Windows 10 - Day 1

On 06/18/2016 12:10 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Ken Hart
wrote:


"He has a grander vision, however, of turning Ubuntu into an
all-encompassing platform on phones, tablets, PCs, servers, and
the
infrastructure underlying cloud services. As Shuttleworth said,
"In
my mind the scope of the opportunity has grown, and with it my
willingness to invest. I'm interested in the type of disruption,
in
the idea that at some future date you could have an app running
on
your phone, that app could be an Ubuntu app, you could dock that
app to a big screen, and it would then be an Ubuntu PC. The data
for that could be processed in a cloud running an Ubuntu guest
and
that cloud could be running on an Ubuntu host."

he's *completely* delusional.

there's no way any rational person can believe that.

If you had any real economic vision. you would not have the need, or
time, to be so confrontational.

there's nothing confrontational about what i said.

anyone who thinks ubuntu is going to do even a fraction of that is well
beyond delusional. whatever it is they're smokin', they've had *way*
too much.

In your opinion. That I would not invest in any company basing its
business model on Linux, is my opinion. You certainly are free to state
your opinion, but do label it as such, not as a fact.

it's a fact that what he described will not happen.

It isn't a fact: it's an opinion. It won't be a fact until
Shuttleworth gives up.

put it this way: the chances of it happening are close enough to be
zero to be considered zero.

you can argue all day long that it's not zero, so there's still a tiny,
tiny chance it might happen, which may be technically true, but the
fact is that there is not a single scenario where even a fraction of
what he describes can happen.

you are more likely to win the lottery more than once. seriously.

In your opinion.

it's a fact.

According to

http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/...-lottery-more-
than-once/

"In 2010, Joan Ginther scratched away at her $50 ³$140 Million Extreme
Payout² lottery ticket to reveal a whopping $10 Million prize. This is
the moment that most lotto players live for, but for Joan Ginther, it
was just business as usual. Her new $10 Million was her fourth big
lottery win. This big win was preceded with three other wins * a $5.3
Million Texas Lotto win in 1993, a $2 Million win in 2006, and a $3
Million win in 2008."

"Robert Hamilton of Indiana beat the odds and hit one of eight top
prizes in the Hoosier Lottery in just three months. His first win was a
$1 Million prize in April of this year. Hamilton used the winnings to
buy a home, pay off all his debts, and the rest was invested into his
business. Three months later Hamilton won an additional $1 Million prize. "

There are others.

you've just proved my point.

How did I do that? You said "you are more likely to win the lottery more
than once. seriously.", and I cited a link showing people who had
serious lottery winnings more than once. Your logic is flawed. seriously.


meanwhile, canonical is losing money and linux share is shrinking, with
*no* indication that's going to change any time soon, if ever.

According to W3Schools.com, "a website for people with an interest for
web technologies", Linux share has been steadily albeit slowly growing.
In 2003, Linux was at 2.6%, edging out Mac at 2.2%. Win XP and 2000 were
the clear winners at 42.6% and 36.3%.
In May 2016, Linux was at 5.6%, Mac at 10.2%, Win7 at 40.7%.
Their stats show Linux and Mac share to be slowly but steadily growing
at the expense of Windows. seriously.
While Mac has surpassed Linux, Apple's ad budget has surely outpaced the
Linux ad budget! seriously.

Your opinion notwithstanding, Linux share is NOT shrinking. seriously.

his goal of having the same app running on a phone and a desktop
computer makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. they're two totally
different user interface paradigms. users don't want the same apps on
both, as microsoft found out the hard way.

ubuntu phone is dead on arrival because there are no apps. without
apps, nobody is going to even consider it. users want apps, including
facebook, snapchat, instagram, whatsapp, spotify, netflix, banking
apps, games and much more.

windows phone, which has many of the major titles, still lacks some key
apps along with the diverse selection of ios/android, and is one of the
reasons why it failed.

users also want a mobile payment solution (e.g., apple pay, android
pay, samsung pay), yet another feature that ubuntu phone lacks and
something it will *never* get since that requires partnering with banks
and credit card companies. apple and google are having enough trouble
doing that as it is. samsung pay spoofs the magstripe (not secure) and
they own that technology.

You know what users want because...

And Canonical will "never" partner with banks and credit card companies
because...

I have a mobile payment solution- had it for maybe thirty years now. It
works just fine and never needs to be plugged in for charging. seriously.

he also needs to partner with the cellular carriers and they're not
going to do that because there's no reason for them to do that. without
cellular partners, it's a guaranteed fail.

there are a several *billion* mac/windows/ios/android devices out
there, and he thinks ubuntu is somehow going to overtake all of that?

it won't.

In your opinion. seriously.



--
Ken Hart