I hate environmentalists

These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,
the hemp-sandal wearing KOOKS who like to protest G20 meetings. It
reminds me of the YUPPIE, latte-sipping urban envirokooks in California
who banned mountain bikes from wilderness areas for "degrading to the
environment" while they rode 1500lb horses all over the same place.

amateurphotographer.com

Birdwatching photographers under fire in Peak District

Tuesday 7th April 2009
Chris Cheesman

Photographers' behaviour has been blamed for a fall in the survival rates
of nesting dipper birds in the Derbyshire Peak District, prompting an
appeal by conservationists.

'Unfortunately, disturbances at one or two of the key dipper sites has
had a direct and negative impact on their nesting success in recent
years,' said Phil Bowler, senior reserve manager at the Derbyshire Dales
National Nature Reserve.

If disturbed, dipper 'chicks' may leave their nest too early - increasing
their vulnerability to predators, warns the conservation watchdog Natural
England.

The risks to a bird's survival also include the attraction of predators
to the nest itself if it is disturbed as a result of it being inspected.

Natural England has issued written advice for photographers which states:
'A number of isolated instances of photographer behaviour have called
into question the ethics of some photographers.'

It continues: 'We do not wish to stop photography, but to encourage
photographers to behave in a responsible manner at nesting sites,
reducing disturbance levels to dippers as much as possible.'

The watchdog's advice leaflet warns photographers to not attempt any
photography during the nesting season (March to July) until they know
where the dipper's nest is. 'This may mean that you will need to retreat
a few metres and watch the movements of the birds until you have located
it [the nest].'

The leaflet was drawn up with the help of photographer Paul Hobson who
said: 'As a photographer, I know that it is entirely possible to get
shots of these beautiful birds successfully, without disturbing them.'

Hobson, whose work has been featured in Amateur Photographer, added: 'We
are hoping photographers and other interested people understand the
reasons behind this code of conduct and follow it.'

Bowler said he hopes the leaflet will raise awareness of the problem
among photographers and casual visitors. He added: 'Simple things such as
limiting the time at the site can make a real difference.'

The advice concludes by telling photographers: 'The welfare of the
subject is more important than your photography.'

Rich wrote:
These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,

As opposed to you people who want the freedom to kill anything and
steal anything that isn't nailed down?

--
Ray Fischer

Ray Fischer wrote:
Rich wrote:
These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,

As opposed to you people who want the freedom to kill anything and
steal anything that isn't nailed down?

He is well known in other groups as a longstanding redneck troll and
wannbe member of "Fat Ugly Americans for a Dead Planet". He is
apparently a Canuk.

The advice from natural England on how to locate rare ground nesting
birds nests for photography without disturbing them seemed OK to me.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Martin Brown wrote in
:

Ray Fischer wrote:
Rich wrote:
These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their
kind,

As opposed to you people who want the freedom to kill anything and
steal anything that isn't nailed down?

He is well known in other groups as a longstanding redneck troll and
wannbe member of "Fat Ugly Americans for a Dead Planet". He is
apparently a Canuk.


No, Americans see everything in black and white. So, if you hate
environmentalists, you must be for environmental exploitation. Personally?
I'd like to see every 4x4 off roader, powerboat driver, shot at close
range. There is a difference between hating leftwing reactionary enviro-
KOOKS and having disdain for nature. There endeth the lesson.

(Ray Fischer) wrote in news:49dd5e72$0$1600
:

Rich wrote:
These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,

As opposed to you people who want the freedom to kill anything and
steal anything that isn't nailed down?


That would be the Chinese. Which is why 1/2 the animal species in Asia are
in danger.

Rich wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in news:49dd5e72$0$1600
Rich wrote:

These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,

As opposed to you people who want the freedom to kill anything and
steal anything that isn't nailed down?

That would be the Chinese.

Who also have little regard for the environment.

Which is why 1/2 the animal species in Asia are
in danger.

Something for which you can be proud.

--
Ray Fischer

On 4/8/09 11:34 PM, in article ,
"John A." wrote:

On 09 Apr 2009 02:33:22 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:

Rich wrote:
These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,

As opposed to you people who want the freedom to kill anything and
steal anything that isn't nailed down?

Folks like that remind me of little brothers. There's one cookie left
for them and their older brother. They want it all and their brother
wants to split it evenly. Their mom says split it evenly. So the
little brother screams and hollers that it's no fair their older
brother got he they wanted and they didn't.

"Their mom says split it evenly. So the little brother screams and hollers
that it's no fair their older brother got he they wanted and they didn't."

WTF are you trying to say here?

On 4/9/09 10:23 PM, in article ,
"John A." wrote:

On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:25:34 -0500, George Kerby
wrote:




On 4/8/09 11:34 PM, in article ,
"John A." wrote:

On 09 Apr 2009 02:33:22 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:

Rich wrote:
These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,

As opposed to you people who want the freedom to kill anything and
steal anything that isn't nailed down?

Folks like that remind me of little brothers. There's one cookie left
for them and their older brother. They want it all and their brother
wants to split it evenly. Their mom says split it evenly. So the
little brother screams and hollers that it's no fair their older
brother got he they wanted and they didn't.

"Their mom says split it evenly. So the little brother screams and hollers
that it's no fair their older brother got he they wanted and they didn't."

WTF are you trying to say here?

There's a typo the "he they" should be "what he". I originally
typed "what they" and when I meant to change "they" to "he" I
accidentally changed "what" to "he" instead.

But just in case that wasn't the confusing part for everyone...

The little brother wanted the whole thing.
The older brother wanted to share.
Mom said share.
The little brother claimed that wasn't fair because the older brother
got what he wanted and the little brother didn't.

Clearer? The point is that it's not unfair to have your selfishness
thwarted, even if it happens all the time.
OK. Thanks.

On 4/9/09 6:32 AM, in article ,
"Father Guido Sarducci" wrote:

In message ,
(Ray Fischer) said:

As opposed to you people who want the freedom to kill anything and
steal anything that isn't nailed down?

Depends. Are you nailed down?

Oh my, FATHER!

I am so ashamed of you.

Rich wrote:
These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,
the hemp-sandal wearing KOOKS who like to protest G20 meetings. It
reminds me of the YUPPIE, latte-sipping urban envirokooks in California
who banned mountain bikes from wilderness areas for "degrading to the
environment" while they rode 1500lb horses all over the same place.


What's wrong with being reminded of the importance for being careful?
Besides, the exhaust from mountain bikes is quite different from that of
horses, and a horse fart disturbs the neighborhood a lot less. And you
know this.


--
jer
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