Sony A7R II

From DP Review site:

"PDAF will work even with third-party lenses via existing adapters,
including in continuous AF tracking mode.
This is potentially a huge deal - especially for Canon users. We've used
an a7R II with a Canon 24-70mm lens and a Metabones adapter, and focus
is indeed very fast indeed."

AFAIK there's not a "Metabones" type adapter with good support for Nikon
F mount retaining AF and aperture control for various "D/AF-S" "G" and
"E" lenses. Perhaps the arrival of this Sony camera will prompt Nikon to
produce a mirrorless FX body.

On 11/06/2015 11:52 a.m., Mark F wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:01:50 +1200, Me wrote:

From DP Review site:

"PDAF will work even with third-party lenses via existing adapters,
including in continuous AF tracking mode.
This is potentially a huge deal - especially for Canon users. We've used
an a7R II with a Canon 24-70mm lens and a Metabones adapter, and focus
is indeed very fast indeed."
They say it does 1920x1080 video, but it only does 30 frames/second

No. They say it does 4k @ 30/25/24 fps.
It does 1920x1080 @ 60p / 24p / 60i, as well as a 120fps mode @ 720p.


AFAIK there's not a "Metabones" type adapter with good support for Nikon
F mount retaining AF and aperture control for various "D/AF-S" "G" and
"E" lenses. Perhaps the arrival of this Sony camera will prompt Nikon to
produce a mirrorless FX body.

In article , Me wrote:

From DP Review site:

"PDAF will work even with third-party lenses via existing adapters,
including in continuous AF tracking mode. This is potentially a huge
deal - especially for Canon users. We've used an a7R II with a
Canon 24-70mm lens and a Metabones adapter, and focus is indeed
very fast indeed."

That's neat, since AF was really slow with Canon adapters earlier.

AFAIK there's not a "Metabones" type adapter with good support for
Nikon F mount retaining AF

True, but I thought that was because the focus engine was in the camera body,
while it is in the lens body for compatible Canon lenses? Maybe I'm wrong, and
maybe the focus engine could be built in to the adapter. There is no reason why
Metabones wouldn't have released on if there weren't technical limitations.

and aperture control for various "D/AF-S" "G" and "E" lenses.

There are adapters for G-lenses, that add an aperture ring on the adapter, which
is what I use. It's really neat and means that any F-mount lens ever made can be
mounted and used on my Sony A7.

Perhaps the arrival of this Sony camera will prompt Nikon to
produce a mirrorless FX body.

Well, that would be neat as hell, and I'd probably buy one in a heart beat - IF
it has F-mount. I know the flange distance is really huge and you'd want to make
a mirrorless as small as possible, but damn it would be nice.

Oh, and it needs to have Sony-level focus peaking for manual focus, and a really
really good EVF. And look like a Nikon FE:

http://jonaseklundh.se/media/modules.../nikon_fe_chro
me_joe.png



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Sandman

In article , Me wrote:

From DP Review site:

"PDAF will work even with third-party lenses via existing adapters,
including in continuous AF tracking mode. This is potentially a huge
deal - especially for Canon users. We've used an a7R II with a
Canon 24-70mm lens and a Metabones adapter, and focus is indeed
very fast indeed."

AFAIK there's not a "Metabones" type adapter with good support for
Nikon F mount retaining AF and aperture control for various
"D/AF-S" "G" and "E" lenses. Perhaps the arrival of this Sony
camera will prompt Nikon to produce a mirrorless FX body.

Some more data:

42MP sensor
4K video
ISO 102,400

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Sandman

In article , RichA wrote:

Sandman:
Well, that would be neat as hell, and I'd probably buy one in a
heart beat - IF it has F-mount. I know the flange distance is
really huge and you'd want to make a mirrorless as small as
possible, but damn it would be nice. Oh, and it needs to have
Sony-level focus peaking for manual focus, and a really really
good EVF. And look like a Nikon FE:

http://jonaseklundh.se/media/modules.../nikon_fe_chro
me_joe.png -- Sandman

Maybe it's time to stop hoping all those ancient lenses will bolt
right on?

Ancient?? Many of the F-mount lenses out there are the top of the line glass you
can buy for money for a small format camera.

New lenses for the most part kill all the old stuff so a
cheap adapter should be sufficient to allow the use of all those old
lenses, just like with current mirrorless cameras.

I'd rather be able to fully utilize the expensive glass I already own. I can use
an adapter to fit all my Nikon glass on my Sony A7, but they all act like dumb
manual lenses. With a Nikon mirrorless with F mount, I get full functionality,
optical stabilization, autofocus, exif data etc.

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Sandman

On 12/06/2015 8:30 a.m., Sandman wrote:
In article , RichA wrote:

Sandman:
Well, that would be neat as hell, and I'd probably buy one in a
heart beat - IF it has F-mount. I know the flange distance is
really huge and you'd want to make a mirrorless as small as
possible, but damn it would be nice. Oh, and it needs to have
Sony-level focus peaking for manual focus, and a really really
good EVF. And look like a Nikon FE:

http://jonaseklundh.se/media/modules.../nikon_fe_chro
me_joe.png -- Sandman

Maybe it's time to stop hoping all those ancient lenses will bolt
right on?

Ancient?? Many of the F-mount lenses out there are the top of the line glass you
can buy for money for a small format camera.

New lenses for the most part kill all the old stuff so a
cheap adapter should be sufficient to allow the use of all those old
lenses, just like with current mirrorless cameras.

I'd rather be able to fully utilize the expensive glass I already own. I can use
an adapter to fit all my Nikon glass on my Sony A7, but they all act like dumb
manual lenses. With a Nikon mirrorless with F mount, I get full functionality,
optical stabilization, autofocus, exif data etc.

RichA hangs about on DPReview forums. There are a lot of morons there,
who'd have you believe that it's normal to "change systems" on a whim.

By the time the dust has settled on the A7RII - in terms of how specs
translate to real performance - perhaps Nikon (and Canon) will have
responded.
If PDAF works as suggested with Canon EF lenses, then Sony may have shot
themselves in the foot WRT anticipated profits from system lens sales.

In article ,
Alfred Molon wrote:

I'm tempted to get one, but the body is quite pricey. And I would need
new lenses, which won't be cheap either. Pretty nice beast anyway.

This man has functional sig delimiter. Congrats Sir Alfred! ;-)
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teleportation kills

In article , Me wrote:

RichA:
New lenses for the most part kill all the old stuff so a cheap
adapter should be sufficient to allow the use of all those old
lenses, just like with current mirrorless cameras.

Sandman:
I'd rather be able to fully utilize the expensive glass I already
own. I can use an adapter to fit all my Nikon glass on my Sony A7,
but they all act like dumb manual lenses. With a Nikon mirrorless
with F mount, I get full functionality, optical stabilization,
autofocus, exif data etc.

RichA hangs about on DPReview forums. There are a lot of morons
there, who'd have you believe that it's normal to "change systems"
on a whim.

By the time the dust has settled on the A7RII - in terms of how
specs translate to real performance - perhaps Nikon (and Canon)
will have responded. If PDAF works as suggested with Canon EF
lenses, then Sony may have shot themselves in the foot WRT
anticipated profits from system lens sales.

Well, Sony hasn't really released all that much glass for the FE mount, and most
of what they've released has been so and so.

The 35mm/f1.4 and the 55mm/f1.8 are awesome lenses, but the 35mm/f2.8 isn't
anything special. And the 28-70/f3.5-5.6 is pretty lukewarm.


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Sandman

In article , Alfred Molon wrote:

I'm tempted to get one, but the body is quite pricey. And I would
need new lenses, which won't be cheap either. Pretty nice beast
anyway.

Get the FE 55mm/1.8 for your standard lens. It's an awesome lens and is pretty
all-around. Then get an adapter for your existing favorite lenses. You may be
"stuck" with manual focus, but with focus peaking, it's really nice anyway.

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Sandman

I'm tempted to get one, but the body is quite pricey. And I would need
new lenses, which won't be cheap either. Pretty nice beast anyway.
--
Alfred Molon

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