Misleading bloggers and the use of "free".

On 6/17/2016 1:08 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
I recently read a blog where the blogger provided a link to a site
where I could download a free software program. "The download is
free", he said.

It was, in my opinion, deceptive at best. Of course the download is
"free". No one charges the user to download the program. The use of
the program, though, may not be free.

The downloaded program may be a free trial period or a crippled trial
period where all uses of the program result in a watermarked result or
provide only limited functions compared to the paid-for version. There
may not even be a free trial period, but the download is still free.

You don't get "ThisSoftware" free in many cases. No free goods are
offered. You get use of the program for a limited time, but you must
pay for that use after the trial period.

Just another reason we should understand the difference between "free
goods" - which are goods you get to keep at no charge - and "free
use", which is access to something at no charge.

Yikes. In your first case, you can keep the goods at no charge, but you
may not be able to use it for free. In your second case, you have access
to it at no charge, but still may not be able to use it for free.
Tomato, tomato (pronunciation differences are up to the reader, at no
charge).

That said, it is a common practice to see claims on many "review sites"
that some software is free, but when one gets it, the problems you
pointed out bites them. It's not a new phenomena.

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Best regards,

Neil

On 2016-06-17 17:44:23 +0000, Neil said:

SNIP


Yikes. In your first case, you can keep the goods at no charge, but you
may not be able to use it for free. In your second case, you have
access to it at no charge, but still may not be able to use it for
free. Tomato, tomato (pronunciation differences are up to the reader,
at no charge).

You have no idea of what can result when you have an American father,
born in Georgia and raised in NC, and an English mother born in
Battersea, raised in Croydon and Wimbledon. The cross pollination is a
wonder to behold. ;-)


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Regards,

Savageduck

On 6/17/2016 2:02 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 17:44:23 +0000, Neil said:

SNIP


Yikes. In your first case, you can keep the goods at no charge, but
you may not be able to use it for free. In your second case, you have
access to it at no charge, but still may not be able to use it for
free. Tomato, tomato (pronunciation differences are up to the reader,
at no charge).

You have no idea of what can result when you have an American father,
born in Georgia and raised in NC, and an English mother born in
Battersea, raised in Croydon and Wimbledon. The cross pollination is a
wonder to behold. ;-)


Should I have added a couple more "tomatoes" to allow for more
possibilities? 8-D

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Best regards,

Neil

On 2016-06-17 18:12:52 +0000, Neil said:

On 6/17/2016 2:02 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 17:44:23 +0000, Neil said:

SNIP


Yikes. In your first case, you can keep the goods at no charge, but
you may not be able to use it for free. In your second case, you have
access to it at no charge, but still may not be able to use it for
free. Tomato, tomato (pronunciation differences are up to the reader,
at no charge).

You have no idea of what can result when you have an American father,
born in Georgia and raised in NC, and an English mother born in
Battersea, raised in Croydon and Wimbledon. The cross pollination is a
wonder to behold. ;-)


Should I have added a couple more "tomatoes" to allow for more
possibilities? 8-D

Ranch; branch; aluminum/aluminium; windshield/windscreen, there are so
many to baffle the unwashed masses.

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Regards,

Savageduck

Savageduck wrote:
Ranch; branch; aluminum/aluminium; windshield/windscreen, there are so
many to baffle the unwashed masses.


While driving with a lady friend in her car in England some years ago,
she gave me 4 "foreign" words in one sentence:

Please take the torch, go to the boot, and get out a tin of petrol.
(flashlight) (trunk) (can) (gasoline)

"Cute" in the U.S. means pretty or attractive.In England, it is a
pejorative meaning sly or foxy.

Winston Churchill said that the U.S. and England are two nations
separated by a common language. His mother was American.

Mort Linder

On 6/17/2016 2:33 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 18:12:52 +0000, Neil said:

On 6/17/2016 2:02 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 17:44:23 +0000, Neil said:

SNIP


Yikes. In your first case, you can keep the goods at no charge, but
you may not be able to use it for free. In your second case, you have
access to it at no charge, but still may not be able to use it for
free. Tomato, tomato (pronunciation differences are up to the reader,
at no charge).

You have no idea of what can result when you have an American father,
born in Georgia and raised in NC, and an English mother born in
Battersea, raised in Croydon and Wimbledon. The cross pollination is a
wonder to behold. ;-)


Should I have added a couple more "tomatoes" to allow for more
possibilities? 8-D

Ranch; branch; aluminum/aluminium; windshield/windscreen, there are so
many to baffle the unwashed masses.

"Ranch; branch"? Our MG doesn't have a hood, but it does have the bonnet
our Mazdas lack... ;-)


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Best regards,

Neil

On 2016-06-17 19:07:48 +0000, Neil said:

On 6/17/2016 2:33 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 18:12:52 +0000, Neil said:

On 6/17/2016 2:02 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 17:44:23 +0000, Neil said:

SNIP


Yikes. In your first case, you can keep the goods at no charge, but
you may not be able to use it for free. In your second case, you have
access to it at no charge, but still may not be able to use it for
free. Tomato, tomato (pronunciation differences are up to the reader,
at no charge).

You have no idea of what can result when you have an American father,
born in Georgia and raised in NC, and an English mother born in
Battersea, raised in Croydon and Wimbledon. The cross pollination is a
wonder to behold. ;-)


Should I have added a couple more "tomatoes" to allow for more
possibilities? 8-D

Ranch; branch; aluminum/aluminium; windshield/windscreen, there are so
many to baffle the unwashed masses.

"Ranch; branch"?

Those words have a very different pronunciation of the "a" on either
side of the pond, as does "fast", "last", etc.

Our MG doesn't have a hood, but it does have the bonnet our Mazdas lack... ;-)

There is also the boot/trunk issue. The English never moved on from the
18th Century stagecoach term for the shelf at the rear of a stagecoach
(the boot) where trunks were placed. Early automobiles also had this
"boot" where a separate "trunk" was place. After the "trunk" was
integrated into the auto body, the US called it the "trunk" and the
Brits never made the adaptation because they placed trunks in the
"boot".

A stagecoach with rear and front "boot" indicated.
http://www.historicthedalles.org/images/stagecoach/stagecoach1.gif

....and a 1930 Lincoln with a "trunk" sitting on the "boot".
https://db.tt/k5FIQvrM


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Regards,

Savageduck

On 6/17/2016 3:38 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 19:07:48 +0000, Neil said:

On 6/17/2016 2:33 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 18:12:52 +0000, Neil said:

On 6/17/2016 2:02 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 17:44:23 +0000, Neil said:

SNIP


Yikes. In your first case, you can keep the goods at no charge, but
you may not be able to use it for free. In your second case, you have
access to it at no charge, but still may not be able to use it for
free. Tomato, tomato (pronunciation differences are up to the reader,
at no charge).

You have no idea of what can result when you have an American father,
born in Georgia and raised in NC, and an English mother born in
Battersea, raised in Croydon and Wimbledon. The cross pollination is a
wonder to behold. ;-)


Should I have added a couple more "tomatoes" to allow for more
possibilities? 8-D

Ranch; branch; aluminum/aluminium; windshield/windscreen, there are so
many to baffle the unwashed masses.

"Ranch; branch"?

Those words have a very different pronunciation of the "a" on either
side of the pond, as does "fast", "last", etc.

Our MG doesn't have a hood, but it does have the bonnet our Mazdas
lack... ;-)

There is also the boot/trunk issue. The English never moved on from the
18th Century stagecoach term for the shelf at the rear of a stagecoach
(the boot) where trunks were placed. Early automobiles also had this
"boot" where a separate "trunk" was place. After the "trunk" was
integrated into the auto body, the US called it the "trunk" and the
Brits never made the adaptation because they placed trunks in the "boot".

A stagecoach with rear and front "boot" indicated.
http://www.historicthedalles.org/images/stagecoach/stagecoach1.gif

...and a 1930 Lincoln with a "trunk" sitting on the "boot".
https://db.tt/k5FIQvrM


If you gave someone the trunk, they would be a lot happier than if you
gave them the boot.


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PeterN

On 6/20/2016 5:43 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Saturday, 18 June 2016 02:46:18 UTC+1, peterN wrote:
On 6/17/2016 3:38 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 19:07:48 +0000, Neil said:

On 6/17/2016 2:33 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 18:12:52 +0000, Neil said:

On 6/17/2016 2:02 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 17:44:23 +0000, Neil said:

SNIP


Yikes. In your first case, you can keep the goods at no charge, but
you may not be able to use it for free. In your second case, you have
access to it at no charge, but still may not be able to use it for
free. Tomato, tomato (pronunciation differences are up to the reader,
at no charge).

You have no idea of what can result when you have an American father,
born in Georgia and raised in NC, and an English mother born in
Battersea, raised in Croydon and Wimbledon. The cross pollination is a
wonder to behold. ;-)


Should I have added a couple more "tomatoes" to allow for more
possibilities? 8-D

Ranch; branch; aluminum/aluminium; windshield/windscreen, there are so
many to baffle the unwashed masses.

"Ranch; branch"?

Those words have a very different pronunciation of the "a" on either
side of the pond, as does "fast", "last", etc.

Our MG doesn't have a hood, but it does have the bonnet our Mazdas
lack... ;-)

There is also the boot/trunk issue. The English never moved on from the
18th Century stagecoach term for the shelf at the rear of a stagecoach
(the boot) where trunks were placed. Early automobiles also had this
"boot" where a separate "trunk" was place. After the "trunk" was
integrated into the auto body, the US called it the "trunk" and the
Brits never made the adaptation because they placed trunks in the "boot".

A stagecoach with rear and front "boot" indicated.
http://www.historicthedalles.org/images/stagecoach/stagecoach1.gif

...and a 1930 Lincoln with a "trunk" sitting on the "boot".
https://db.tt/k5FIQvrM


If you gave someone the trunk, they would be a lot happier than if you
gave them the boot.

Yes if you give someone the boot that can also be reffered to as giving them the sack.


Do I really have to explain that terrible pun.



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PeterN

On 6/20/2016 5:43 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Saturday, 18 June 2016 02:46:18 UTC+1, peterN wrote:
On 6/17/2016 3:38 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 19:07:48 +0000, Neil said:

On 6/17/2016 2:33 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 18:12:52 +0000, Neil said:

On 6/17/2016 2:02 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-06-17 17:44:23 +0000, Neil said:

SNIP

Yikes. In your first case, you can keep the goods at no charge, but
you may not be able to use it for free. In your second case, you have
access to it at no charge, but still may not be able to use it for
free. Tomato, tomato (pronunciation differences are up to the reader,
at no charge).
You have no idea of what can result when you have an American father,
born in Georgia and raised in NC, and an English mother born in
Battersea, raised in Croydon and Wimbledon. The cross pollination is a
wonder to behold. ;-)


Should I have added a couple more "tomatoes" to allow for more
possibilities? 8-D
Ranch; branch; aluminum/aluminium; windshield/windscreen, there are so
many to baffle the unwashed masses.

"Ranch; branch"?
Those words have a very different pronunciation of the "a" on either
side of the pond, as does "fast", "last", etc.

Our MG doesn't have a hood, but it does have the bonnet our Mazdas
lack... ;-)
There is also the boot/trunk issue. The English never moved on from the
18th Century stagecoach term for the shelf at the rear of a stagecoach
(the boot) where trunks were placed. Early automobiles also had this
"boot" where a separate "trunk" was place. After the "trunk" was
integrated into the auto body, the US called it the "trunk" and the
Brits never made the adaptation because they placed trunks in the "boot".

A stagecoach with rear and front "boot" indicated.
http://www.historicthedalles.org/images/stagecoach/stagecoach1.gif

...and a 1930 Lincoln with a "trunk" sitting on the "boot".
https://db.tt/k5FIQvrM


If you gave someone the trunk, they would be a lot happier than if you
gave them the boot.
Yes if you give someone the boot that can also be reffered to as giving them the sack.

Speaking of the word "sack", I know what "getting sacked" means and I've
heard some non-Brit Europeans use that term. We say "fired", not
sacked. When we purchase items from a store, they are put in a bag.
When I moved to Kansas City, Mo. about 30 years ago (I stayed for one
year), the first time I went grocery shopping I was asked if I'd like
them to sack my groceries. At first, it didn't register with me and I
remained silent for a few moments. I had never heard the word sack used
like that.





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PeterN