The lurkers...

There have been 1400 people look in on this group in the past 24 hours
but only 19 messages posted.

Try and tell me now that the 5 antagonists starting arguments and
firing off inflammatory posts are not the reason normal people don't
stay.

Cryptopix wrote:
There have been 1400 people look in on this group in the past 24 hours
but only 19 messages posted.

Exactly how do you get those figures?

This group does not exist only on Google, even though they call it a
"Google Group".

Google is just one stop on the way, and not necesarily the biggest one.
Many news groups get fed to large companies and universities that run
their own distribution networks.

As for the 19 postings, I really can't comment on that, I for one have
participated in a discussion (the Nikon F10 and replacement), that has
been nothing but well written and friendly.

I posted several replies, had those replied to. Some were from frequent
posters, the original poster replied to most if not all of the postings
and several people added single comments.

SPAM, off topic, and undesirable postings (I'll leave it up to you to
decide which are undesirable) have been part of these groups since I've
been reading them (1991) and were part of them before then and on the
systems that preceded them.

If you are really bothered by them, I suggest that you stop reading them
using Google's web interface and switch to an NNTP driven news reader.
They all have a filtering mechanism so that you can get rid of the
postings you don't want to see, without affecting anyone else.

If a handful of people bother you, you can simply mark their postings
for deletion and you will never see them again.

If you want only articles that pertain to film, as opposed to digital
cameras, you can filter out most of them,but no system is perfect.

Once you switch to NNTP, you will no longer be tracked by Google, so you
won't count as twoard the "1400 that looked in" as you put it.

Geoff.


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On Jan 20, 9:57*pm, Cryptopix wrote:
There have been 1400 people look in on this group in the past 24 hours
but only 19 messages posted.

Try and tell me now that the 5 antagonists starting arguments and
firing off inflammatory posts are not the reason normal people don't
stay.

Spit them out or shut up and get a life.

Michael Ragland

On Jan 20, 9:57*pm, Cryptopix wrote:
There have been 1400 people look in on this group in the past 24 hours
but only 19 messages posted.

Try and tell me now that the 5 antagonists starting arguments and
firing off inflammatory posts are not the reason normal people don't
stay.

TROLl.
MR

On Jan 21, 4:19 pm, (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote:
Cryptopix wrote:
There have been 1400 people look in on this group in the past 24 hours
but only 19 messages posted.

Exactly how do you get those figures?


Once you switch to NNTP, you will no longer be tracked by Google, so you
won't count as twoard the "1400 that looked in" as you put it.

Geoff.


IF what you say is correct... More than 1400 visited the group
although the number of posts stay static ...because I got the
statistics from Google.

wrote:
Cryptopix wrote:
...

TROLL

Already gotcha marked as read Douglas.

On Jan 20, 11:47*pm, Paul Furman wrote:
wrote:
Cryptopix wrote:
...

TROLL

Already gotcha marked as read Douglas.

Not sure what you mean. Newbie to group; maybe that breeds
antagonism The most recent exchage Douglas had with me is
he doesn't appear a NIKON man exclusively, recommending other possible
options.

Michael Ragland

On Jan 21, 7:33*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 11:47*pm, Paul Furman wrote:

wrote:
Cryptopix wrote:
...

TROLL

Already gotcha marked as read Douglas.

Not sure what you mean. Newbie to group; maybe that breeds
antagonism The most recent exchage Douglas had with me is
he doesn't appear a NIKON man exclusively, recommending other possible
options.

Michael Ragland

Amazing isn't it? That the dumb ass image thieves are the ones who
object to me. Ha, ha, ha.

Paul Furman illegally took my images, modified them and tried to pass
off his modified version by re-posting them on his own web site with
no regognition of where he stole them from ...as the reason his
opinion of DSLRs Vs Point and shoot was more favourable (dare I say
truthful) than mine. That makes him a thief, a forger and liar. His
advise is worthless if he has to steal a pro's images to give it.

So naturally, he has an interest in poking his occasional negative
remarks at me hoping to put me down. Ignore him and you'll lose some
shonky, often stupid home made or DIY hints on how to bugger up your
Nikon gear or grow some dope. He's just one of those jokers with
nothing better to do that tinker ...part of the flavour of Usenet.

Incidentally, anyone who now cries fowl (foul) about me "name changing
to escape their "kill file" needs to recognize even the most basic
newsreader filters on E-mail addresses and mine is unchanged in nearly
6 months. Catching out the liars is more likely correct, I think.
Welcome Michael ...to the world's most useless source of photographic
information. It's called rec.photo.equipment.35mm where opinions are
like assholes... Everyone has one!

When you get to the top of your field, all the idiots in the world
come out to see if they can do a bit of tall poppy cutting. It's part
of being successful in the world's most bitchy industry, wedding
photography.

I use Nikon, Fuji, Pansonic and Canon cameras with lenses by the
manufacturers as well as Tamron and Sigma. My advise (on the rare
occasions I give it) is based on having been a qualified photographer
for over 30 years and a wedding & portrait specialist for the last 10
years. Anything I have to say about equipment or images is based on
experience, not hope I'll get some.

If you are interested Michael, you can judge for yourself about the
likelyhood my advice is founded on any experience.
http://www.brisbaneweddingphotographers.com.

Douglas

Cryptopix wrote:
There have been 1400 people look in on this group in the past 24 hours
but only 19 messages posted.
Or maybe they just had nothing to contribute to the current
discussions. The discussions I've been watching are about a
bloke looking for a Nikon camera, and someone who has posted
spider photos. Seem to be valid topics for this NG.


Try and tell me now that the 5 antagonists starting arguments and
firing off inflammatory posts are not the reason normal people don't
stay.
And which one of the 5 are you douggy? Antagonist firing off
inflammatory posts #1?
See - a day or so goes by without you here and the topics
turn to photography related stuff. You show up and can't
help yourself and make an inflammatory post.
The couple of weeks that you stayed away after
"Sarina.Sarin" was outed were good - the traffic was low but
it was on-topic.

"Cryptopix" wrote:

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Exactly how do you get those figures?


Once you switch to NNTP, you will no longer be tracked by Google, so you
won't count as twoard the "1400 that looked in" as you put it.


IF what you say is correct... More than 1400 visited the group
although the number of posts stay static ...because I got the
statistics from Google.

I never use Google groups to read or post messages.
That figure of 1400 is probably the # of views, which could
include multiple hits by the same people.

The whole Google groups thing is a result of Google taking
over the old Deja News operation. Deja news was a website
that existed mainly to archive postings on Usenet, and it also
allowed people to post directly through the site.
It often cracks me up when people think that posts in a group
all come from Google.
It's not uncommon for posts to be dropped by Google. Thus,
the stats from that site might be a good 'ballpark' figure, but
definitely not an accurate reference for activity in a group


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Steve snip McQ