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Old September 27th 17, 08:01 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

In article , android
says...



Seems you are posting everything twice.


he posts multiple times, cancelling each previous version every time he
makes a revision, knowing full well that most usenet servers do not
handle cancels, resulting in multiple posts to the reader.

it's best to edit and revise *before* posting.
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Old September 27th 17, 08:01 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

When I bought my D750 I made the deliberate decision to limit myself
to 24 MPx. Had I wanted to I could have bought a 45 MPx D850 but I
didn't see that I would benefit from the file size.


My brother bought a D600 a while ago, then barely used it. Too big &
heavy, too hard to use it (he never managed to learn how to use it).


it's very easy to use.
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Old September 27th 17, 08:03 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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In article .com,
Savageduck says...

A little food for thought. How many megapixels do you need?
http://www.sebastianboatca.com/how-many-megapixels-do-you-need/


"...billboard prints made with pictures from an iPhone..." - then why do
100MP medium format cameras exist, if a smartphone can do the same?

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http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site
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Old September 27th 17, 08:12 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:

A little food for thought. How many megapixels do you need?
http://www.sebastianboatca.com/how-many-megapixels-do-you-need/


When the pixel density of the sensor exceeds the theoretical resolution
of the optical system, the density is high enough, and IMO we are there.
I want to see greater exposure latitude. Early digital cameras were
compared to slide film, in that you needed to choose to expose either
for the shadows or the highlights. Maybe we're now closer to color
reversal film, but why be satisfied with that? The ideal will be when
aperture and exposure will only be used for depth of field and motion
blur. Just like the Lytro let you set focus after the image was taken,
lets get to the point where exposure is chosen after the shot.

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Old September 27th 17, 08:19 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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In article
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Storkamp wrote:

When the pixel density of the sensor exceeds the theoretical resolution
of the optical system, the density is high enough, and IMO we are there.


there is still an advantage in higher resolution sensors, but it's
minor.

I want to see greater exposure latitude. Early digital cameras were
compared to slide film, in that you needed to choose to expose either
for the shadows or the highlights. Maybe we're now closer to color
reversal film, but why be satisfied with that?


reversal film *is* slide film, and digital blew past that long ago,
along with colour negative film.

The ideal will be when
aperture and exposure will only be used for depth of field and motion
blur. Just like the Lytro let you set focus after the image was taken,
lets get to the point where exposure is chosen after the shot.


that has been possible for a while.
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Old September 27th 17, 11:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 11:04:14 +0200, android wrote:

In article ,
Eric Stevens wrote:

On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:22:23 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

A little food for thought. How many megapixels do you need?
http://www.sebastianboatca.com/how-many-megapixels-do-you-need/


When I bought my D750 I made the deliberate decision to limit myself
to 24 MPx. Had I wanted to I could have bought a 45 MPx D850 but I
didn't see that I would benefit from the file size.


With a higher resolution you get more crop ability, less sharpening
artifacts and etc etc...


.... and more susceptibility to my increasingly shaky hands.

At 50MP you'll have little need of an
antialiasing filter since the sensor out resolves most but not all
lenses and skipping the AA will give you even more resolution... That
said: I really like my 8MP 1D2! :-))

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Old September 28th 17, 12:03 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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In article , Eric Stevens
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With a higher resolution you get more crop ability, less sharpening
artifacts and etc etc...


... and more susceptibility to my increasingly shaky hands.


enable stabilization
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Old September 28th 17, 04:24 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 19:03:48 -0400, nospam
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


With a higher resolution you get more crop ability, less sharpening
artifacts and etc etc...


... and more susceptibility to my increasingly shaky hands.


enable stabilization


Gee! I hadn't thought of that.

My hands never were the steadiest but these days they are heading to
the other end of the scale.
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Old September 28th 17, 05:14 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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On 9/27/2017 3:01 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

When I bought my D750 I made the deliberate decision to limit myself
to 24 MPx. Had I wanted to I could have bought a 45 MPx D850 but I
didn't see that I would benefit from the file size.


My brother bought a D600 a while ago, then barely used it. Too big &
heavy, too hard to use it (he never managed to learn how to use it).


it's very easy to use.


Any camera is easy to use, if you know how. I know three experienced and
serious photographers who got it for close up work, but for one reason
or another, all three did not like using it. Two of them are now using
Fujis, and the third a Sony. I am not sure which models.

--
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Old September 28th 17, 05:25 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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On 9/27/2017 1:33 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Sep 27, 2017, Davoud wrote
(in article ):

Savageduck:

A little food for thought. How many megapixels do you need?
http://www.sebastianboatca.com/how-many-megapixels-do-you-need/


Utter nonsense. How can I tell anything about image size and resolution
by looking at poorly exposed, miniaturized jpegs on a web page?


It is after all just the author expressing his opinion, as many blog authors
do, and the jpegs presented are fine for viewing in the context of the blog,
rather than intense pixel peeking. Hardly “miniaturized jpegs”, but sized
for online blog viewing.

I posted it as an article which might be of some interest to folks who
subscribe to r.p.d, or a.p as it is far more on topic than much of what
passes through these photo NGs these days.


True, but surely you knew it would provoke this type of discussion. In
an ideal world the discussion would be without personal insults, and
would not devolve into a tool war.



So take it, or leave it, and I suspect you would prefer to leave it.




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