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Apple played digital liberal nanny-stater, now faces several lawsuits
In article , PeterN
wrote: If I was the target market, my iPhone would have a built in, or available oximeter. and it does. here's one (there may be others): http://lgtmedical.com/kenek/edge.html there are also apps that claim to do it. they're not as accurate, but they're also *much* cheaper than a medical device. here's one such app (there may be others): https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/puls...-and-oxygen-mo nitor-app/id775632066?mt=8 the apple watch monitors resting heart rate and during workouts, but it currently does not have a pulse oximeter even though the hardware can do it. perhaps it's a certification issue. it's coming. I know. For me the pulse oximeter is an important medical issue. I have been using on for almost a year. Total cost $50. I don't know if it as accurate as the Apple, apple doesn't make a pulse oximeter. third parties do that. but I will look into it, when it plugs directly into the watch. a pulse oximeter won't plug directly into the watch. that functionality will be part of the watch itself, checking your oxygen level as often as you deem necessary, as well as other vitals. there could also be a bluetooth version that talks to the watch. |
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Apple played digital liberal nanny-stater, now faces severallawsuits
On 1/1/2018 3:06 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN wrote: If I was the target market, my iPhone would have a built in, or available oximeter. and it does. here's one (there may be others): http://lgtmedical.com/kenek/edge.html there are also apps that claim to do it. they're not as accurate, but they're also *much* cheaper than a medical device. here's one such app (there may be others): https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/puls...-and-oxygen-mo nitor-app/id775632066?mt=8 the apple watch monitors resting heart rate and during workouts, but it currently does not have a pulse oximeter even though the hardware can do it. perhaps it's a certification issue. it's coming. I know. For me the pulse oximeter is an important medical issue. I have been using on for almost a year. Total cost $50. I don't know if it as accurate as the Apple, apple doesn't make a pulse oximeter. third parties do that. but I will look into it, when it plugs directly into the watch. a pulse oximeter won't plug directly into the watch. that functionality will be part of the watch itself, checking your oxygen level as often as you deem necessary, as well as other vitals. there could also be a bluetooth version that talks to the watch. Since the physical measurement device is not available for sale, it is vaporware, that I cannot rely on.. -- PeterN |
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Apple played digital liberal nanny-stater, now faces several lawsuits
"PeterN" wrote
| a pulse oximeter won't plug directly into the watch. | | that functionality will be part of the watch itself, checking your | oxygen level as often as you deem necessary, as well as other vitals. | | there could also be a bluetooth version that talks to the watch. | | | Since the physical measurement device is not available for sale, it is | vaporware, that I cannot rely on.. | It's all a joke. Look up accuracy reports. Apple watch accuracy is quite good as a heart rate monitor, as joke watch functions go. (It's still not very good and the whole idea is idiotic. But within that field it's tops. There's no reason to think that an oximeter "app" would work any better than the x-ray glasses one can buy from magazines to see fish under water and look through ladies dresses. Nospam just automatically spews something pro-Apple, given half a chance. If you say you want to buy a hot air balloon he'll probably come up with a balloon shopping app that's only available on iPhone. will it be relevant? no. Will it be factual? Probably not. He doesn't care. |
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Apple played digital liberal nanny-stater, now faces several lawsuits
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Savageduck wrote: it lists young kids, teenagers, college students and adults as the target market. in other words, everyone. Nope. Over 55 is a separate market. no age cutoff is listed for the various groups and over 55 would qualify for both 'adults' and 'business people'. or is 55 the new retirement age? Earliest retirement age for most State health and safety jobs, such as law enforcement, and firefighters (in California anyway) is 50. did you retire at 50? |
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Apple played digital liberal nanny-stater, now faces several lawsuits
In article , Mayayana
wrote: | a pulse oximeter won't plug directly into the watch. | | that functionality will be part of the watch itself, checking your | oxygen level as often as you deem necessary, as well as other vitals. | | there could also be a bluetooth version that talks to the watch. | | | Since the physical measurement device is not available for sale, it is | vaporware, that I cannot rely on.. It's all a joke. Look up accuracy reports. Apple watch accuracy is quite good as a heart rate monitor, as joke watch functions go. (It's still not very good and the whole idea is idiotic. But within that field it's tops. the only joke is you. the apple watch has already saved the lives of several people, likely more because not everyone has a news story about it. examples such as these come up every so often: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/16/apple-watch-saved-my-life-says-man.html Late last week, Green posted an image from the hospital noting that the "stupid lil wrist computer [he] bought 2 years ago" saved his life after it notified him of a spiking heart rate. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ch_us_5601878d e4b08820d91a4688 ...The watch indicated his heart rate was 145 beats per minute, a full 60 to 80 beats higher than an average resting heart rate. He didnšt know it then, but a*rapid heart rate is a symptom of*rhabdomyolysis. Houlešs father, Paul Sr., is a neurosurgeon who had asked his son to use the Apple Watch to test his heart rate before leaving for school. Armed with this baseline information, Houle knew something was wrong with his body, but he still didnšt think much of it.* In fact, he actually thought the watch was broken. He had never considered its heart rate monitor to be anything more than a gimmick. The schoolšs athletic trainer also thought the watch was broken when Houle told him about his abnormally high heart rate reading. But after being examined by both the trainer and the schoolšs nurse, he was immediately driven to the emergency room.*Once at the hospital, Houle was diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis and began receiving treatment, but the conditionšs effects still caused him to lose control of his muscles.* you should email the families and tell them the watch is just a joke. perhaps they'll be polite when they tell you what they think. There's no reason to think that an oximeter "app" would work any better than the x-ray glasses one can buy from magazines to see fish under water and look through ladies dresses. an app might not, but the external devices do, as will the watch itself when that ability is enabled (the hardware can). Nospam just automatically spews something pro-Apple, given half a chance. If you say you want to buy a hot air balloon he'll probably come up with a balloon shopping app that's only available on iPhone. will it be relevant? no. Will it be factual? Probably not. He doesn't care. idiot. |
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Apple played digital liberal nanny-stater, now faces several lawsuits
On Jan 1, 2018, nospam wrote
(in ) : In iganews.com, Savageduck wrote: it lists young kids, teenagers, college students and adults as the target market. in other words, everyone. Nope. Over 55 is a separate market. no age cutoff is listed for the various groups and over 55 would qualify for both 'adults' and 'business people'. or is 55 the new retirement age? Earliest retirement age for most State health and safety jobs, such as law enforcement, and firefighters (in California anyway) is 50. did you retire at 50? Nope! I retired at 60 in 2009. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Apple played digital liberal nanny-stater, now faces several lawsuits
In article .com,
Savageduck wrote: it lists young kids, teenagers, college students and adults as the target market. in other words, everyone. Nope. Over 55 is a separate market. no age cutoff is listed for the various groups and over 55 would qualify for both 'adults' and 'business people'. or is 55 the new retirement age? Earliest retirement age for most State health and safety jobs, such as law enforcement, and firefighters (in California anyway) is 50. did you retire at 50? Nope! I retired at 60 in 2009. then according to peter, you had 5 years of not being an adult. |
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Apple played digital liberal nanny-stater, now faces several lawsuits
On Jan 1, 2018, nospam wrote
(in ) : In iganews.com, Savageduck wrote: it lists young kids, teenagers, college students and adults as the target market. in other words, everyone. Nope. Over 55 is a separate market. no age cutoff is listed for the various groups and over 55 would qualify for both 'adults' and 'business people'. or is 55 the new retirement age? Earliest retirement age for most State health and safety jobs, such as law enforcement, and firefighters (in California anyway) is 50. did you retire at 50? Nope! I retired at 60 in 2009. then according to peter, you had 5 years of not being an adult. Only 5!! There are a whole bunch of folks who think I am still not an adult. ....and now that I am retired, I have absolutely no reason to behave like an adult, that sort of thing I reserved for work. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Apple played digital liberal nanny-stater, now faces severallawsuits
On 1/1/2018 4:20 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"PeterN" wrote | a pulse oximeter won't plug directly into the watch. | | that functionality will be part of the watch itself, checking your | oxygen level as often as you deem necessary, as well as other vitals. | | there could also be a bluetooth version that talks to the watch. | | | Since the physical measurement device is not available for sale, it is | vaporware, that I cannot rely on.. | It's all a joke. Look up accuracy reports. Apple watch accuracy is quite good as a heart rate monitor, as joke watch functions go. (It's still not very good and the whole idea is idiotic. But within that field it's tops. There's no reason to think that an oximeter "app" would work any better than the x-ray glasses one can buy from magazines to see fish under water and look through ladies dresses. Nospam just automatically spews something pro-Apple, given half a chance. If you say you want to buy a hot air balloon he'll probably come up with a balloon shopping app that's only available on iPhone. will it be relevant? no. Will it be factual? Probably not. He doesn't care. Since I was diagnosed with COPD, and my defibrillator/pacemaker recalled, I see nothing funny about toy pulse oximeters. -- PeterN |
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Apple played digital liberal nanny-stater, now faces several lawsuits
"PeterN" wrote
| Since I was diagnosed with COPD, and my defibrillator/pacemaker | recalled, I see nothing funny about toy pulse oximeters. | I can understand that. Even heart monitors are questionable. For that matter, phone app pedometers are both silly and inaccurate. But people now use them to track and plan their health regimens, trying to maintain a certain number of steps per day. I used to have a friend who was an ER doctor and very suspicious of herbal remedies. He used to like to point out that herbal remedies have a good reputation despite lack of research because it's usually the healthy people who use them. When they *really* get sick they use drugs. An "immune system booster" seems to work well if you don't get sick after taking it. (Not that I think herbs are nonsense. something like 30% of our drugs come from herbs. But there is a lot of magical thinking going on.) One could say the same about frivolous tech approaches to health. They're there because there's a market that will pay, not because they make sense. |
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