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On 5/14/2015 1:03 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Thu, 14 May 2015 12:39:14 -0400, nospam wrote: In article , Tony Cooper wrote: The two I mentioned do have one feature in common that CC doesn't offer: Continuos ofline operation... nonsense. cc works perfectly fine offline. I can only assume that android does not use the subscription model and therefore doesn't understand it. CC is not used offline. yes it is. I mistyped. I meant CC is not used online. My error. Anyone who is discussing in good faith would have recognized the typo. But then, you and i are not allowed to make typos. That allowance is reserved to certain others. The only thing that may be online and may be inaccessible in case of an outage are stored images, but these images should also be on the user's computer. which contradicts what you just said. So nice of you to point this out. When you make one of your clanging bloopers, you whine that we should have known what you meant. Everything I've written about CC indicates that I fully understand it is used offline. Also, I acknowledge errors. Something you don't do. There is no need for him to acknowledge erros. He never makes any. If he mistates a fact, its your fault. You should understand what he was talking about. -- PeterN |
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In article , Tony Cooper
wrote: The two I mentioned do have one feature in common that CC doesn't offer: Continuos ofline operation... nonsense. cc works perfectly fine offline. It requirers authentication periodically after installation. which means it works perfectly fine offline, exactly as i said. however, if you expect to be offline for more than 90 days, you might have issues, and not just with photoshop either. Some folks might consider COO, Continuos Offline Operation a feature. CC does not, as you said have that feature. I'm not interested in starting a fight over this, but I don't understand what you mean by Continuous Offline Operation in this context. no internet connection for an extended period. That's what *you* may think it means, but I'm asking android what he means. the meaning is obvious. these days, that is an extreme edge case. a *lot* of things won't work without an internet connection, including posting to usenet. Hurricane season is approaching down here. While I would like to think that no internet availability is an extreme edge case, I got very edgy last year when my cable connection was out for a week. you have an iphone and an ipad, do you not? you still had internet access. and one week outage isn't an issue anyway. it needs to be at least 30 days, often 90 days for photoshop to start complaining. |
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In article , Tony Cooper
wrote: Also, I acknowledge errors. Something you don't do. i always do when there's proof. your twisting and lying is not proof that i'm wrong. As we all know here, "twisting" is your description of having what you said repeated back to you verbatim. bull****. you consistently twist and change things to alter what i said just so you can argue. |
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On May 14, 2015, Tony Cooper wrote
(in ): On Thu, 14 May 2015 10:19:52 -0700, Savageduck wrote: If for some reason your monthly payment has failed, I had a credit card reissued due to the Target fiasco and that resulted in a failure to complete the payment to Adobe. They contacted be via email and notified me of the issue and asked for that to be corrected within 14 days. I had no interruption in CC service or use of PS or LR. You don't even need a fiasco to have this sort of problem. All you need is to forget to notify them when your credit card expiration date is changed. I just had that happen with my SiriusXM car radio annual charge, and it prompted me to think of who else has that credit card on file for auto payments. Yup! āSā stuff happens, and I think Adobe understands this. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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| ...and the source of that story is the decidedly anti-Adobe Register.
| It is full of misinformation and FUD. I didn't find it especially critical, though TheRegister specializes in criticizing everyone. I think it was just an excuse to do a "graphic software roundup" filler piece. Adobe's subscription deal is very much a negative to some people, including me, despite the fact that I wouldn't be terribly shaken up to find it offline for a day. I just don't want subscription. (And I don't want to pay 10 times what a product is worth. But that's a sparate issue. I think if you weren't so Adobe-biased yourself you'd see that TheRegister wasn't really complimenting anyone. For that matter, they weren't really providing useful information at all. I use PSP 5 & 16. They call the PSP16 interface "modern". I call it very poor design and disrespectful of user preference, which is an inexcusable flaw in professional software. Dark gray and orange? It's ugly. And the 3 windows is nothing more than wasteful gimmickry. Worse, there's no way to make it default to open into the "real" editor window. On the other hand, TheRegister criticized PSP for poor RAW support. But it's not intended to have full RAW support. There's Aftershot Pro for that. All in all, I don't think they provided any really useful information. Their breezy reviews of other products seemed equally uninformative to me. I used to make TheRegister my first stop for tech news, but I think they've gone downhill in recent years. I rarely even bother to try deciphering their juvenile, pun-infested headlines anymore. It's just not worth the trouble. "titsup" is a good example. But I've never known TheRegister to be unfair in their criticism. There are some very knowledgeable people there. They just don't hesitate to make digs about the problems with Apple or Adobe. |
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In article ,
Tony Cooper wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 13:06:04 -0400, nospam wrote: In article , Tony Cooper wrote: The two I mentioned do have one feature in common that CC doesn't offer: Continuos ofline operation... nonsense. cc works perfectly fine offline. It requirers authentication periodically after installation. which means it works perfectly fine offline, exactly as i said. however, if you expect to be offline for more than 90 days, you might have issues, and not just with photoshop either. Some folks might consider COO, Continuos Offline Operation a feature. CC does not, as you said have that feature. I'm not interested in starting a fight over this, but I don't understand what you mean by Continuous Offline Operation in this context. no internet connection for an extended period. Well Sir! Thank's for asking. I'm soo sorry for not being totally clear on this... I mean that the user is offline for an extended period or whishes that the software so is! Like on a dessert island in Polynesia, or something. Prego! That's what *you* may think it means, but I'm asking android what he means. these days, that is an extreme edge case. a *lot* of things won't work without an internet connection, including posting to usenet. Hurricane season is approaching down here. While I would like to think that no internet availability is an extreme edge case, I got very edgy last year when my cable connection was out for a week. Yes, and then when everybody's safe it can be nice to be able to use the 'puter the old-fashioned way. -- teleportation kills |
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In article , Mayayana
wrote: Adobe's subscription deal is very much a negative to some people, including me, despite the fact that I wouldn't be terribly shaken up to find it offline for a day. I just don't want subscription. it's a negative to some people and a positive to others. |
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In article , Tony Cooper
wrote: I'm not interested in starting a fight over this, but I don't understand what you mean by Continuous Offline Operation in this context. no internet connection for an extended period. That's what *you* may think it means, but I'm asking android what he means. the meaning is obvious. No one else's meaning of anything is always obvious. You often prattle on about something when your "obvious" meaning is not what you stated but what you later say you meant. it's not only obvious, but he confirmed it to be exactly what i said it was. you're as usual, argue just to argue. these days, that is an extreme edge case. a *lot* of things won't work without an internet connection, including posting to usenet. Hurricane season is approaching down here. While I would like to think that no internet availability is an extreme edge case, I got very edgy last year when my cable connection was out for a week. you have an iphone and an ipad, do you not? you still had internet access. I could not have kept up with your interesting and informative posts and objections to everything that anyone else says using my iPhone or iPad. I would rather eat worms than use Google Groups. perhaps there's a fresh batch for you with the summer fishing season. |
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In article , android
wrote: Some folks might consider COO, Continuos Offline Operation a feature. CC does not, as you said have that feature. I'm not interested in starting a fight over this, but I don't understand what you mean by Continuous Offline Operation in this context. no internet connection for an extended period. Well Sir! Thank's for asking. I'm soo sorry for not being totally clear on this... I mean that the user is offline for an extended period or whishes that the software so is! Like on a dessert island in Polynesia, or something. Prego! that's exactly what i said. That's what *you* may think it means, but I'm asking android what he means. these days, that is an extreme edge case. a *lot* of things won't work without an internet connection, including posting to usenet. Hurricane season is approaching down here. While I would like to think that no internet availability is an extreme edge case, I got very edgy last year when my cable connection was out for a week. Yes, and then when everybody's safe it can be nice to be able to use the 'puter the old-fashioned way. the old-fashioned way is offline, using a dial-up modem for occasional connections. |
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In article ,
nospam wrote: In article , Tony Cooper wrote: Also, I acknowledge errors. Something you don't do. i always do when there's proof. I. E. when your caught... your twisting and lying is not proof that i'm wrong. As we all know here, "twisting" is your description of having what you said repeated back to you verbatim. Or executing a dance that was popular in the sixties. I goes well with shouting! bull****. you consistently twist and change things to alter what i said just so you can argue. Your talking to the man in the mirror. That's a way of life... -- teleportation kills |
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