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Old September 26th 06, 05:51 AM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Wayne J. Cosshall
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Default Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced

Hi All,

Epson has announced the new 3800 large format printer. Details are at:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=687

Cheers,

Wayne

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Old September 26th 06, 06:38 AM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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Default Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced

Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
Hi All,

Epson has announced the new 3800 large format printer. Details are at:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=687


Seems to be sort of a scaled-down 4800 printer.
-30 pounds lighter, and a smaller footprint, yet still does 17" wide.
From the picture, it didn't appear to have the big paper-handling, though
(large built-in roll feeder, and enclosed/expanding paper tray to handle
full 17x22" sheets.

Personally, one of the most attractive things about the 4800/4000 (I have
the 4000) is it's industrial-strength build, and the built-in large-scale
paper handling. Without that, it's value diminishes.

That they limit it to 80ml ink carts is a bit troubling. Perhaps size was
simply too limiting.
The 4800 & up can take either 110ml or double that...with 220ml
arts. -Huge capacity...

The ability to print on glossy paper is a plus.
We'll see...

-MarkČ



Cheers,

Wayne

Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
Publisher, Experimental Digital Photography
http://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com
Coordindinator of Studies, Multimedia and Photomedia, Australian
Academy of Design
Personal art site http://www.artinyourface.com/


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Old September 26th 06, 03:07 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Wayne J. Cosshall
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Default Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced

MarkČ wrote:


Seems to be sort of a scaled-down 4800 printer.
-30 pounds lighter, and a smaller footprint, yet still does 17" wide.
From the picture, it didn't appear to have the big paper-handling, though
(large built-in roll feeder, and enclosed/expanding paper tray to handle
full 17x22" sheets.

Personally, one of the most attractive things about the 4800/4000 (I have
the 4000) is it's industrial-strength build, and the built-in large-scale
paper handling. Without that, it's value diminishes.

That they limit it to 80ml ink carts is a bit troubling. Perhaps size was
simply too limiting.
The 4800 & up can take either 110ml or double that...with 220ml
arts. -Huge capacity...

The ability to print on glossy paper is a plus.
We'll see...

-MarkČ


Trying to hit a new price point to open up new markets in the face of
stronger competition from HP and Canon, I would guess. Always a place
for more choice.

Cheers,

Wayne

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Old September 26th 06, 03:15 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Paul Rubin
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Default Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced

"Wayne J. Cosshall" writes:
Trying to hit a new price point to open up new markets in the face of
stronger competition from HP and Canon, I would guess. Always a place
for more choice.


Why don't any of these things offer continuous inking systems? It
would be such a huge competitive attraction (at least if the
manufacturer is really trying to sell printers, rather than use them
as a giveaway vehicle to help them sell ink) that it almost seems like
a conspiracy that they've all refrained.
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Old September 26th 06, 03:20 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
MarkČ
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Default Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced

Paul Rubin wrote:
"Wayne J. Cosshall" writes:
Trying to hit a new price point to open up new markets in the face of
stronger competition from HP and Canon, I would guess. Always a place
for more choice.


Why don't any of these things offer continuous inking systems? It
would be such a huge competitive attraction (at least if the
manufacturer is really trying to sell printers, rather than use them
as a giveaway vehicle to help them sell ink) that it almost seems like
a conspiracy that they've all refrained.


The others nearly are continuous ink systems...with their 220ml carts.

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Old September 26th 06, 03:54 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Paul Rubin
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Default Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced

"MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number writes:
The others nearly are continuous ink systems...with their 220ml carts.


Hmm, well I thought the idea of continuous ink is that you can use
bulk ink without the manufacturer shaking fingers at you. Don't they
charge a fortune for those carts? It looks like an 220ml Epson cart
is around $85 discounted, or $386/liter, vs. about $25/liter for
gallon bottles from refill places.
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Old September 26th 06, 09:45 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Ben Thomas
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Default Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced

Paul Rubin wrote:
"Wayne J. Cosshall" writes:
Trying to hit a new price point to open up new markets in the face of
stronger competition from HP and Canon, I would guess. Always a place
for more choice.


Why don't any of these things offer continuous inking systems? It
would be such a huge competitive attraction (at least if the
manufacturer is really trying to sell printers, rather than use them
as a giveaway vehicle to help them sell ink) that it almost seems like
a conspiracy that they've all refrained.


I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that they sell printers to
sell ink. Not long ago there was a Lexmark that cost more to refill
than to buy including new ink.


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Old September 26th 06, 09:53 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Paul Rubin
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Default Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced

Ben Thomas writes:
I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that they sell printers to
sell ink. Not long ago there was a Lexmark that cost more to refill
than to buy including new ink.


That's some throwaway consumer printer, not a large format printer
some of which go into five figure price tags.
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Old September 26th 06, 10:03 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
frederick
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Default Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced

Paul Rubin wrote:
"Wayne J. Cosshall" writes:
Trying to hit a new price point to open up new markets in the face of
stronger competition from HP and Canon, I would guess. Always a place
for more choice.


Why don't any of these things offer continuous inking systems? It
would be such a huge competitive attraction (at least if the
manufacturer is really trying to sell printers, rather than use them
as a giveaway vehicle to help them sell ink) that it almost seems like
a conspiracy that they've all refrained.


HP's last results:
$90 billion turnover
$4.5 billion profit from selling ink and toner
$1 billion profit from selling everything else
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Old September 26th 06, 10:30 PM posted to aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Ben Thomas
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Default Epson 3800 Large Format printer formally announced

Paul Rubin wrote:
Ben Thomas writes:
I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that they sell printers to
sell ink. Not long ago there was a Lexmark that cost more to refill
than to buy including new ink.


That's some throwaway consumer printer,


Literally.

not a large format printer
some of which go into five figure price tags.


According to the sales figures in another post in this thread, the point
I was trying to illustrate is valid.


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