[OT-ish:Blu Ray] HD-DVD death blow - backup implications

I don't know when we'll be backing up on Blu-Ray (if ever), however,
with the all-but-dead state of HD-DVD, keep in mind that Blu-Ray is the
format of choice - accept not any offers of HD-DVD.

It's dead Jim.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=206800463

We now resume regular programming.

Alan Browne wrote:


I don't know when we'll be backing up on Blu-Ray (if ever), however,
with the all-but-dead state of HD-DVD, keep in mind that Blu-Ray is the
format of choice - accept not any offers of HD-DVD.

It's dead Jim.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=206800463

We now resume regular programming.

It's been on life support for the last couple of months, and I'd say
with Toshiba formally announcing 'no mas', the corpse has already been
lowered into the ground...

As to backup, I'm still of the school of additional HDrives, but Blu-Ray
would be good for archival stuff or a backup backup.

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On Feb 19, 1:16*pm, Alan Browne wrote:
I don't know when we'll be backing up on Blu-Ray (if ever), however,
with the all-but-dead state of HD-DVD, keep in mind that Blu-Ray is the
format of choice - accept not any offers of HD-DVD.

It's dead Jim.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/...rticleID=20680...

We now resume regular programming.

HD-DVD should have died before it came to market.

As for Blu-Ray for backup, I look forward to the day that the blank
media cost less per GB then DVDs, right now it just cost too much,
more then external drives.

Scott

Previously on rec.photo.digital.slr-systems, Scott W said:

HD-DVD should have died before it came to market.

Why?

I never paid much attention to the format war, content just wait for it
to be over. Why do you think that HD-DVD is that bad?

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On Feb 20, 2:02*pm, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
Previously on rec.photo.digital.slr-systems, Scott W said:

HD-DVD should have died before it came to market.

Why?

I never paid much attention to the format war, content just wait for it
to be over. *Why do you think that HD-DVD is that bad?



HD-DVD has much less capacity then Blu-Ray, and so has to compress a
lot more for the same length movie, plus you get less backup space on
a disk if you are using it for backups.

Scott

Previously on rec.photo.digital.slr-systems, Scott W said:

I never paid much attention to the format war, content just wait for it
to be over. *Why do you think that HD-DVD is that bad?
HD-DVD has much less capacity then Blu-Ray, and so has to compress a
lot more for the same length movie, plus you get less backup space on
a disk if you are using it for backups.

I think the war is now completely over: The remaining HD-DVD holdout
studios have switched, and Toshiba has thrown in the towel:

http://www.reuters.com/article/enter...18265320080221

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John McWilliams wrote:
Alan Browne wrote:


I don't know when we'll be backing up on Blu-Ray (if ever), however,
with the all-but-dead state of HD-DVD, keep in mind that Blu-Ray is
the format of choice - accept not any offers of HD-DVD.

It's dead Jim.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=206800463

We now resume regular programming.

It's been on life support for the last couple of months, and I'd say
with Toshiba formally announcing 'no mas', the corpse has already been
lowered into the ground...

As to backup, I'm still of the school of additional HDrives, but Blu-Ray
would be good for archival stuff or a backup backup.

I agree and about to add 1 TB of backup. I'm not there yet (BD) either
and not sure when decent a decent priced writer will appear for an iMac.
Still maintaining a WinXP machine too...

Cheers,
Alan

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Alan Browne wrote:

I don't know when we'll be backing up on Blu-Ray (if ever) ...

Certainly not before archival-grade BR-R becomes
cheaper than spare hard drives :-)

Perhaps when MAM offers BR-R in "archival" grades.
http://www.mam-a-store.com/golddvd.html
It took them years to offer archival DVD-R.

And I'm not sure just how "archival" that is.
Ablative-layer optical media is arguably not "backup",
never has been, and may never be.

Think of it as "data escrow" media. Temporary.

I have Kodak PhotoCDs, which despite ideal storage
and handling, are now unreadable.

If you are using optical media for archiving valuable
images, you are a curator, and not just a librarian.

You must have a stewardship process of periodic checks
and data migration. The goal is to copy it to the
next generation befo
- the errors become unrecoverable, and/or
- none of the old media's drives still work.
And this assumes a stable file format. I also have
tapes that are probably readable, but the software
that understands them won't install or run today.

Anyone storing stuff on HD-DVD-R may need to pull up
the migration schedule by a few months.

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