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What comes after Dropbox?
On 28/03/2017 22:26, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 13:50:29 +0100, "David B." wrote: On 28/03/2017 02:43, philo wrote: On 03/27/2017 05:49 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: I've been using Dropbox quite satisfactorily, for several years, to provide links to photographs I want to post to the Internet. Now they have changed the way they work and I am not atll satisfied with either the way they work or what they seem to do to images. I have one image which I have been trying to post in response to an article by Savageduck in which we were discussing a collection of landscape photographs. All I can manage with Dropbox is coarse fine-detail and obvious color banding in the sky. I know there are various ways in which I can replace Dropbox but it will take me a long time to explore them all. I would be grateful for any suggestions as to the best way I can go about replacing Dropbox. Dropbox works fine for me but some folks say it takes a while for the images to load This is one of my favorite images I've saved there! https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0 It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality? Hi Eric! It looks good on mine too. Phew! :-) When did you send it to Dropbox? I'm not certain, but the date given by Dropbox is August 16, 2014 -- "Do something wonderful, people may imitate it." (Albert Schweitzer) |
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What comes after Dropbox?
David B.:
This is one of my favorite images I've saved there! https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0 It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality? Looks fine. Cute doggie. One of the advantages of Dropbox (and perhaps others) over Flickr is file-name preservation. I downloaded your photo and it has the name "Marley in hamock.jpg." Download one of my photos from Flickr and it has a name like "33187521331_74787ac976_o.jpg," which is NOT the name I gave it. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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What comes after Dropbox?
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Eric Stevens wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 18:03:04 +0200, android wrote: In article , "David B." wrote: On 28/03/2017 13:57, android wrote: In article , "David B." wrote: On 28/03/2017 02:43, philo wrote: On 03/27/2017 05:49 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: I've been using Dropbox quite satisfactorily, for several years, to provide links to photographs I want to post to the Internet. Now they have changed the way they work and I am not atll satisfied with either the way they work or what they seem to do to images. I have one image which I have been trying to post in response to an article by Savageduck in which we were discussing a collection of landscape photographs. All I can manage with Dropbox is coarse fine-detail and obvious color banding in the sky. I know there are various ways in which I can replace Dropbox but it will take me a long time to explore them all. I would be grateful for any suggestions as to the best way I can go about replacing Dropbox. Dropbox works fine for me but some folks say it takes a while for the images to load This is one of my favorite images I've saved there! https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0 It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality? As expected. Marley looks fine and, well the colors of the hammock is your choice... That's good to learn ..... yet Marley is my son's dog, as is the hammock! I suspect the latter was bought in the USA when my son was serving there! How would DB change the pictures appearance without parsing and altering the file? ^^^Retorical question!^^^ http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rhetorical I might have a play with GIMP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP Is there a better way? Why are you asking for a bitmap editor recommendation? Dropbox won't alter your files. That's exactly what I am complaining about. Of recent days it does seem to be altering my image files. I suspect they will remain intact on the Dropbox server for downloading as a file but they are definitely downgraded when they open in the Dropbox application which displays them to you. What colorspace do you use? Other then sRGB can cause confusion for internet users without colorspace aware browsers. Some, like Firefox need to have that enabled. http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/ -- teleportation kills |
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What comes after Dropbox?
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 08:29:51 +0200, android wrote:
In article , Eric Stevens wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 18:03:04 +0200, android wrote: In article , "David B." wrote: On 28/03/2017 13:57, android wrote: In article , "David B." wrote: On 28/03/2017 02:43, philo wrote: On 03/27/2017 05:49 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: I've been using Dropbox quite satisfactorily, for several years, to provide links to photographs I want to post to the Internet. Now they have changed the way they work and I am not atll satisfied with either the way they work or what they seem to do to images. I have one image which I have been trying to post in response to an article by Savageduck in which we were discussing a collection of landscape photographs. All I can manage with Dropbox is coarse fine-detail and obvious color banding in the sky. I know there are various ways in which I can replace Dropbox but it will take me a long time to explore them all. I would be grateful for any suggestions as to the best way I can go about replacing Dropbox. Dropbox works fine for me but some folks say it takes a while for the images to load This is one of my favorite images I've saved there! https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0 It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality? As expected. Marley looks fine and, well the colors of the hammock is your choice... That's good to learn ..... yet Marley is my son's dog, as is the hammock! I suspect the latter was bought in the USA when my son was serving there! How would DB change the pictures appearance without parsing and altering the file? ^^^Retorical question!^^^ http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rhetorical I might have a play with GIMP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP Is there a better way? Why are you asking for a bitmap editor recommendation? Dropbox won't alter your files. That's exactly what I am complaining about. Of recent days it does seem to be altering my image files. I suspect they will remain intact on the Dropbox server for downloading as a file but they are definitely downgraded when they open in the Dropbox application which displays them to you. What colorspace do you use? Other then sRGB can cause confusion for internet users without colorspace aware browsers. Some, like Firefox need to have that enabled. http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/ This is not a color space problem (all my posts for the Internet use sRGB). It's a problem of smooth surfaces showing as having a texture of a gravel road. Also the appreance of color-banding appearing in what were smoothly graduated skys. Everything points to Dropbox using less than satisfactory techniques to compress images for viewing. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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What comes after Dropbox?
Eric Stevens Wrote in message:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 08:29:51 +0200, android wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 18:03:04 +0200, android wrote: In article , "David B." wrote: On 28/03/2017 13:57, android wrote: In article , "David B." wrote: On 28/03/2017 02:43, philo wrote: On 03/27/2017 05:49 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: I've been using Dropbox quite satisfactorily, for several years, to provide links to photographs I want to post to the Internet. Now they have changed the way they work and I am not atll satisfied with either the way they work or what they seem to do to images. I have one image which I have been trying to post in response to an article by Savageduck in which we were discussing a collection of landscape photographs. All I can manage with Dropbox is coarse fine-detail and obvious color banding in the sky. I know there are various ways in which I can replace Dropbox but it will take me a long time to explore them all. I would be grateful for any suggestions as to the best way I can go about replacing Dropbox. Dropbox works fine for me but some folks say it takes a while for the images to load This is one of my favorite images I've saved there! https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0 It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality? As expected. Marley looks fine and, well the colors of the hammock is your choice... That's good to learn ..... yet Marley is my son's dog, as is the hammock! I suspect the latter was bought in the USA when my son was serving there! How would DB change the pictures appearance without parsing and altering the file? ^^^Retorical question!^^^ http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rhetorical I might have a play with GIMP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP Is there a better way? Why are you asking for a bitmap editor recommendation? Dropbox won't alter your files. That's exactly what I am complaining about. Of recent days it does seem to be altering my image files. I suspect they will remain intact on the Dropbox server for downloading as a file but they are definitely downgraded when they open in the Dropbox application which displays them to you. What colorspace do you use? Other then sRGB can cause confusion for internet users without colorspace aware browsers. Some, like Firefox need to have that enabled. http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/ This is not a color space problem (all my posts for the Internet use sRGB). It's a problem of smooth surfaces showing as having a texture of a gravel road. Also the appreance of color-banding appearing in what were smoothly graduated skys. Everything points to Dropbox using less than satisfactory techniques to compress images for viewing. Have you draged the file directly from the browser to the desktop and opened it a viewer app, like Preview on the Mac? -- Bats can't tell us apart! ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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What comes after Dropbox?
On 29/03/2017 00:41, Davoud wrote:
David B.: This is one of my favorite images I've saved there! https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0 It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality? Looks fine. Cute doggie. Great to hear that! :-) One of the advantages of Dropbox (and perhaps others) over Flickr is file-name preservation. I downloaded your photo and it has the name "Marley in hamock.jpg." Download one of my photos from Flickr and it has a name like "33187521331_74787ac976_o.jpg," which is NOT the name I gave it. An interesting observation. Thanks. Oops! Sorry about the poor spelling! (Now corrected on the original) Have you ever been involved in discussion regarding 'Copyright' of pictures/photographs put out on the Internet? Do you feel that you have _stolen_ my photograph? If you now sold it to be published on the front cover of an International magazine, could I sue you? Personally, I feel that if someone fails to 'watermark' a photograph, proving without doubt that it belongs to them, then I consider it becomes "up for grabs" by anyone wishing to download a copy. I'd welcome YOUR views on this matter. -- David B. |
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What comes after Dropbox?
Davoud Wrote in message:
David B.: This is one of my favorite images I've saved there! https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0 It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality? Looks fine. Cute doggie. One of the advantages of Dropbox (and perhaps others) over Flickr is file-name preservation. I downloaded your photo and it has the name "Marley in hamock.jpg." Download one of my photos from Flickr and it has a name like "33187521331_74787ac976_o.jpg," which is NOT the name I gave it. I don't think that Flickr was intended to be a mere fileserver -- Bats can't tell us apart! ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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What comes after Dropbox?
On 29/03/2017 15:41, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 10:40:39 +0100, "David B." wrote: On 29/03/2017 00:41, Davoud wrote: David B.: This is one of my favorite images I've saved there! https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0 It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality? Looks fine. Cute doggie. Great to hear that! :-) One of the advantages of Dropbox (and perhaps others) over Flickr is file-name preservation. I downloaded your photo and it has the name "Marley in hamock.jpg." Download one of my photos from Flickr and it has a name like "33187521331_74787ac976_o.jpg," which is NOT the name I gave it. An interesting observation. Thanks. Oops! Sorry about the poor spelling! (Now corrected on the original) Have you ever been involved in discussion regarding 'Copyright' of pictures/photographs put out on the Internet? Do you feel that you have _stolen_ my photograph? If you now sold it to be published on the front cover of an International magazine, could I sue you? Personally, I feel that if someone fails to 'watermark' a photograph, proving without doubt that it belongs to them, then I consider it becomes "up for grabs" by anyone wishing to download a copy. I'd welcome YOUR views on this matter. If you welcome other views, then I'll contribute. The presence or absence of a watermark has nothing at all to do with another person's ability or right to download that image. It's what that person does with the download that matters. The idea of a watermark is prevent other people from using that image without either paying for the image or crediting the photographer. It doesn't forestall downloading or even discourage it. Your comment above about selling the photograph has nothing to do with the watermark, either. As a photographer, you have the copyright on that photo whether or not you watermark it, add the copyright info to the photo or the file, or whatever. Someone appropriating that photo and using it for their gain is in violation of your copyright. You *can* sue them, but it's very problematical if you would be successful from a financial point of view. You would be more likely to be successful if you have registered your copyright even though it is not necessary to register your copyright in order to hold it. Your best alternative is to ask for a "take down" or acknowledgement of your copyright. Back in the old days, when you had photographs taken by a studio photographer you were furnished with a set of photographs with PROOF in a large open-face type across the photo. Those were yours to keep, but if you wanted photographs without PROOF on them, you had to buy them. That's the same concept as the watermark. What is unethical is removing a watermark in Photoshop or in a similar editing program. Still, that's not illegal if you merely retain that image for your own use. I admit to removing PROOF from some scans of old family photographs. They are the only copies that were available to me, and the studios are long out of business. Thank you so much for your interesting comments, Tony. I agree that folk are doing nothing wrong simply by downloading an image from the Internet. Views from other folk are welcome! -- "Do something wonderful, people may imitate it." (Albert Schweitzer) |
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What comes after Dropbox?
On 28/03/2017 15:01, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-03-28 13:37:40 +0000, "David B." said: On 28/03/2017 13:57, android wrote: In article , "David B." wrote: On 28/03/2017 02:43, philo wrote: On 03/27/2017 05:49 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: I've been using Dropbox quite satisfactorily, for several years, to provide links to photographs I want to post to the Internet. Now they have changed the way they work and I am not atll satisfied with either the way they work or what they seem to do to images. I have one image which I have been trying to post in response to an article by Savageduck in which we were discussing a collection of landscape photographs. All I can manage with Dropbox is coarse fine-detail and obvious color banding in the sky. I know there are various ways in which I can replace Dropbox but it will take me a long time to explore them all. I would be grateful for any suggestions as to the best way I can go about replacing Dropbox. Dropbox works fine for me but some folks say it takes a while for the images to load This is one of my favorite images I've saved there! https://www.dropbox.com/s/b55p0t1fio...amock.jpg?dl=0 It looks good on MY machine. What do others think of the quality? As expected. Marley looks fine and, well the colors of the hammock is your choice... That's good to learn ..... yet Marley is my son's dog, as is the hammock! I suspect the latter was bought in the USA when my son was serving there! How would DB change the pictures appearance without parsing and altering the file? I might have a play with GIMP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP Is there a better way? It looks as though you are using a Mac, so my suggestion is to take a look at either Luminar or Affinity Photo. Either one is less of a headache than GIMP and both work very well on a Mac without going to the Adobe subscription model. There is also Pixelmator to consider. I do, indeed, use a 24" iMac, albeit it's getting a bit long-in-the-tooth nowadays! I was rather disappointed when I discovered that I could not upgrade to Sierra because my hardware is now "too old"! https://macphun.com/luminar https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ http://www.pixelmator.com I really appreciate this information, Savageduck. I shall explore at each link as and when time allows. Thank you! :-) I don't understand why 'android' now says his question was rhetorical. Do YOU have any idea what he was getting at? -- David B. |
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What comes after Dropbox?
In article , David B.
wrote: I agree that folk are doing nothing wrong simply by downloading an image from the Internet. the internet wouldn't work if they couldn't. keeping what they download is entirely another story. |
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