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  #81  
Old November 16th 17, 05:05 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:45:20 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , PeterN
wrote:

The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors
have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas.

they don't, and retina displays are not glossy anyway.

My
conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and
manufacturers representatives, including Apple.

your conclusion is wrong and your refusal to learn is even worse.

That's your problem.

no it isn't.

What I have is working well.

nobody said it didn't work well.

the point is that there are other options, potentially much better
options, but you blindly dismiss them without even evaluating them.


Once again you, by your own words, prove that you are only look for an
argument, not to have a reasonable discussion.


once again, you're wrong.

I evaluated a lot of
monitors, including some branded by Apple, before I made my decision. I
feel no compulsion to discuss this further.


you did so long before there were retina displays and also received bad
advice. your conclusion is therefore not valid.


Peter, how long have you had your present monitor?
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  #82  
Old November 16th 17, 07:24 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 11/15/2017 11:05 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:45:20 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , PeterN
wrote:

The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors
have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas.

they don't, and retina displays are not glossy anyway.

My
conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and
manufacturers representatives, including Apple.

your conclusion is wrong and your refusal to learn is even worse.

That's your problem.

no it isn't.

What I have is working well.

nobody said it didn't work well.

the point is that there are other options, potentially much better
options, but you blindly dismiss them without even evaluating them.

Once again you, by your own words, prove that you are only look for an
argument, not to have a reasonable discussion.


once again, you're wrong.

I evaluated a lot of
monitors, including some branded by Apple, before I made my decision. I
feel no compulsion to discuss this further.


you did so long before there were retina displays and also received bad
advice. your conclusion is therefore not valid.


Peter, how long have you had your present monitor?


About a eighteen months, more or less. And it pretty much fits my needs.
I am not responding to the troll on that subject.

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PeterN
  #83  
Old November 16th 17, 07:26 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 11/16/2017 5:26 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 15 November 2017 16:50:23 UTC, PeterN wrote:


The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors
have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas. My
conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and
manufacturers representatives, including Apple.


what year was this ?
As I find it strange that a lot of pro photographers do use Macs, lots of graphic editors use Macs, lots of teching establishmetns use macs, we do here, specifically brough for multimedia teaching, the only time we use PCs is when quality doesnlt matter such as write up sending emails looking at websites, and teaching code writing and such.


My subject is not Mac vs PC. It is monitors.

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PeterN
  #84  
Old November 16th 17, 07:33 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , PeterN
wrote:


The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors
have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas. My
conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and
manufacturers representatives, including Apple.


what year was this ?
As I find it strange that a lot of pro photographers do use Macs, lots of
graphic editors use Macs, lots of teching establishmetns use macs, we do
here, specifically brough for multimedia teaching, the only time we use PCs
is when quality doesnlt matter such as write up sending emails looking at
websites, and teaching code writing and such.


My subject is not Mac vs PC. It is monitors.


you didn't answer his question.
  #85  
Old November 16th 17, 07:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 11/16/2017 1:33 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:


The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors
have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas. My
conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and
manufacturers representatives, including Apple.

what year was this ?
As I find it strange that a lot of pro photographers do use Macs, lots of
graphic editors use Macs, lots of teching establishmetns use macs, we do
here, specifically brough for multimedia teaching, the only time we use PCs
is when quality doesnlt matter such as write up sending emails looking at
websites, and teaching code writing and such.


My subject is not Mac vs PC. It is monitors.


you didn't answer his question.


If you were not just looking to argue, you would see I did. Anyway, it's
irrelevant. My current monitor is a done deal, and it works for me.


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PeterN
  #86  
Old November 16th 17, 07:44 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
nospam
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In article , PeterN
wrote:

The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors
have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas. My
conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and
manufacturers representatives, including Apple.

what year was this ?
As I find it strange that a lot of pro photographers do use Macs, lots of
graphic editors use Macs, lots of teching establishmetns use macs, we do
here, specifically brough for multimedia teaching, the only time we use
PCs
is when quality doesnlt matter such as write up sending emails looking at
websites, and teaching code writing and such.

My subject is not Mac vs PC. It is monitors.


you didn't answer his question.


If you were not just looking to argue, you would see I did.


you did not answer it, and at this point, you are intentionally
avoiding answering it.

Anyway, it's
irrelevant. My current monitor is a done deal, and it works for me.


nobody said it didn't.
  #87  
Old November 16th 17, 09:08 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:24:25 -0500, PeterN
wrote:

On 11/15/2017 11:05 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:45:20 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , PeterN
wrote:

The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors
have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas.

they don't, and retina displays are not glossy anyway.

My
conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and
manufacturers representatives, including Apple.

your conclusion is wrong and your refusal to learn is even worse.

That's your problem.

no it isn't.

What I have is working well.

nobody said it didn't work well.

the point is that there are other options, potentially much better
options, but you blindly dismiss them without even evaluating them.

Once again you, by your own words, prove that you are only look for an
argument, not to have a reasonable discussion.

once again, you're wrong.

I evaluated a lot of
monitors, including some branded by Apple, before I made my decision. I
feel no compulsion to discuss this further.



Peter, how long have you had your present monitor?


About a eighteen months, more or less. And it pretty much fits my needs.
I am not responding to the troll on that subject.


It's just that the first Retina display emerged in 2012 and I was
fairly sure we had discussed your experiences of deciding on a new
monitor since that date.

So when you wrote "I evaluated a lot of monitors, including some
branded by Apple, before I made my decision." and nospam replied "you
did so long before there were retina displays and also received bad
advice. your conclusion is therefore not valid" he was just pulling a
reply out of his arse.

Thank you. You can go back to sleep again now :-)
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #88  
Old November 16th 17, 09:13 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:24:25 -0500, PeterN
wrote:


I evaluated a lot of
monitors, including some branded by Apple, before I made my decision. I
feel no compulsion to discuss this further.

Peter, how long have you had your present monitor?


About a eighteen months, more or less. And it pretty much fits my needs.
I am not responding to the troll on that subject.


It's just that the first Retina display emerged in 2012 and I was
fairly sure we had discussed your experiences of deciding on a new
monitor since that date.


that was for a macbook pro, and actually, the first retina display
emerged in 2010, on the iphone 4.

he was considering a display for his desktop.

the first retina imac came out just 3 years ago, in october 2014, later
updated to a wide gamut dci-p3 display a year later, in 2015.

So when you wrote "I evaluated a lot of monitors, including some
branded by Apple, before I made my decision." and nospam replied "you
did so long before there were retina displays and also received bad
advice. your conclusion is therefore not valid" he was just pulling a
reply out of his arse.


nope.

i recall he mentioned evaluating it prior to october, 2014.
  #89  
Old November 16th 17, 09:13 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 02:26:33 -0800 (PST), Whisky-dave
wrote:

On Wednesday, 15 November 2017 16:50:23 UTC, PeterN wrote:


The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors
have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas. My
conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and
manufacturers representatives, including Apple.


what year was this ?
As I find it strange that a lot of pro photographers do use Macs, lots of graphic editors use Macs, lots of teching establishmetns use macs, we do here, specifically brough for multimedia teaching, the only time we use PCs is when quality doesnlt matter such as write up sending emails looking at websites, and teaching code writing and such.


I can't explain the photographers or teaching establishments but most
graphic editors work with commercial print media or sRGB, neither of
which are worrth a damn when it comes to resolving fine detail in the
shadows.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #90  
Old November 16th 17, 09:15 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
nospam
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

As I find it strange that a lot of pro photographers do use Macs, lots of
graphic editors use Macs, lots of teching establishmetns use macs, we do
here, specifically brough for multimedia teaching, the only time we use PCs
is when quality doesnlt matter such as write up sending emails looking at
websites, and teaching code writing and such.


I can't explain the photographers or teaching establishments but most
graphic editors work with commercial print media or sRGB,


the ****ty ones might. the better graphic editors do not.

neither of
which are worrth a damn when it comes to resolving fine detail in the
shadows.


also wrong.
 




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