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Pentax K10D or Canon 30D
Getting ready to finally take the plunge here after sitting on the
sidelines (and having the use of a *ist DS) I've narrowed it down to the 30D and K10D. I like the 30D for the fast 5fps as I take a lot of sports photos, but think I may be able to live with the K10D's 3 fps (if it really is that fast, the 2fps the *ist is supposed to get I have never been able to do) Economic's as well as being a long time Pentax user may factor in favour of the K10D, the camera being cheaper to begin with and if I buy the body only I can use any one of my 28-70 af lenses from my MZ10's & MZ7 as well as some of my older K mount primes and zooms. However I am still impressed with the 30D, nothing I have been able to find in its price range can match the fps speed, and I've read that the larger megapixels with the same size sensor is not neccesarily a good thing (more noise etc.) So, for under 1000C$ I can get going with the K10D, but will using it with the older autofocus lenses from my film camera's be satisfactory or should I spring for one of the lenses made specifically for the digital? 75% of my shooting will be with one of these utility lenses, but I do do some with my older 80-200 and my old 50mm super takumar (with k adaptor) The 30d will set me back quite a bit more, but if I spring for a decent lens (28-300ish) it would do for pretty well all my shooting. decisions decisions... |
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Pentax K10D or Canon 30D
So, for under 1000C$ I can get going with the K10D, but will using it
with the older autofocus lenses from my film camera's be satisfactory or should I spring for one of the lenses made specifically for the digital? By all accounts, you don't need digital-specific lenses to get good results. Some folks have reported being disappointed with the metering on older lenses - specifically, I believe, those with no "A" position. The claim is that the metering works well when relatively wide open, but gets a bit off as you stop down (it decreases the shutter speed, of cours,e but not necessarily by wquite the right amount). Some claim further that this is related to the focusing screen - putting in a different one seems to solve the problem. I guess the idea is that the meter is being confused by the amount of light coming in from the viewfinder or perhaps being reflected off it. Anyhow, others claim there is no problem at all, and in any cases, sheesh, this is digital: take a test shot, check the histogram, and set your own exposure! --------------- Marc Sabatella Music, art, & educational materials Featuring "A Jazz Improvisation Primer" http://www.outsideshore.com/ |
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Pentax K10D or Canon 30D
GS wrote:
or should I spring for one of the lenses made specifically for the digital? Only if you want to save weight. Those lenses specifically made for DSLRs have a smaller picture suited only for the smaller sensor but not for the larger film. Therefore they can be made smaller, lighter and cheaper. But on the other hand of course designers are pushing the limits within those smaller boundaries now just as they did with lenses for film cameras. That means when using lenses which were designed for film cameras a DSLR with its smaller sensor would pick up only the center of the picture and ignore the weak edges and corners. Now with the redesigned smaller picture for DSLRs the weak edges and corners are back within the borders of the sensor. jue |
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Pentax K10D or Canon 30D
K10d: you have lenses, camera has image stabilization, same sensor as in
Nikon and Sony Canon: ? How is this a hard decision? |
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Pentax K10D or Canon 30D
gowanoh wrote:
K10d: you have lenses, camera has image stabilization, same sensor as in Nikon and Sony Canon: ? How is this a hard decision? Canon - 5fps (big plus), stellar reputation from what I have read on this group and other reviews. However, the scales are in the K10D's favour right now. As far as IS goes, I don't really see the need for it, but then again I've never used it, other than perhaps eliminating the need for a tripod on those borderline 1/30th shots etc.? The only person I know that has used IS has a K100 and he says that if he tries to shoot without it the results are usually less than stellar, but he is not a serious photographer and I have no idea what conditions or settings he was using. |
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Pentax K10D or Canon 30D
jean wrote:
If your Pentax lenses have fast focus motors, then stay with Pentax. 5fps is nice as long as the lenses can follow, in the Canon system, only the very best lenses can do that. None of my Pentax lenses have focus motors. The motors in my cameras are all in the body. The first consumer grade auto focus camera ever (a Pentax) had the motor in the lens, but they quickly canceled that idea. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/technology/AF/index.html mike |
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Pentax K10D or Canon 30D
"GS" a écrit dans le message de news:4tzbi.17662$vT6.16028@edtnps90... Getting ready to finally take the plunge here after sitting on the sidelines (and having the use of a *ist DS) I've narrowed it down to the 30D and K10D. I like the 30D for the fast 5fps as I take a lot of sports photos, but think I may be able to live with the K10D's 3 fps (if it really is that fast, the 2fps the *ist is supposed to get I have never been able to do) Economic's as well as being a long time Pentax user may factor in favour of the K10D, the camera being cheaper to begin with and if I buy the body only I can use any one of my 28-70 af lenses from my MZ10's & MZ7 as well as some of my older K mount primes and zooms. However I am still impressed with the 30D, nothing I have been able to find in its price range can match the fps speed, and I've read that the larger megapixels with the same size sensor is not neccesarily a good thing (more noise etc.) So, for under 1000C$ I can get going with the K10D, but will using it with the older autofocus lenses from my film camera's be satisfactory or should I spring for one of the lenses made specifically for the digital? 75% of my shooting will be with one of these utility lenses, but I do do some with my older 80-200 and my old 50mm super takumar (with k adaptor) The 30d will set me back quite a bit more, but if I spring for a decent lens (28-300ish) it would do for pretty well all my shooting. decisions decisions... If your Pentax lenses have fast focus motors, then stay with Pentax. 5fps is nice as long as the lenses can follow, in the Canon system, only the very best lenses can do that. Something to think about... Jean |
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"m II" wrote in message news:xXIbi.22086$nx3.20036@edtnps89... jean wrote: If your Pentax lenses have fast focus motors, then stay with Pentax. 5fps is nice as long as the lenses can follow, in the Canon system, only the very best lenses can do that. None of my Pentax lenses have focus motors. The motors in my cameras are all in the body. The first consumer grade auto focus camera ever (a Pentax) had the motor in the lens, but they quickly canceled that idea. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/technology/AF/index.html mike But they are bringing them back in their premium lenses. |
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Pentax K10D or Canon 30D
Pete D wrote:
"m II" wrote in message news:xXIbi.22086$nx3.20036@edtnps89... jean wrote: If your Pentax lenses have fast focus motors, then stay with Pentax. 5fps is nice as long as the lenses can follow, in the Canon system, only the very best lenses can do that. None of my Pentax lenses have focus motors. The motors in my cameras are all in the body. The first consumer grade auto focus camera ever (a Pentax) had the motor in the lens, but they quickly canceled that idea. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/technology/AF/index.html mike But they are bringing them back in their premium lenses. Thanks all for the replies. As it stands now, the K10D is the front runner, I can find a brand new body for just under C$800, which is a huge savings over the 30D. Plus, to the best of my knowledge the lenses from my MZ's should work fine, but I'm going to try the *ist DS I have access to with them just to make sure.. |
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GS wrote:
However, the scales are in the K10D's favour right now. As far as IS goes, I don't really see the need for it, but then again I've never used it, other than perhaps eliminating the need for a tripod on those borderline 1/30th shots etc.? Try taking a 1/40s shot with effectively 320mm ... -Wolfgang |
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