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Canon Just announced the EOS-1D Mark III
On Feb 23, 7:43 pm, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number
wrote: I'm going to have a hard time not purchasing the new 1D when it becomes available... Like you, I was mopping up drool after reading about all the improved features and specs of the 1DMKIII. After seeing the sample images on dpreview, however, I feel I can hold off the jones. The sample shots were good, but they weren't "sell the car, I gotta have that camera!" good. Always ask yourself this: "What pics can I get with the new camera that I can't get with my current equipment?" In my case, I'd gain some speed but I'd lose on the telephoto end with the 1.3x crop factor instead of my current 1.6x. But if I shot a lot of sports, the new camera is a no-brainer. And you know that when Canon upgrades the 1DsMKII, that model is gonna be the daddy! Also, the timing of the release of the new 16-35 f/2.8L II is interesting. Since most of the improvement is reported to be at the edges of the images (and the corners), one wonders if a new FF body announcement isn't in the works. |
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Canon Just announced the EOS-1D Mark III
"Skip" wrote in message ... Trigger for what? The trigger for me to buy it. Ah, probably not a major consideration for Canon :-) MrT. |
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Canon Just announced the EOS-1D Mark III
"Mr.T" MrT@home wrote in message
u... "Skip" wrote in message ... Trigger for what? The trigger for me to buy it. Ah, probably not a major consideration for Canon :-) MrT. Probably not. But this part of the thread was a conversation between myself and "Rita." Not between myself and Canon. Also, it might be indicative of what it would take for someone, such as myself, to upgrade from the present 16-35 to the new one, if they already had the present iteration, which I do. -- Skip Middleton www.shadowcatcherimagery.com www.pbase.com/skipm |
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Canon Just announced the EOS-1D Mark III
"Skip" wrote in message ... Also, it might be indicative of what it would take for someone, such as myself, to upgrade from the present 16-35 to the new one, if they already had the present iteration, which I do. In fact the only things you would need to consider in that case is how much EXTRA you would need to pay after you sold your current lens, and whether the improvements would justify that extra expense, for YOU. I seriously doubt Canon expects the majority of buyers to be current owners though. MrT. |
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Canon Just announced the EOS-1D Mark III
"Mr.T" MrT@home wrote in message ... "Skip" wrote in message ... Also, it might be indicative of what it would take for someone, such as myself, to upgrade from the present 16-35 to the new one, if they already had the present iteration, which I do. In fact the only things you would need to consider in that case is how much EXTRA you would need to pay after you sold your current lens, and whether the improvements would justify that extra expense, for YOU. I seriously doubt Canon expects the majority of buyers to be current owners though. MrT. That, my friend, was the point to what I said. While Canon may not expect the majority of buyers to be current owners, I'll contend that they are betting on a considerable number of them moving from one to the other. -- Skip Middleton www.shadowcatcherimagery.com www.pbase.com/skipm |
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Canon Just announced the EOS-1D Mark III
Annika1980 wrote:
On Feb 23, 7:43 pm, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote: I'm going to have a hard time not purchasing the new 1D when it becomes available... Like you, I was mopping up drool after reading about all the improved features and specs of the 1DMKIII. After seeing the sample images on dpreview, however, I feel I can hold off the jones. That's the way I feel. The MKIII is not good enough to have me sell the MKII and get the MKIII. The sample shots were good, but they weren't "sell the car, I gotta have that camera!" good. The same thought crossed my mind too. Always ask yourself this: "What pics can I get with the new camera that I can't get with my current equipment?" In my case, I'd gain some speed but I'd lose on the telephoto end with the 1.3x crop factor instead of my current 1.6x. But if I shot a lot of sports, the new camera is a no-brainer. I have use of both x factors, the 1.3x and the 1.6x. Though I use the 1.3x MKII more than I use the 1.6x 30D I like having the 30D to fall back on when I need it. I think of the 1.6x as a means of doubling my lens inventory. And you know that when Canon upgrades the 1DsMKII, that model is gonna be the daddy! That's the camera that has me salivating. Also, the timing of the release of the new 16-35 f/2.8L II is interesting. Since most of the improvement is reported to be at the edges of the images (and the corners), one wonders if a new FF body announcement isn't in the works. I'm inclined to think a new FF is in the works. |
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Canon Just announced the EOS-1D Mark III
ASAAR wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:04:54 -0800, nick c wrote: About half the battery weight...much smaller size...and about double the shot capacity... . . . Thanks for the info., Mark. With such an improvement in the power source, I would agree, it would be tough to complain about the difference in battery design which will, no doubt, change again. But I'm still happy to keep using my 1.3x 1DMKII and can see no reason for me trade it off for an improved 1.3x MKIII. A change in camera body equipment won't cause a drastic improvement in my present technical photographic skills (which may stand some improving, as I'm open to new ideas and techniques) nor in the type subject matter I like to photograph. The new battery is certainly lighter but the large NP-E3 is almost certainly using *old* NiMH AA cells that were never replaced as battery technology improved. They're rated at 1650mAh and if an NP-E3b used the latest 2,700mAh cells the weight would remain the same but the battery life would nearly double. I haven't had any problems with any of the NP-E3 batteries that I have. Neither have I had a condition where I wished I had more battery life so I could continue taking pictures. If I have a full day planned for picture taking, I generally take two fully charged batteries, one in the camera and one spare. Rarely have I needed to use the spare. If I'm using the 30D, I take generally four fully charged batteries; two in the camera and two spares. Batteries and/or battery life has not been a problem for me. I read someone's recent comment (yours?) that they were still using a bunch of NP-E3 batteries, some 7 years old. Wasn't me. But I am still using the original battery that came with the 1DMKII when it first hit the open market and that's when I bought it. I can't recall how many times it has been charged but I can say it darn sure has seen a lot of use and it's still going strong. For that matter, so has the 1DMKII seen a lot of use with nary a problem. You can do that with NiMH but Li-Ion batteries will probably have to be replaced at least a couple of times if the MKIII is used for seven years. Not that I'm a big fan of battery packs that use so many cells. If you're not careful they're easy to be mistreated, and then they'll not last anywhere near seven years. I have six NP-E3 batteries and I have no doubt the 1DMKII camera fill wear out before the batteries fail to function properly. My interest, aside from lenses, is in a FF camera like the 1DsMKII. However, I must say that I think the ideal camera is one that has the APS-H sensor with a 1.3x crop factor. |
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Canon Just announced the EOS-1D Mark III
MarkČ wrote:
nick c wrote: MarkČ wrote: nick c wrote: Wayne J. Cosshall wrote: Details are up on my site along with the other Canon releases just coming through: http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=893 Cheers, Wayne I received Canon's notice of the camera this morning and I read it uses an E4 battery instead of the E3 battery presently used in the 1DMKII. Since I'm not unhappy using the 1DMKII and have quite a few E3 batteries, I'm not too interested in the MKIII but I'm almost always interested in new lenses. About half the battery weight...much smaller size...and about double the shot capacity... Tough to complain. Thanks for the info., Mark. With such an improvement in the power source, I would agree, it would be tough to complain about the difference in battery design which will, no doubt, change again. But I'm still happy to keep using my 1.3x 1DMKII and can see no reason for me trade it off for an improved 1.3x MKIII. A change in camera body equipment won't cause a drastic improvement in my present technical photographic skills (which may stand some improving, as I'm open to new ideas and techniques) nor in the type subject matter I like to photograph. To be honest, there have been times when I miss film, especially slide film. Not too often, but there have been times. :-) I do understand your thinking, though. My 10D and 5D use my very old D30 batteries quite happily (they're coming up on 7 years old!), and I've always appreciated never having to carry a different battery type. I noticed that the new Rebel series is using a smaller battery now, so I'm wondering if this new size will migrate upward into the mid-level series (20/30D etc.) I've had the impression that the batteries for the 1 series are rather old tech, and from the specs listed for the new batteries, it appears the complaints were true. If my NP-E3 batteries are old tech, I couldn't care less. Reason being, I haven't yet encountered any problems using them. When problems arise, then it's time to think of solutions. It's my thought that NP-E3 batteries will be readily available for a long time and so will the BP-511 batteries. Nope, I don't think batteries, or the lack thereof, will be or become a problem. -When they can manage more than doublethe capacity...smart battery-level indicators...and only about half the size and weight, I have to concede that it's probably time to change. I have good battery life now, so battery life or a better battery life is not an issue with me. I avoid cameras that require special batteries that are unique to the camera; batteries that are not commonly used in other cameras. Cameras that use common batteries interest me. Frankly, with the amazing number of improvements presented in the latest 1D...I'd bet many will try to sell theirs, meaning they won't long care about the size/shape of their old batteries... Well, one of those many will not include me. Not enough there for me to cough up a couple of thousand plus buckaroos, sell my MKII and jump from my MKII to a MKIII. I'm going to have a hard time not purchasing the new 1D when it becomes available... At that point, I'll be stuck dealing with different batteries for my 5D...but I can deal with that. One could have worse problems... If that's what you want, Mark, then I wish you the best and when you get the camera I hope the camera serves you well. I just don't see a MKIII in my future. I'm as content using either of my cameras, the 1DMKII or the 30D, as a brown cow would be if it gave chocolate milk. MarkČ |
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Canon Just announced the EOS-1D Mark III
"Skip" wrote in message ... That, my friend, was the point to what I said. While Canon may not expect the majority of buyers to be current owners, I'll contend that they are betting on a considerable number of them moving from one to the other. And that's where we disagree. (for any normal definition of "considerable" anyway) MrT. |
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Canon Just announced the EOS-1D Mark III
"Mr.T" MrT@home wrote in message
... "Skip" wrote in message ... That, my friend, was the point to what I said. While Canon may not expect the majority of buyers to be current owners, I'll contend that they are betting on a considerable number of them moving from one to the other. And that's where we disagree. (for any normal definition of "considerable" anyway) MrT. If they expected the overwhelming majority of purchasers to be new buyers, then the upgrade wasn't really necessary. If you want a fast WA zoom that AFs on a Canon body, the 16-35 was the only game in town, anyway. In order to get people who already have that lens to buy a new one, they needed to address shortcomings, real or imagined, in the older lens. -- Skip Middleton www.shadowcatcherimagery.com www.pbase.com/skipm |
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