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Sorting Out Photos Library
At the moment, I have 100GB of photos in my Photos library on my iMac,
and 80GB on iCloud. Things have stopped syncing between devices - when I take a new photo on the phone, it's not appearing across devices (iPad, Mini, iMac). The Settings/iCloud Photo Library is not checked - so this could be part of the problem. When I tick the box, the dialogue tells me there's not enough room on the iMac (about 80GB free) to store the photos, and offers to offload the full res photos on the iMac to iCloud to save space. Now, I don't want to do this - I want to keep originals on my own storage (iMac or an external disk/backup). And I have enough trouble trying to understand where the originals are as it is. What's the best way forward?! * Delete the iCloud backup and let it rebuild? * I would consider offloading the RAW and other large files, and backing them up elsewhere - but I can't see a way to filter by size. (note - I've x-posted - not sure of the netiquette here, so please reply with that in mind) -- Cheers, Rob |
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:12:05 +0000, RJH wrote:
At the moment, I have 100GB of photos in my Photos library on my iMac, and 80GB on iCloud. Things have stopped syncing between devices - when I take a new photo on the phone, it's not appearing across devices (iPad, Mini, iMac). The Settings/iCloud Photo Library is not checked - so this could be part of the problem. Rather. Unticking that reduces you to manual copy from the phone, or the awful "last 1000 pics or 30 days" My Photo Stream which is unreliable and wasteful of storage and all around eeurgh. It was useful five years ago, let's leave it at that. Ticking the iCloud Photo Librarhy box on each device allows each to upload all new pics to iCloud, and also to show thumbnails (and download originals on demand) of the whole iCloud-hosted library. For normal use, to gain "I've got all my pictures everywhere!" synching, tick the box on all devices you want to see or take your photos on. For me, that's all of them. When I tick the box, the dialogue tells me there's not enough room on the iMac (about 80GB free) to store the photos, and offers to offload the full res photos on the iMac to iCloud to save space. Now, I don't want to do this - I want to keep originals on my own storage (iMac or an external disk/backup). And I have enough trouble trying to understand where the originals are as it is. If you enable iCloud Photo Library, all originals are uploaded to iCloud. That is your source of truth, as it were. Originals will also be left on or synched to any device which has the "Download originals to this XXX" Photos preference set. Otherwise the device will be "managed" which in practice means full-res on Macs unless you're short of space, and thumbnails locally and download-from-iCloud-on-demand on iThings. Myself: I tick that "originals" box on my iMac, my old spare Mini, and my old 128gig iPad3 - and I back the Macs up elsewhere and offsite. I won't risk losing my pics in an iCloud sync meltdown! I do not tick it on my phone or my iPad Air 2 use. Sometimes mildly annoying waiting for a pic to download full-res on the phone, but I can't fit my whole library on it so no choice. What's the best way forward?! Photos on your Mac is being pessimistic/safe/dumb/maybe even correct, and assuming that all the iCloud pics are not dupes of anything on the Mac, thus the complaint about space. There's no way for you to fix that, so temporarily offload *other* data from the Mac to make enough space, then enable iCloud Photo Library and tick "Download originals to this Mac". This will eventually - several days probably - resolve dupes, push your Mac pics up to iCloud, download other pics from iCloud to mac, and give you a combined set of all your originals in both iCloud and on the Mac. * Delete the iCloud backup and let it rebuild? iCloud Backups are not related to iCloud Photo Library. Devices with IPL enabled do not backup their pics again, they re-sync from the IPL if you do a backup/restore. Don't delete any backups. * I would consider offloading the RAW and other large files, and backing them up elsewhere - but I can't see a way to filter by size. You could look into that after getting everything into IPL, which would reduce the footprint. Or just leave them in there, no harm. Cheers - Jaimie -- I always wanted to be someone. I should have been more specific. -- Lily Tomlin |
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On 2018-01-05 11:12:05 +0000, RJH said:
At the moment, I have 100GB of photos in my Photos library on my iMac, and 80GB on iCloud. Things have stopped syncing between devices - when I take a new photo on the phone, it's not appearing across devices (iPad, Mini, iMac). The Settings/iCloud Photo Library is not checked - so this could be part of the problem. When I tick the box, the dialogue tells me there's not enough room on the iMac (about 80GB free) to store the photos, and offers to offload the full res photos on the iMac to iCloud to save space. Now, I don't want to do this - I want to keep originals on my own storage (iMac or an external disk/backup). And I have enough trouble trying to understand where the originals are as it is. What's the best way forward?! * Delete the iCloud backup and let it rebuild? * I would consider offloading the RAW and other large files, and backing them up elsewhere - but I can't see a way to filter by size. (note - I've x-posted - not sure of the netiquette here, so please reply with that in mind) I think that most posters in the uk.* hierarchy want it to UK only and posting here in an international forum kinda spoils that. There are talk on photo relateted hardware over at rec.photo.digital and posting x-posting with that group should not be inappropriate. HTH. -- teleportation kills |
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On 05/01/2018 12:37, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:12:05 +0000, RJH wrote: At the moment, I have 100GB of photos in my Photos library on my iMac, and 80GB on iCloud. Things have stopped syncing between devices - when I take a new photo on the phone, it's not appearing across devices (iPad, Mini, iMac). The Settings/iCloud Photo Library is not checked - so this could be part of the problem. Rather. Unticking that reduces you to manual copy from the phone, or the awful "last 1000 pics or 30 days" My Photo Stream which is unreliable and wasteful of storage and all around eeurgh. It was useful five years ago, let's leave it at that. Ticking the iCloud Photo Librarhy box on each device allows each to upload all new pics to iCloud, and also to show thumbnails (and download originals on demand) of the whole iCloud-hosted library. For normal use, to gain "I've got all my pictures everywhere!" synching, tick the box on all devices you want to see or take your photos on. For me, that's all of them. When I tick the box, the dialogue tells me there's not enough room on the iMac (about 80GB free) to store the photos, and offers to offload the full res photos on the iMac to iCloud to save space. Now, I don't want to do this - I want to keep originals on my own storage (iMac or an external disk/backup). And I have enough trouble trying to understand where the originals are as it is. If you enable iCloud Photo Library, all originals are uploaded to iCloud. That is your source of truth, as it were. Originals will also be left on or synched to any device which has the "Download originals to this XXX" Photos preference set. Otherwise the device will be "managed" which in practice means full-res on Macs unless you're short of space, and thumbnails locally and download-from-iCloud-on-demand on iThings. Ah! That's a part I hadn't seen - more reassuring. Just tried it and it now says I might run out of iCloud space. It shouldn't (unless it duplicates photos), but that's far better than risking the iMac originals (which are backed up elsewhere) Myself: I tick that "originals" box on my iMac, my old spare Mini, and my old 128gig iPad3 - and I back the Macs up elsewhere and offsite. I won't risk losing my pics in an iCloud sync meltdown! I do not tick it on my phone or my iPad Air 2 use. Sometimes mildly annoying waiting for a pic to download full-res on the phone, but I can't fit my whole library on it so no choice. What's the best way forward?! Photos on your Mac is being pessimistic/safe/dumb/maybe even correct, and assuming that all the iCloud pics are not dupes of anything on the Mac, thus the complaint about space. There's no way for you to fix that, so temporarily offload *other* data from the Mac to make enough space, then enable iCloud Photo Library and tick "Download originals to this Mac". This will eventually - several days probably - resolve dupes, push your Mac pics up to iCloud, download other pics from iCloud to mac, and give you a combined set of all your originals in both iCloud and on the Mac. Fingers crossed! * Delete the iCloud backup and let it rebuild? iCloud Backups are not related to iCloud Photo Library. Devices with IPL enabled do not backup their pics again, they re-sync from the IPL if you do a backup/restore. Don't delete any backups. * I would consider offloading the RAW and other large files, and backing them up elsewhere - but I can't see a way to filter by size. You could look into that after getting everything into IPL, which would reduce the footprint. Or just leave them in there, no harm. Good, thanks very much. Incidentally, I found that amongst the options for smart folders is RAW (15GB here). But no 'of a certain size' option. -- Cheers, Rob |
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On 05/01/2018 12:40, android wrote:
On 2018-01-05 11:12:05 +0000, RJH said: At the moment, I have 100GB of photos in my Photos library on my iMac, and 80GB on iCloud. Things have stopped syncing between devices - when I take a new photo on the phone, it's not appearing across devices (iPad, Mini, iMac). The Settings/iCloud Photo Library is not checked - so this could be part of the problem. When I tick the box, the dialogue tells me there's not enough room on the iMac (about 80GB free) to store the photos, and offers to offload the full res photos on the iMac to iCloud to save space. Now, I don't want to do this - I want to keep originals on my own storage (iMac or an external disk/backup). And I have enough trouble trying to understand where the originals are as it is. What's the best way forward?! * Delete the iCloud backup and let it rebuild? * I would consider offloading the RAW and other large files, and backing them up elsewhere - but I can't see a way to filter by size. (note - I've x-posted - not sure of the netiquette here, so please reply with that in mind) I think that most posters in the uk.* hierarchy want it to UK only and posting here in an international forum kinda spoils that. There are talk on photo relateted hardware over at rec.photo.digital and posting x-posting with that group should not be inappropriate. HTH. Ah thanks - noted. -- Cheers, Rob |
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 08:24:35 +0000, RJH wrote:
Good, thanks very much. No worries. It's slightly nervous work, I know! I somehow managed to not write "and take a backup first" but you knew that anyway, of course. TM backups *do* backup Mac photos, whether they're in iCloud or not. Incidentally, I found that amongst the options for smart folders is RAW (15GB here). But no 'of a certain size' option. Photo's smart folder filtering options are odd, aren't they. Hangover from the iOS code where they still have lingering doubts about whether to admit that pictures are files, I suppose. Cheers - Jaimie -- The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. -- Dorothy Parker |
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