberry curve 8900:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQdHsb1cj5M
nokia e71:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 04:13:04 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

There is no doubt that taking hold of an
antenna will affect it's loading.

exactly!

all phones must obey the laws of physics.

In this case the Apple design meant
that people would take hold of the antenna in the worst possible way.

nope.

all phones have an area where you should not hold it. it is *not*
unique to apple.

But Apple put it (on one iPhone) where many people instinctively took
hold of the phone.

nonsense. apple designed it where they thought it would work the best.

And it worked best where many people instictively took hold of the
phone.

it was a completely new design than anything that came before it and
only needed some minor tweaking in later models to address some minor
issues and nowhere near as much as antennagate made it out to be.

every other phone is similarly affected by holding it wrong, and in
some cases, much worse than with the iphone.

apple can't get around the laws of physics.

I don't know why you should have brought this up. I think you are some
kind of Apple basher.

i brought it up as yet another example of people bashing apple while
giving a free pass to other companies doing *exactly* the same thing,
such as these:


nexus one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deCkjeHYT-g
blackberry 9650:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiZnF3FX4uM
blackberry curve 8900:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQdHsb1cj5M
nokia e71:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens