A question for Applefans

On 2015-09-12 13:36:20 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 01:51:12 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-09-12 05:35:09 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 00:37:02 -0400, nospam
wrote:
In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

You research toasters, too?

toasters are commodity products. there's not a whole lot of research to
do.

I agree. Evidently, they require research if purchased in Sweden.
Popinjay equates them with refrigerators and feels both should be
researched before purchase.

...and if you want a toaster which would deal with bagels, and other
similar toastables, and then discover the one you bought will only
accomodate sliced bread.

OK...there are two ways to know that: 1) do research on the internet,
and, 2) look at the model on the shelf and see if it has wide
openings.

I'm absolutely sure I can see the difference between narrow slots and
wide slots. If at all in doubt I can look down the row of toasters on
display and note the slot opening sizes for comparison.

Some toasters even have stickers on the display model informing the
customer of the features...like bagel-accommodating slots.

So there are times that some research is needed, even minimal research
on toasters, rather than just lifting the best priced one off a shelf
in the store.


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Regards,

Savageduck

On 2015-09-12 09:57, Savageduck wrote:

So there are times that some research is needed, even minimal research
on toasters, rather than just lifting the best priced one off a shelf in
the store.


If something electronic or electro-mechanical is for sale at Costco, I
assume, to start, that it is something the manufacturer can't sell off
and Costco is the penultimate dumping ground.

That's not always the case but a wise starting evaluation point before
buying such items at Costco. That said I'll be picking up an APC UPS
today at Costco - but I researched it first...

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

You research toasters, too?

toasters are commodity products. there's not a whole lot of research to
do.

I agree. Evidently, they require research if purchased in Sweden.
Popinjay equates them with refrigerators and feels both should be
researched before purchase.

...and if you want a toaster which would deal with bagels, and other
similar toastables, and then discover the one you bought will only
accomodate sliced bread.

OK...there are two ways to know that: 1) do research on the internet,
and, 2) look at the model on the shelf and see if it has wide
openings.

bagels require more than wide openings.

bagels require that it toasts only on one side, usually a toaster-oven
rather than a pop-up toaster.

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

you say cost was not a determining factor, yet you bought a two year
old phone for 99 cents?

if cost really wasn't a factor, you'd have bought the 5s which had just
come out.

I may be underestimating your value.

clearly.

You know when I bought my phone,
how much I paid for it, and what other inventory the store had in
stock at the time. I tend to forget that stuff as it really isn't all
that important to me.

i said nothing about inventory.

do learn to read.

You said the iPhone5s had just come out and I could have purchased it.
If they didn't have that in inventory, why would you say that?

you still don't get it, do you.

the point is that you claim cost was not a factor, yet you bought a 2
year old phone for 99 cents.

why did you say cost was not a factor, when it clearly was?

as for inventory, if they were out of stock that day, they would have
sent one to you when stock was replenished, which would likely have
been the next day, possibly even the same day, depending on what time
you were there. it would not have prevented you from buying it.

you have once again been caught lying.

Do learn to remember what you wrote.

i know quite well what i wrote.

the problem is you twist things into what wasn't said.

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

OK...there are two ways to know that: 1) do research on the internet,
and, 2) look at the model on the shelf and see if it has wide
openings.

bagels require more than wide openings.

bagels require that it toasts only on one side, usually a toaster-oven
rather than a pop-up toaster.

No, they don't "require" that. Bagels will toast in a toaster if they
fit. We do use a toaster oven for bagels and English muffins, but
it's not a requirement.

it is if you want to properly toast a bagel where only one side is
toasted.

otherwise, both sides are toasted, which is both wrong and tastes
awful.

obviously, you don't give a **** about doing things properly nor do you
know much about bagels. you probably don't care if they're boiled or
not.

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

OK! I give up.
You are absolutely correct you wanted an Apple phone so you bought an
Apple phone, and you are happy that it works as a phone should.
However, of the various Apple phones available to you, you made a
selection based purely on the brand name.
It looks as if your choice of the iPhone 4S was an accident, because if
there wasn't one in the store you would probably have been happy to
leave with an iPhone 5(S) because it was an APPLE phone, not because of
its improved capabilities (which you would have been blisfully unaware
of).

Quite so. I'm not aware of how the improved capabilities of the
iPhone5s, would have improved my experience since I've owned the
iPhone4s, but I'll take your word for it.

The problem with some "improved capabilities" is that the user has no
use for them. Not all users, just some.

you don't even know what the improved capabilitites *are* yet you're
already dismissing them.

On 9/9/2015 3:28 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

If I recall correctly, the price was the same on a number of phones
because I had no contract obligation, so it wasn't a "deal" because of
the model. With a contract, all the phones were just a few bucks and
price wasn't a factor.

You still had no idea of what you were buying.

Oh, c'mon. You don't have to do research to know what an iPhone does.
They're all over the place. You can't be around other people and not
have someone pull out an iPhone. You can't be around other people and
not hear comments about their phone.

actually you should do research, since features vary among models.

the only way to find out which model best fits your needs is to know
what each of the models actually offer.


Who cares which phone best fits his needs. If he doesn't why should you?
I may take a different approach with a car. But with a fairly small
purchase if I make a mistake, so what. With my phone, I talk to my
friends, if the item does what I want reasonably well, I make the
purchase. If I made a mistake, it's no big deal.



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PeterN

On 9/9/2015 7:14 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-09-09 20:26:48 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:11:22 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-09-09 14:23:46 +0000, Tony Cooper
said:

I wanted three features: ability to make and receive phone calls,
ability to take photos (but quality not an issue), touchscreen keypad.
The research required for this was glancing at each phone on display
in the AT&T store.

Additionally, I wanted a phone with a good history of dependibility.

Does this mean you aren't interested in the iPhone 6S, iPhone 6S+, or
the iPad Pro?

Presently, no. As I've said, owning the newest shiny object is not my
thing. Should I need a new phone or iPad, I would - of course -
consider them. I don't expect that I'd choose the 6S, though. I'd go
for the smaller 6. A large display area is not a feature that
interests me. Pocket-size is a more important feature to me.

The 6S is the smaller of the two, the 6+S the larger. Both were
announced this morning.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/


I would like a larger screen, but there is a limit to the size that fits
in my pocket. I am not very good with belt holsters. For you it's
different.

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PeterN

On 9/9/2015 11:06 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

and the 5s is smaller yet and still offered.

You might have noticed, the comparison site features 5S, 6, 6+, 6S, and
6+S.

Moreover, the 5S is my current phone, I am well aware of its size,

you might be, however, tony likely is not. until the other day, he had
no idea what model he had.

No, I'm not au courant on phone models of the various makers of
phones. I see no reason to be.

nobody said you had to know the various models of the various makers.

the point is that you didn't know the model of *what* *you* *bought*.


So, why is that important.
Today I bought a new blender. I can tell you the brand, but not the
model. I wonder how many here know the model of the computer they use. I
know the brand and the specs, but not the model.


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PeterN

On 9/10/2015 6:06 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:


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The only other app is a crossword puzzle app that I downloaded one day
when I was in a doctor's office and had forgotten to bring a book.


I get my crossword puzzles from the NY Times, right on my phone.

I know that by admitting that I don't have or use apps to any extent
that I will have shocked and upset some readers, but I remain insist
ant that each of us should follow our own interests.



Heresy heresy.


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PeterN