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On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:45:20 -0500, nospam
wrote: In article , PeterN wrote: The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas. they don't, and retina displays are not glossy anyway. My conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and manufacturers representatives, including Apple. your conclusion is wrong and your refusal to learn is even worse. That's your problem. no it isn't. What I have is working well. nobody said it didn't work well. the point is that there are other options, potentially much better options, but you blindly dismiss them without even evaluating them. Once again you, by your own words, prove that you are only look for an argument, not to have a reasonable discussion. once again, you're wrong. I evaluated a lot of monitors, including some branded by Apple, before I made my decision. I feel no compulsion to discuss this further. you did so long before there were retina displays and also received bad advice. your conclusion is therefore not valid. Peter, how long have you had your present monitor? -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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On 11/15/2017 11:05 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:45:20 -0500, nospam wrote: In article , PeterN wrote: The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas. they don't, and retina displays are not glossy anyway. My conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and manufacturers representatives, including Apple. your conclusion is wrong and your refusal to learn is even worse. That's your problem. no it isn't. What I have is working well. nobody said it didn't work well. the point is that there are other options, potentially much better options, but you blindly dismiss them without even evaluating them. Once again you, by your own words, prove that you are only look for an argument, not to have a reasonable discussion. once again, you're wrong. I evaluated a lot of monitors, including some branded by Apple, before I made my decision. I feel no compulsion to discuss this further. you did so long before there were retina displays and also received bad advice. your conclusion is therefore not valid. Peter, how long have you had your present monitor? About a eighteen months, more or less. And it pretty much fits my needs. I am not responding to the troll on that subject. -- PeterN |
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On 11/16/2017 5:26 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 15 November 2017 16:50:23 UTC, PeterN wrote: The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas. My conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and manufacturers representatives, including Apple. what year was this ? As I find it strange that a lot of pro photographers do use Macs, lots of graphic editors use Macs, lots of teching establishmetns use macs, we do here, specifically brough for multimedia teaching, the only time we use PCs is when quality doesnlt matter such as write up sending emails looking at websites, and teaching code writing and such. My subject is not Mac vs PC. It is monitors. -- PeterN |
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In article , PeterN
wrote: The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas. My conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and manufacturers representatives, including Apple. what year was this ? As I find it strange that a lot of pro photographers do use Macs, lots of graphic editors use Macs, lots of teching establishmetns use macs, we do here, specifically brough for multimedia teaching, the only time we use PCs is when quality doesnlt matter such as write up sending emails looking at websites, and teaching code writing and such. My subject is not Mac vs PC. It is monitors. you didn't answer his question. |
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On 11/16/2017 1:33 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN wrote: The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas. My conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and manufacturers representatives, including Apple. what year was this ? As I find it strange that a lot of pro photographers do use Macs, lots of graphic editors use Macs, lots of teching establishmetns use macs, we do here, specifically brough for multimedia teaching, the only time we use PCs is when quality doesnlt matter such as write up sending emails looking at websites, and teaching code writing and such. My subject is not Mac vs PC. It is monitors. you didn't answer his question. If you were not just looking to argue, you would see I did. Anyway, it's irrelevant. My current monitor is a done deal, and it works for me. -- PeterN |
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In article , PeterN
wrote: The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas. My conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and manufacturers representatives, including Apple. what year was this ? As I find it strange that a lot of pro photographers do use Macs, lots of graphic editors use Macs, lots of teching establishmetns use macs, we do here, specifically brough for multimedia teaching, the only time we use PCs is when quality doesnlt matter such as write up sending emails looking at websites, and teaching code writing and such. My subject is not Mac vs PC. It is monitors. you didn't answer his question. If you were not just looking to argue, you would see I did. you did not answer it, and at this point, you are intentionally avoiding answering it. Anyway, it's irrelevant. My current monitor is a done deal, and it works for me. nobody said it didn't. |
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:24:25 -0500, PeterN
wrote: On 11/15/2017 11:05 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:45:20 -0500, nospam wrote: In article , PeterN wrote: The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas. they don't, and retina displays are not glossy anyway. My conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and manufacturers representatives, including Apple. your conclusion is wrong and your refusal to learn is even worse. That's your problem. no it isn't. What I have is working well. nobody said it didn't work well. the point is that there are other options, potentially much better options, but you blindly dismiss them without even evaluating them. Once again you, by your own words, prove that you are only look for an argument, not to have a reasonable discussion. once again, you're wrong. I evaluated a lot of monitors, including some branded by Apple, before I made my decision. I feel no compulsion to discuss this further. Peter, how long have you had your present monitor? About a eighteen months, more or less. And it pretty much fits my needs. I am not responding to the troll on that subject. It's just that the first Retina display emerged in 2012 and I was fairly sure we had discussed your experiences of deciding on a new monitor since that date. So when you wrote "I evaluated a lot of monitors, including some branded by Apple, before I made my decision." and nospam replied "you did so long before there were retina displays and also received bad advice. your conclusion is therefore not valid" he was just pulling a reply out of his arse. Thank you. You can go back to sleep again now :-) -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:24:25 -0500, PeterN wrote: I evaluated a lot of monitors, including some branded by Apple, before I made my decision. I feel no compulsion to discuss this further. Peter, how long have you had your present monitor? About a eighteen months, more or less. And it pretty much fits my needs. I am not responding to the troll on that subject. It's just that the first Retina display emerged in 2012 and I was fairly sure we had discussed your experiences of deciding on a new monitor since that date. that was for a macbook pro, and actually, the first retina display emerged in 2010, on the iphone 4. he was considering a display for his desktop. the first retina imac came out just 3 years ago, in october 2014, later updated to a wide gamut dci-p3 display a year later, in 2015. So when you wrote "I evaluated a lot of monitors, including some branded by Apple, before I made my decision." and nospam replied "you did so long before there were retina displays and also received bad advice. your conclusion is therefore not valid" he was just pulling a reply out of his arse. nope. i recall he mentioned evaluating it prior to october, 2014. |
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 02:26:33 -0800 (PST), Whisky-dave
wrote: On Wednesday, 15 November 2017 16:50:23 UTC, PeterN wrote: The in context and clear meaning of my statement is that glossy monitors have issues displaying color gradations in the dark and shadow areas. My conclusion was drawn after I had conversations with users, and manufacturers representatives, including Apple. what year was this ? As I find it strange that a lot of pro photographers do use Macs, lots of graphic editors use Macs, lots of teching establishmetns use macs, we do here, specifically brough for multimedia teaching, the only time we use PCs is when quality doesnlt matter such as write up sending emails looking at websites, and teaching code writing and such. I can't explain the photographers or teaching establishments but most graphic editors work with commercial print media or sRGB, neither of which are worrth a damn when it comes to resolving fine detail in the shadows. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: As I find it strange that a lot of pro photographers do use Macs, lots of graphic editors use Macs, lots of teching establishmetns use macs, we do here, specifically brough for multimedia teaching, the only time we use PCs is when quality doesnlt matter such as write up sending emails looking at websites, and teaching code writing and such. I can't explain the photographers or teaching establishments but most graphic editors work with commercial print media or sRGB, the ****ty ones might. the better graphic editors do not. neither of which are worrth a damn when it comes to resolving fine detail in the shadows. also wrong. |
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