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  #21  
Old March 28th 17, 11:51 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default What comes after Dropbox?

On 28/03/2017 22:26, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 13:50:29 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

On 28/03/2017 02:43, philo wrote:
On 03/27/2017 05:49 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
I've been using Dropbox quite satisfactorily, for several years, to
provide links to photographs I want to post to the Internet. Now they
have changed the way they work and I am not atll satisfied with either
the way they work or what they seem to do to images.

I have one image which I have been trying to post in response to an
article by Savageduck in which we were discussing a collection of
landscape photographs. All I can manage with Dropbox is coarse
fine-detail and obvious color banding in the sky.

I know there are various ways in which I can replace Dropbox but it
will take me a long time to explore them all. I would be grateful for
any suggestions as to the best way I can go about replacing Dropbox.




Dropbox works fine for me but some folks say it takes a while for the
images to load


This is one of my favorite images I've saved there!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0

It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality?


Hi Eric!

It looks good on mine too.


Phew! :-)

When did you send it to Dropbox?


I'm not certain, but the date given by Dropbox is August 16, 2014

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  #22  
Old March 29th 17, 12:41 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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David B.:
This is one of my favorite images I've saved there!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0

It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality?


Looks fine. Cute doggie.

One of the advantages of Dropbox (and perhaps others) over Flickr is
file-name preservation. I downloaded your photo and it has the name
"Marley in hamock.jpg." Download one of my photos from Flickr and it
has a name like "33187521331_74787ac976_o.jpg," which is NOT the name I
gave it.

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  #23  
Old March 29th 17, 07:29 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article ,
Eric Stevens wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 18:03:04 +0200, android wrote:

In article ,
"David B." wrote:

On 28/03/2017 13:57, android wrote:
In article ,
"David B." wrote:

On 28/03/2017 02:43, philo wrote:
On 03/27/2017 05:49 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
I've been using Dropbox quite satisfactorily, for several years, to
provide links to photographs I want to post to the Internet. Now they
have changed the way they work and I am not atll satisfied with either
the way they work or what they seem to do to images.

I have one image which I have been trying to post in response to an
article by Savageduck in which we were discussing a collection of
landscape photographs. All I can manage with Dropbox is coarse
fine-detail and obvious color banding in the sky.

I know there are various ways in which I can replace Dropbox but it
will take me a long time to explore them all. I would be grateful for
any suggestions as to the best way I can go about replacing Dropbox.




Dropbox works fine for me but some folks say it takes a while for the
images to load

This is one of my favorite images I've saved there!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0

It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality?

As expected. Marley looks fine and, well the colors of the hammock is
your choice...

That's good to learn ..... yet Marley is my son's dog, as is the
hammock! I suspect the latter was bought in the USA when my son was
serving there!

How would DB change the pictures appearance without
parsing and altering the file?


^^^Retorical question!^^^

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rhetorical


I might have a play with GIMP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP

Is there a better way?


Why are you asking for a bitmap editor recommendation? Dropbox won't
alter your files.


That's exactly what I am complaining about. Of recent days it does
seem to be altering my image files. I suspect they will remain intact
on the Dropbox server for downloading as a file but they are
definitely downgraded when they open in the Dropbox application which
displays them to you.


What colorspace do you use? Other then sRGB can cause confusion for
internet users without colorspace aware browsers. Some, like Firefox
need to have that enabled.

http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/
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Old March 29th 17, 08:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 08:29:51 +0200, android wrote:

In article ,
Eric Stevens wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 18:03:04 +0200, android wrote:

In article ,
"David B." wrote:

On 28/03/2017 13:57, android wrote:
In article ,
"David B." wrote:

On 28/03/2017 02:43, philo wrote:
On 03/27/2017 05:49 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
I've been using Dropbox quite satisfactorily, for several years, to
provide links to photographs I want to post to the Internet. Now they
have changed the way they work and I am not atll satisfied with either
the way they work or what they seem to do to images.

I have one image which I have been trying to post in response to an
article by Savageduck in which we were discussing a collection of
landscape photographs. All I can manage with Dropbox is coarse
fine-detail and obvious color banding in the sky.

I know there are various ways in which I can replace Dropbox but it
will take me a long time to explore them all. I would be grateful for
any suggestions as to the best way I can go about replacing Dropbox.




Dropbox works fine for me but some folks say it takes a while for the
images to load

This is one of my favorite images I've saved there!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0

It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality?

As expected. Marley looks fine and, well the colors of the hammock is
your choice...

That's good to learn ..... yet Marley is my son's dog, as is the
hammock! I suspect the latter was bought in the USA when my son was
serving there!

How would DB change the pictures appearance without
parsing and altering the file?

^^^Retorical question!^^^

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rhetorical


I might have a play with GIMP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP

Is there a better way?

Why are you asking for a bitmap editor recommendation? Dropbox won't
alter your files.


That's exactly what I am complaining about. Of recent days it does
seem to be altering my image files. I suspect they will remain intact
on the Dropbox server for downloading as a file but they are
definitely downgraded when they open in the Dropbox application which
displays them to you.


What colorspace do you use? Other then sRGB can cause confusion for
internet users without colorspace aware browsers. Some, like Firefox
need to have that enabled.

http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/


This is not a color space problem (all my posts for the Internet use
sRGB). It's a problem of smooth surfaces showing as having a texture
of a gravel road. Also the appreance of color-banding appearing in
what were smoothly graduated skys. Everything points to Dropbox using
less than satisfactory techniques to compress images for viewing.
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  #25  
Old March 29th 17, 09:30 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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Eric Stevens Wrote in message:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 08:29:51 +0200, android wrote:

In article ,
Eric Stevens wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 18:03:04 +0200, android wrote:

In article ,
"David B." wrote:

On 28/03/2017 13:57, android wrote:
In article ,
"David B." wrote:

On 28/03/2017 02:43, philo wrote:
On 03/27/2017 05:49 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
I've been using Dropbox quite satisfactorily, for several years, to
provide links to photographs I want to post to the Internet. Now they
have changed the way they work and I am not atll satisfied with either
the way they work or what they seem to do to images.

I have one image which I have been trying to post in response to an
article by Savageduck in which we were discussing a collection of
landscape photographs. All I can manage with Dropbox is coarse
fine-detail and obvious color banding in the sky.

I know there are various ways in which I can replace Dropbox but it
will take me a long time to explore them all. I would be grateful for
any suggestions as to the best way I can go about replacing Dropbox.




Dropbox works fine for me but some folks say it takes a while for the
images to load

This is one of my favorite images I've saved there!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0

It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality?

As expected. Marley looks fine and, well the colors of the hammock is
your choice...

That's good to learn ..... yet Marley is my son's dog, as is the
hammock! I suspect the latter was bought in the USA when my son was
serving there!

How would DB change the pictures appearance without
parsing and altering the file?

^^^Retorical question!^^^

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rhetorical


I might have a play with GIMP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP

Is there a better way?

Why are you asking for a bitmap editor recommendation? Dropbox won't
alter your files.

That's exactly what I am complaining about. Of recent days it does
seem to be altering my image files. I suspect they will remain intact
on the Dropbox server for downloading as a file but they are
definitely downgraded when they open in the Dropbox application which
displays them to you.


What colorspace do you use? Other then sRGB can cause confusion for
internet users without colorspace aware browsers. Some, like Firefox
need to have that enabled.

http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/


This is not a color space problem (all my posts for the Internet use
sRGB). It's a problem of smooth surfaces showing as having a texture
of a gravel road. Also the appreance of color-banding appearing in
what were smoothly graduated skys. Everything points to Dropbox using
less than satisfactory techniques to compress images for viewing.


Have you draged the file directly from the browser to the desktop
and opened it a viewer app, like Preview on the Mac?
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  #26  
Old March 29th 17, 10:40 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 29/03/2017 00:41, Davoud wrote:
David B.:
This is one of my favorite images I've saved there!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0

It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality?


Looks fine. Cute doggie.


Great to hear that! :-)

One of the advantages of Dropbox (and perhaps others) over Flickr is
file-name preservation. I downloaded your photo and it has the name
"Marley in hamock.jpg." Download one of my photos from Flickr and it
has a name like "33187521331_74787ac976_o.jpg," which is NOT the name I
gave it.


An interesting observation. Thanks.

Oops! Sorry about the poor spelling! (Now corrected on the original)

Have you ever been involved in discussion regarding 'Copyright' of
pictures/photographs put out on the Internet?

Do you feel that you have _stolen_ my photograph? If you now sold it to
be published on the front cover of an International magazine, could I
sue you?

Personally, I feel that if someone fails to 'watermark' a photograph,
proving without doubt that it belongs to them, then I consider it
becomes "up for grabs" by anyone wishing to download a copy.

I'd welcome YOUR views on this matter.

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Old March 29th 17, 11:36 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Davoud Wrote in message:
David B.:
This is one of my favorite images I've saved there!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0

It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality?


Looks fine. Cute doggie.

One of the advantages of Dropbox (and perhaps others) over Flickr is
file-name preservation. I downloaded your photo and it has the name
"Marley in hamock.jpg." Download one of my photos from Flickr and it
has a name like "33187521331_74787ac976_o.jpg," which is NOT the name I
gave it.

I don't think that Flickr was intended to be a mere fileserver
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Old March 29th 17, 04:01 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 29/03/2017 15:41, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 10:40:39 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

On 29/03/2017 00:41, Davoud wrote:
David B.:
This is one of my favorite images I've saved there!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0

It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality?

Looks fine. Cute doggie.


Great to hear that! :-)

One of the advantages of Dropbox (and perhaps others) over Flickr is
file-name preservation. I downloaded your photo and it has the name
"Marley in hamock.jpg." Download one of my photos from Flickr and it
has a name like "33187521331_74787ac976_o.jpg," which is NOT the name I
gave it.


An interesting observation. Thanks.

Oops! Sorry about the poor spelling! (Now corrected on the original)

Have you ever been involved in discussion regarding 'Copyright' of
pictures/photographs put out on the Internet?

Do you feel that you have _stolen_ my photograph? If you now sold it to
be published on the front cover of an International magazine, could I
sue you?

Personally, I feel that if someone fails to 'watermark' a photograph,
proving without doubt that it belongs to them, then I consider it
becomes "up for grabs" by anyone wishing to download a copy.

I'd welcome YOUR views on this matter.


If you welcome other views, then I'll contribute. The presence or
absence of a watermark has nothing at all to do with another person's
ability or right to download that image.

It's what that person does with the download that matters. The idea
of a watermark is prevent other people from using that image without
either paying for the image or crediting the photographer. It doesn't
forestall downloading or even discourage it.

Your comment above about selling the photograph has nothing to do with
the watermark, either. As a photographer, you have the copyright on
that photo whether or not you watermark it, add the copyright info to
the photo or the file, or whatever. Someone appropriating that photo
and using it for their gain is in violation of your copyright.

You *can* sue them, but it's very problematical if you would be
successful from a financial point of view. You would be more likely
to be successful if you have registered your copyright even though it
is not necessary to register your copyright in order to hold it.
Your best alternative is to ask for a "take down" or acknowledgement
of your copyright.

Back in the old days, when you had photographs taken by a studio
photographer you were furnished with a set of photographs with PROOF
in a large open-face type across the photo. Those were yours to keep,
but if you wanted photographs without PROOF on them, you had to buy
them. That's the same concept as the watermark.

What is unethical is removing a watermark in Photoshop or in a similar
editing program. Still, that's not illegal if you merely retain that
image for your own use.

I admit to removing PROOF from some scans of old family photographs.
They are the only copies that were available to me, and the studios
are long out of business.


Thank you so much for your interesting comments, Tony.

I agree that folk are doing nothing wrong simply by downloading an image
from the Internet.

Views from other folk are welcome!

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  #29  
Old March 29th 17, 04:17 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 28/03/2017 15:01, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-03-28 13:37:40 +0000, "David B."
said:

On 28/03/2017 13:57, android wrote:
In article ,
"David B." wrote:

On 28/03/2017 02:43, philo wrote:
On 03/27/2017 05:49 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
I've been using Dropbox quite satisfactorily, for several years, to
provide links to photographs I want to post to the Internet. Now they
have changed the way they work and I am not atll satisfied with
either
the way they work or what they seem to do to images.

I have one image which I have been trying to post in response to an
article by Savageduck in which we were discussing a collection of
landscape photographs. All I can manage with Dropbox is coarse
fine-detail and obvious color banding in the sky.

I know there are various ways in which I can replace Dropbox but it
will take me a long time to explore them all. I would be grateful for
any suggestions as to the best way I can go about replacing Dropbox.




Dropbox works fine for me but some folks say it takes a while for the
images to load

This is one of my favorite images I've saved there!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0

It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality?

As expected. Marley looks fine and, well the colors of the hammock is
your choice...


That's good to learn ..... yet Marley is my son's dog, as is the
hammock! I suspect the latter was bought in the USA when my son was
serving there!

How would DB change the pictures appearance without
parsing and altering the file?


I might have a play with GIMP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP

Is there a better way?


It looks as though you are using a Mac, so my suggestion is to take a
look at either Luminar or Affinity Photo. Either one is less of a
headache than GIMP and both work very well on a Mac without going to the
Adobe subscription model. There is also Pixelmator to consider.


I do, indeed, use a 24" iMac, albeit it's getting a bit
long-in-the-tooth nowadays! I was rather disappointed when I discovered
that I could not upgrade to Sierra because my hardware is now "too old"!

https://macphun.com/luminar
https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/
http://www.pixelmator.com


I really appreciate this information, Savageduck. I shall explore at
each link as and when time allows.

Thank you! :-)

I don't understand why 'android' now says his question was rhetorical.
Do YOU have any idea what he was getting at?

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Old March 29th 17, 04:36 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , David B.
wrote:


I agree that folk are doing nothing wrong simply by downloading an image
from the Internet.


the internet wouldn't work if they couldn't.

keeping what they download is entirely another story.
 




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