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Google Pixel 5 camera and photos issues
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 10:48:50 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
Mine, as reported by apps_packages_info, is version 6.1.012.220043556 o com.google.android.GoogleCamera I had to go to google play to get this info; it used to be available through the Settings menu. Hmph. Anyway, 7.5.107.326blablabla updated Aug 13 2020. Thanks for that information as it's critical to know the version of the Google Camera app com.google.android.GoogleCamera because the 7.x version definitely has more stuff than does the 6.x version ported to my Motorola. o *Google Pixel 5 camera and photos issues* https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/XE-Gl97h5HI If anyone knows, offhand, of the 7.x port for non-Google Android phones, please do let us know as I don't keep up with such stuff. I'm updating all the apps that need it right now. It won't tell me how many are being updated unless I set the screen fonts to smaller than I actually want. Assholes never heard of word wrap? Hehhehheh... as an octogenarian, I know the eye problems all too well. In fact, I hadn't even thought of landscape until you mentioned it, but _most_ of the app version reporting freeware tools truncate the version info. That's kind of why I recommend app_packages_info, because it will wrap text, but I hadn't thought of landscaping it until you mentioned that. o https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.oF2pks.applicationsinfo/ Application Inspector also wraps the version text quite nicely: o https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubqsoft.sec01 See also: o How do you find the unique app package real name on your Android device? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/4TcwyAcSPqM o Freeware "App Inspector" by Ubqsoft [free, no ads, GSF independent] lists installed apps & their "secret" permissions [apparently] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/3MEPsDCDCSs This is a constant annoyance. I really like ES File Explorer, but a lot of the fonts it uses are too small and GREY for easy viewing. It's not the only app like this, just the one I use most :-( I gave up on ES File Explorer when they went over to the dark side a couple of years ago. Maybe they've been cleaned up since? o Google removes ES File Explorer from Google Play, by Carlos ER https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.mobile.android/ES$20File$20Explorer|sort:date/comp.mobile.android/E55vZnUnjzU/bsN4kEdMAQAJ On my system, I have a few file explorers, each a bit different 1. MiX 2. Amaze 3. OI File Man... 4. File Manager 5. Dir 6. Simple Explo 7. Files 8. X-plore 9. Cx File Expl... 10. FX We should probably start a thread on the best file explorers. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/E55vZnUnjzU/EvAKVzC4AAAJ -- Freeware requires everyone to pitch in because of the tests required. |
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Google Pixel 5 camera and photos issues
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 09:49:42 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
What I want mostly is a quick and easy transfer of photos and other files between my phone and my computer. The operative words here are QUICK and EASY with an absolute minimum of thumb-typing. NO thumb-typing is best! On Android, we need a tutorial on fully automatic Wi-Fi LAN photo sync! I'm with you on quick, free, automatic, as you're quite well aware. o The problem with Android is there are too many solutions to test out. How I copy photos today has only one flaw, which is kind of a PITA though. o I connect by USB and slide the photos/videos bidirectionally as desired What's a PITA is that Windows takes a while to "enumerate" those files o Noticeable when there are tens of thousands of photos to be slid over What I should investigate are the "automatic" file-transfer solutions o Particularly an automatic solution that works over the Wi-Fi LAN. I started that quest more than a year ago, but haven't fully followed thru: o Do you have a working freeware automatic sync between Android & Windows? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/7aOWwoEwsZ0 -- On Android, we need a tutorial on fully automatic Wi-Fi LAN photo sync! |
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Google Pixel 5 camera and photos issues
Arlen Holder posted:
I gave up on ES File Explorer when they went over to the dark side a couple of years ago. Maybe they've been cleaned up since? I still don't see the original ES File Explorer in the Google Play Store though there are several lookalikes with ES in their name. Google removes ES File Explorer from Google Play, by Carlos ER Surprisingly ES File Explorer was never kicked out of the Amazon App Store. However the version currently available there requires an internal upgrade to 'Premium' if you want to do anything substantial (like transferring internal files to a SD card). Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on one's paranoia) many original older ES versions still work just fine. BTW the Amazon App Store can be sideloaded to most normal Android tablets if one needs more variety than from the millions of apps available in the other stores. But most of of Amazon's apps won't run unless the app store is installed also. So you can't get rid of the store and just use the app. And you thought Google was sneaky... On my system, I have a few file explorers, each a bit different 1. MiX 2. Amaze 3. OI File Man... 4. File Manager 5. Dir 6. Simple Explo 7. Files 8. X-plore 9. Cx File Expl... 10. FX Gosh Arlen I am truly amazed that 'Files by Google' isn't on your list. It works great, perhaps even better than the sneaky old ES File Explorer IMO... |
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Google Pixel 5 camera and photos issues
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 10:05:35 -0700, 123456789 wrote:
On my system, I have a few file explorers, each a bit different 1. MiX 2. Amaze 3. OI File Man... 4. File Manager 5. Dir 6. Simple Explo 7. Files 8. X-plore 9. Cx File Expl... 10. FX Gosh Arlen I am truly amazed that 'Files by Google' isn't on your list. It works great, perhaps even better than the sneaky old ES File Explorer IMO... We probably need a thread on the best Android freeware file manager apps. Here are my ten file manager apps, ordered from best to worst, so far: o https://i.postimg.cc/Hxj3qWZS/filemgr01.jpg I test many apps, as you're well aware, where my approach is to install those which are listed numerous times on the "ten best" lists (most of those "reviews" are shills though - but it's what we have to work with). Then, I use those apps. o The instant they do something obnoxious, I delete them within a second. When they do something "nice", I instantly move them further forward... o And, if they're really useful, I change the name, e.g., to "use this!". These ten file-manager apps are left simply because they weren't obnoxious: o https://i.postimg.cc/Hxj3qWZS/filemgr01.jpg -- We probably need a thread on the best Android freeware file manager apps. |
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Google Pixel 5 camera and photos issues
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Arlen Holder posted: I gave up on ES File Explorer when they went over to the dark side a couple of years ago. Maybe they've been cleaned up since? I still don't see the original ES File Explorer in the Google Play Store though there are several lookalikes with ES in their name. Exactly! Saying 'ES File Explorer' is mostly meaningless, because - as you say - there are may others with 'ES' in their name, one of them even 'Es File Explorer', i.e. with a lowercase 's'. Adding insult to injury, there are other apps with similar icons - 'ES' in a cloud, or 'EZ' in a cloud, or just 'ES' or ... ad infinitum. See https://play.google.com/store/search?q=ES%20file%20exporer&c=apps I stopped counting how many there are. Google removes ES File Explorer from Google Play, by Carlos ER The 'original' one-and-only ES File Explorer had Google Play id "id=com.estrongs.android.pop". That is the best/only way to uniquely identify *which* 'ES File Explorer' one is talking about. If you have the original one and do an 'About', it will say something like "About Official website www.estrongs.com (C)2009-2015, ES APP Group" The website still exists and has a version 4.2.2.9.2 APK. It's kind of funny to see that the iOS version *is* still in the App Store (change 'cn' in the URL to 'us' to see the English entry)! And there's a Mac version! So Windows lusers, eat your heart out! :-) (For some reason the iTunes Store hangs for me! Lucky escape!) Surprisingly ES File Explorer was never kicked out of the Amazon App Store. However the version currently available there requires an internal upgrade to 'Premium' if you want to do anything substantial (like transferring internal files to a SD card). Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on one's paranoia) many original older ES versions still work just fine. So Android with the Amazon App Store, your device being somewhat like an Apple wannabe! :-) [...] |
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Google Pixel 5 camera and photos issues
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 10:52:42 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
For some reason I can't see my computer via the LAN, only FTP. One more weird thing which has been pondered over by genuine experts. There is a _lot_ we can do on a mobile device using the power of Windows! o Tutorial to run any Windows command directly on Android over either USB or Wi-Fi https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/JrWLPRYO-TU It's actually surprisingly shocking how much power Windows has on Android: o From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/vmWWLzPHKt0 Look at this picture I just uploaded for you of my USB connections: o https://i.postimg.cc/zf1t61KW/copyfiles02.jpg Notice there is an iOS device, an iPod, an Android device, & others. o From Windows, I slide files to/from any of those devices to/from Windows Here's a screenshot I posted yesterday for another copy thread: o https://i.postimg.cc/DZB9YDcR/copyfiles01.jpg Most file copies are done from Windows/Linux - not from the device o Where Windows/Linux can "see" the entire device visible file system The key difference is that the "visible" file system is greater for Android o And, for iOS devices, the "visible" file system is greater using Linux And, for Apple products, it's usually one-way (by default) o Although, for me, it's bidirectional read & write for both iOS & iPod But that's because I know the tricks to make iOS & iPod fully read/write o Which, interestingly, almost no Apple users ever seem to know. Sometimes I "push" the files over the Wi-Fi LAN from the device though. o For that, I set up a third-party SMB server on Android or iOS o How to mount the entire mobile device file system on Windows https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/ix8xgTcexAY/dlY4nLMfAgAJ With ES File Explorer I created a 'shortcut' for the subdirectory that contains my photos. I also created/found/whatever an FTP connection to a subdirectory on my computer. I tap the shortcut, select SELECT ALL, tap COPY, tap the 'hamburger' at upper left, tap the FTP connection and tap PASTE. I used to have a shortcut for the FTP subdirectory, but that doesn't work any more. This is just as easy. I agree it's trivial to copy files to/from Android to/from Windows/Linux: o How do you copy photos over USB from Android to Windows? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/X9sUE-ATG94 As you noted, for some tasks, even ancient FTP works well for file copies. o FTP can even be used to "mount" the device as a Windows drive letter. Which means, from Windows, you can make shortcuts to do neat copying stuff. o Tutorial: How to connect Android to Windows as a drive letter over a Wi-Fi LAN for free simple reliable bidirectional copy https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/9Lu2_dPsu6o You'd think SMB would work better with Windows, but there are limits: o What's the best way to forward SMB TCP port 445 to something higher than 1024 on Windows? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/3QQ8bAZeXNI o Do you know of a free Android SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/tl3Q05QGyAw o How can I modify a Windows shortcut to mount as a specified drive letter? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/6pwyTqYAhE0 o Does freeware exist on Windows that will mount (as a drive letter) Android connected via USB as MTP? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/TaIlIMK2Nuw o KDE Connect is a keeper for sending & receiving files over your Wi-Fi LAN to/from any desktop to/from any Android phone! https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/4x1rf1JefW8 o Does anyone have libmtp freeware currently working on Linux or Windows who can show us how to COPY files to/from unrooted Android over USB using libmtp? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/8ICXfG2MIrs o Why would SMB seem to be more reliable than WebDav or FTP or KDEConnect, etc., for Wi-Fi "network connections" between Android & Windows? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/KAr3I1KY8Gg I have separate shortcuts for the native Camera app and the OpenCamera app that doesn't change mode stupidly. I suppose I could combine the two, but I'd just as soon leave defaults alone when it doesn't actually hurt. Then I delete the photos from my phone, possibly moving a few of them to the SAVE subdirectory. That seems like a usable system. o For me, the only PITA is how long Windows takes to enumerate many photos. I should set up a freeware Wi-Fi LAN based _automatic_ photo copy. o I just haven't attacked that problem set in earnest yet. What's a PITA is that Windows takes a while to "enumerate" those files o Noticeable when there are tens of thousands of photos to be slid over Linux. I just use my windows computer for stuff that requires windows -- mainly just tax software and the occasional Garmin update. Linux works quite well, and not only with Android. o Linux turns the entire visible file system of iOS devices read/write! o How to mount the entire mobile device file system on Linux https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/6PQmYWSk34I In fact, Linux works best with iOS - far better than does even Windows: o Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/WohhLOTCYKw o An elegant solution to managing digital files on ANY iOS, Android, Windows, or Linux device SIMULTANEOUSLY over USB using zero additional software (other than the native OS) https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/H6T7KqzR_ww What I should investigate are the "automatic" file-transfer solutions o Particularly an automatic solution that works over the Wi-Fi LAN. shudder As soon as I discovered that the Pixel was automatically sending my photos to Google I turned that off. I transfer photos to my computer, edit them, and upload the edited versions (smaller, FREE storage) to Google Photos. Understood. When I say "automatic", I mean local to my own LAN only. o Do you have a working freeware automatic sync between Android & Windows? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/7aOWwoEwsZ0 I _never_ want to put anything on the net that I don't have to! o Do people of reasonable technical ability store their private data on the Internet (if so, for what gain?) https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/mBIZ-8jGdmk I started that quest more than a year ago, but haven't fully followed thru: o Do you have a working freeware automatic sync between Android & Windows? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/7aOWwoEwsZ0 Ew. I need to check to see if I can see my computer via LAN if I hook it up via USB... I'm confused whose "file manager" you're speaking about in that sentence: a. Do you try to see Windows' file system from Android? (which you can do) b. Do you try to see Android's file system from Windows? (it's the default) Which direction are you _trying_ to see the other device from? A. From Android? B. From Windows? o When you plug in your phone to usb on your computer, does your file system mount on Windows 10? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/qxztHvQevDY -- The entire Android filesys can be "mounted" as a drive letter on Windows. |
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Google Pixel 5 camera and photos issues
On 21 Oct 2020 18:07:34 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Official website www.estrongs.com (C)2009-2015, ES APP Group" The website still exists and has a version 4.2.2.9.2 APK. It's kind of funny to see that the iOS version *is* still in the App Store (change 'cn' in the URL to 'us' to see the English entry)! And there's a Mac version! So Windows lusers, eat your heart out! :-) (For some reason the iTunes Store hangs for me! Lucky escape!) Thanks for that information, Frank, as I avoid ES File Explorer ever since I heard from Carlos that it had gone over to the dark side (it was probably secretly on the dark side all along though - they likely got me already). o https://i.postimg.cc/Hxj3qWZS/filemgr01.jpg Looking at your links, here's what it looks like with 'cn' instead of 'com' o https://i.postimg.cc/X7b6g3CK/filemgr02.jpg Mac: (the link uses the "itmss" protocol apparently, whatever that is) o https://apps.apple.com/cn/app/id1499026047 iOS: o https://apps.apple.com/cn/app/id1441621965 o https://i.postimg.cc/CxMyWNJz/filemgr03.jpg Android: o http://s.duapps.com/apks/own/ESFileExplorer-V4.2.2.9.2.apk Name: ESFileExplorer-V4.2.2.9.2.apk Size: 23647579 bytes (22 MiB) SHA256: 8ADBCD5CD2F4E0EE2317D02FA2F04C032DE3E36685E74276C2 E30A29BC1AA80B -- We all need to each of us together when choosing the best freeware. |
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Google Pixel 5 camera and photos issues
The Real Bev wrote:
On 10/21/2020 11:36 AM, Arlen Holder wrote: On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 10:52:42 -0700, The Real Bev wrote: With ES File Explorer I created a 'shortcut' for the subdirectory that contains my photos. I also created/found/whatever an FTP connection to a subdirectory on my computer. I tap the shortcut, select SELECT ALL, tap COPY, tap the 'hamburger' at upper left, tap the FTP connection and tap PASTE. I used to have a shortcut for the FTP subdirectory, but that doesn't work any more. This is just as easy. I agree it's trivial to copy files to/from Android to/from Windows/Linux: o How do you copy photos over USB from Android to Windows? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/X9sUE-ATG94 I've never wanted to do that. I haven't figured out the proper syntax to suck in files from my windows machine (I used to be able to do that, but Something Has Changed) with my linux machine so if I want to copy my tax pdfs to the windows machine I just do it from the windows machine with copy+paste. What I should investigate are the "automatic" file-transfer solutions o Particularly an automatic solution that works over the Wi-Fi LAN. shudder As soon as I discovered that the Pixel was automatically sending my photos to Google I turned that off. I transfer photos to my computer, edit them, and upload the edited versions (smaller, FREE storage) to Google Photos. Understood. When I say "automatic", I mean local to my own LAN only. o Do you have a working freeware automatic sync between Android & Windows? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/7aOWwoEwsZ0 I _never_ want to put anything on the net that I don't have to! It's handy putting my edited photos on the net. I can just give people links if I want to show them a photo. I really hate the way google photos does that now. I used to enable people to permanently view whole subdirectories (or the entire account), but now all the google-generated links die after 6 months. I suppose I can just do the link separately, though. Why did I not think of that until just this minute? I need to check to see if I can see my computer via LAN if I hook it up via USB... I'm confused whose "file manager" you're speaking about in that sentence: a. Do you try to see Windows' file system from Android? (which you can do) b. Do you try to see Android's file system from Windows? (it's the default) Windows is out of the picture. Transfers are between linux and android only. "File manager" refers to Android's ES File Manager. Computer=linux. I use a command in an xterm to do copies. Which direction are you _trying_ to see the other device from? A. From Android? B. From Windows? o When you plug in your phone to usb on your computer, does your file system mount on Windows 10? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/qxztHvQevDY I haven't tried mounting the phone to my linux computer, although I do that with my Nook reader. It's a nuisance to mount and unmount other filesystems so I try to do it as little as possible. Windows automounts, but if linux will do that I don't know about it and I wouldn't want to do it anyway. I also close applications individually when I shut my computer off... On Linux, try cat /proc/filesystems If mtpfs isn't listed there, then it's probably a fuse file system that needs to be installed. MTP is good for a variety of devices doing media transfer, but doesn't handle everything. MTP is the follow-on to PTP (picture transfer protocol). My point and shoot digital camera is USB mass storage, and so doesn't need MTP to get files off. MTP has the "advantage", that both processors (a desktop and the processor inside the device) can use the storage at the same time. Whereas USB mass storage, only one can have exclusive access at a time, and the other has to wait. But it's a rather clunky kind of thing, and not about to win any prizes. Google added a couple options to it, to try to make it more granular. Automounting, most of the time, is a double click and done thing. And a lot of the mounting can be done that way. (The mountpoint, a MKDIR, is done for you.) There are other cases, forensic recovery, where manual mount commands in command line, still have to be crafted. Paul |
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Google Pixel 5 camera and photos issues
On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 07:28:35 -0400, Paul wrote:
MTP has the "advantage", that both processors (a desktop and the processor inside the device) can use the storage at the same time. See also: o Does freeware exist on Windows that will mount (as a drive letter) Android connected via USB as MTP? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/TaIlIMK2Nuw o Does anyone have libmtp freeware currently working on Linux or Windows who can show us how to COPY files to/from unrooted Android over USB using libmtp? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/8ICXfG2MIrs |
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