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Old April 22nd 12, 09:04 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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Default Nikon D800 versus Canon 5D Mark III - the clear winner is ... [DxO Labs]


"Alan Browne" wrote in message
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On 2012-04-21 12:12 , nospam wrote:
In articlex72dncGJI5LmTg_SnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@giganews. com, Alan Browne
wrote:

"$99,000 for the 1200mm Canon used"

I have three 1200mm Canon lenses for my 500+ Canon FX cameras, and
the
most I paid for any one was about $3000. About 10% of that was
shipping
and US Customs fees.

bull****.

Although if you do have an authoritative valuation of $99K for the
lens,
that would be great, It would more than double the value of my
collection.

canon, and it won't.

"Bull****"?
I'm not the one hiding behind a fake email address. You have sufficient
information to find me on Facebook and read about my Canon FX
collection:
500+ camera bodies and 800+ lenses; one or more of every lens that
Canon

nospam is referring to the Canon 1200mm f/5.6 of which there are less
than 20 in the world and most are leased to qualified lessors. The
purchase price was about $115,000 last time I looked.

If you have one, I'd be quite surprised.


don't forget he said he had not one, but *three* of them.


I suspect he's referring to something else.



He didn't say they were the f5.6. Didn't Canon also make a slower one? If
so, presumably cheaper and sold in greater numbers, as is usual for fast Vs
slow tele's.

Trevor.


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Old April 22nd 12, 03:15 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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Default Nikon D800 versus Canon 5D Mark III - the clear winner is ... [DxO Labs]

On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:37:33 -0700 (PDT), Helen
wrote:

On Apr 20, 12:27*pm, "K W Hart" wrote:
"Bruce" wrote in message

news
Helen wrote:
I'm not into video, my focus is still photography. *What Canon camera
would you or anyone else for that matter, recommend?


The D800.


I find the Canon FX system from the 1960's to be a pretty solid performer. I
especially like the 1200mm lens; of course a sturdy tripod is essential.


Yes, I agree, but I was talking about Canon's newest line of DSLRs.


The 5D III is still an excellent camera. But, like all tools, you need
to learn it's limitations and live within them. I'm keeping my 5D II
for the time being.
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Old April 22nd 12, 10:31 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On 2012-04-22 04:04 , Trevor wrote:
"Alan wrote in message
...
On 2012-04-21 12:12 , nospam wrote:
In articlex72dncGJI5LmTg_SnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@giganews. com, Alan Browne
wrote:

"$99,000 for the 1200mm Canon used"

I have three 1200mm Canon lenses for my 500+ Canon FX cameras, and
the
most I paid for any one was about $3000. About 10% of that was
shipping
and US Customs fees.

bull****.

Although if you do have an authoritative valuation of $99K for the
lens,
that would be great, It would more than double the value of my
collection.

canon, and it won't.

"Bull****"?
I'm not the one hiding behind a fake email address. You have sufficient
information to find me on Facebook and read about my Canon FX
collection:
500+ camera bodies and 800+ lenses; one or more of every lens that
Canon

nospam is referring to the Canon 1200mm f/5.6 of which there are less
than 20 in the world and most are leased to qualified lessors. The
purchase price was about $115,000 last time I looked.

If you have one, I'd be quite surprised.

don't forget he said he had not one, but *three* of them.


I suspect he's referring to something else.



He didn't say they were the f5.6. Didn't Canon also make a slower one? If
so, presumably cheaper and sold in greater numbers, as is usual for fast Vs
slow tele's.


In the end that was it - Rich side tracked it to the famous f/5.6.


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I said I didn't know."
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Old April 24th 12, 01:03 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Apr 22, 10:15 am, Bowser wrote:
The 5D III is still an excellent camera. But, like all tools, .......


.... Some are better value than others. And of course that depends on who's
doing the evaluation.
On the evidence so far, (if I wasn't invested in Canon equipment) I'd
certainly buy the Nikon over the Canon however.
I *won't* be buying a 5D3 though, just not enough to justify an upgrade, or
the extra money over the 5D2 IMO.

Trevor.


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Old April 24th 12, 02:01 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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"Trevor" wrote in message ...

I *won't* be buying a 5D3 though, just not enough to justify an upgrade, or
the extra money over the 5D2 IMO.


Compared to the wish lists for the 5D3 that filled the dpreview forums prior
to it's release, I'd say Canon hit the vast majority of what people were
asking for, mainly burst rate and pro-level AF. There really was an
incredible amount of complaining that the 5D2 wasn't a cheap 1-series
camera. Canon even improved shadow pattern noise about a stop, but not
enough to stop the squawking. (In real life here, both 5D and 5D2 ISO 100
and 200 images can't be boosted 2 stops without getting washed out; pattern
noise isn't the problem.)

So for the vociferous complainers, the 5D3 is exactly what they wanted.

But for landscape wannabes such as myself, the D800 is what we wanted. Sigh.
Good show, Nikon.

Still, the 5D2 remains an amazing camera, if you actually make prints. It's
significantly better than 645 film, even with the very best films (Velvia,
TMX100). And it should be a lot of fun with the new 24-70/2.8 II, whose MTF
charts indicate that it's the first zoom that actually competes with primes.

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Old April 24th 12, 02:12 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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"David J. Littleboy" wrote in message
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So for the vociferous complainers, the 5D3 is exactly what they wanted.


Perhaps, and everyone else, especially those not already welded to Canon,
will probably buy the Nikon instead. I doubt that will make Canon very
happy.

But for landscape wannabes such as myself, the D800 is what we wanted.
Sigh. Good show, Nikon.

Still, the 5D2 remains an amazing camera, if you actually make prints.
It's significantly better than 645 film, even with the very best films
(Velvia, TMX100). And it should be a lot of fun with the new 24-70/2.8 II,
whose MTF charts indicate that it's the first zoom that actually competes
with primes.



Exactly, and the price difference between what the 5D2 and 5D3 are now
selling for, makes it hard to justify a 5D3 if money is any consideration at
all. One shop here is selling a 5D2 with 24-105L lens for less than the 5D3
body alone.
I wonder how long before Canon is forced to drop the price of the 5D3? I
thank Nikon for that eventuality at least! :-)

Trevor.


 




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