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Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-formatD5200



 
 
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Old October 17th 13, 12:59 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Default Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-formatD5200

Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-format D5200


http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/pr...consumer/d5300


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Old October 17th 13, 07:28 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Default Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-format D5200

On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:59:34 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-format D5200


http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/pr...consumer/d5300


And takes out the AA filter. Moire, here we come...
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Old October 18th 13, 08:08 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Default Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-formatD5200

On 17/10/2013 19:28, Bowser wrote:
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:59:34 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-format D5200


http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/pr...consumer/d5300


And takes out the AA filter. Moire, here we come...


I didn't spot that, thanks. Judging by my D5200 with a very similar
sensor, with the lenses I use the AA filter is doing very little, so for
a consumer product omission of the filter at the APC-S/24 MP level is
probably entirely justified. I'm certainly not going to be using it for
studio shoots of folk with check jackets.

Having said that, if you see any D5300 sample photos showing moiré
effects please let us know.
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Old October 18th 13, 05:36 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Default Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-formatD5200

On 10/18/2013 3:08 AM, David Taylor wrote:
On 17/10/2013 19:28, Bowser wrote:
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:59:34 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-format D5200


http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/pr...consumer/d5300


And takes out the AA filter. Moire, here we come...


I didn't spot that, thanks. Judging by my D5200 with a very similar
sensor, with the lenses I use the AA filter is doing very little, so for
a consumer product omission of the filter at the APC-S/24 MP level is
probably entirely justified. I'm certainly not going to be using it for
studio shoots of folk with check jackets.


Then if you go to the Czech Republic, go when it's warm. ;-)


Having said that, if you see any D5300 sample photos showing moiré
effects please let us know.



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Old October 18th 13, 07:08 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Default Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-format D5200

On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:28:42 -0400, Bowser wrote:

On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:59:34 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-format D5200


http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/pr...consumer/d5300


And takes out the AA filter. Moire, here we come...


Why? Probably the same sensor or a derivative of that used without an
AA filter in the D7100. How many complaints of moire' have you seen
for that camera?
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Old October 18th 13, 09:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Default Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-format D5200

On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 08:08:51 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

On 17/10/2013 19:28, Bowser wrote:
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:59:34 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-format D5200


http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/pr...consumer/d5300


And takes out the AA filter. Moire, here we come...


I didn't spot that, thanks. Judging by my D5200 with a very similar
sensor, with the lenses I use the AA filter is doing very little, so for
a consumer product omission of the filter at the APC-S/24 MP level is
probably entirely justified. I'm certainly not going to be using it for
studio shoots of folk with check jackets.

Having said that, if you see any D5300 sample photos showing moiré
effects please let us know.


I'm on the case.
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Old October 18th 13, 09:51 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Default Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-format D5200

On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 14:08:55 -0400, me wrote:

On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:28:42 -0400, Bowser wrote:

On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:59:34 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-format D5200


http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/pr...consumer/d5300


And takes out the AA filter. Moire, here we come...


Why? Probably the same sensor or a derivative of that used without an
AA filter in the D7100. How many complaints of moire' have you seen
for that camera?


Just a few shots where it's visible in shots of clothing. I don't
really care since I don't use one and never will. Just an observation,
that's all.
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Old October 19th 13, 07:37 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
David Taylor
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Default Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-formatD5200

On 18/10/2013 21:51, Bowser wrote:
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Just a few shots where it's visible in shots of clothing. I don't
really care since I don't use one and never will. Just an observation,
that's all.


Thanks, although a URL would have helped. Were those shots with
"consumer" lenses, or with top-end "professional" lenses?

But remember that AA filters are not perfect, and likely that /some/
aliasing may have been visible in those shots even with an AA filter
present, albeit less than without a filter.

Thanks, anyway.
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Old October 19th 13, 02:42 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Default Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-format D5200

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 07:37:13 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

On 18/10/2013 21:51, Bowser wrote:
[]
Just a few shots where it's visible in shots of clothing. I don't
really care since I don't use one and never will. Just an observation,
that's all.


Thanks, although a URL would have helped. Were those shots with
"consumer" lenses, or with top-end "professional" lenses?

But remember that AA filters are not perfect, and likely that /some/
aliasing may have been visible in those shots even with an AA filter
present, albeit less than without a filter.

Thanks, anyway.


NP.

http://inet.detik.com/read/2013/02/2...ke-nikon-d7100
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Old October 19th 13, 07:46 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
David Taylor
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Default Nikon D5300 - adds built-in Wi-Fi and GPS to the 24 MP DX-formatD5200

On 19/10/2013 14:42, Bowser wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 07:37:13 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

On 18/10/2013 21:51, Bowser wrote:
[]
Just a few shots where it's visible in shots of clothing. I don't
really care since I don't use one and never will. Just an observation,
that's all.


Thanks, although a URL would have helped. Were those shots with
"consumer" lenses, or with top-end "professional" lenses?

But remember that AA filters are not perfect, and likely that /some/
aliasing may have been visible in those shots even with an AA filter
present, albeit less than without a filter.

Thanks, anyway.


NP.

http://inet.detik.com/read/2013/02/2...ke-nikon-d7100


Good start, moiré is obvious there - however:

- The shot wasn't taken with a D5300, albeit a similar sensor.

- I can't find what lens that was taken with - EXIF data is missing.

- Let's see the same shot but with an AA filter.

I expect that a small amount of defocusing, or stopping down to the
diffraction limit might resolve the issue enough, but even with an AA
filter some moiré would likely remain.

If it's a serious problem the camera may not sell as well. If someone
gave me a D5300 I would jump at it!

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