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  #21  
Old November 27th 06, 07:24 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.apps,rec.photo.digital.point+shoot
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Default Minimal software to download Canon PowerShot to Mac?

In article .com,
ric wrote:

i'm sure there's a reason for this but i can't see any justification
for removing the ability to appear as a usb bulk storage device on a
camera...for when you don't want to install canon's cruft, or want to
use it on a new PC...


I suspect the reason is that Canon wants you to install their silly
software for marketing and control reason.


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Old November 27th 06, 07:41 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.apps,rec.photo.digital.point+shoot
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Mike Rosenberg wrote:
Erik Richard Sørensen wrote:

Strange - I know a lot of people here, who are using Canon cameras -
especially the EOSD and IXUS models. (Some IXUS models in Wurope are
identical to some A-models in the US). _ALL_ of these just pop up as HDs
when connected...


All I know is that two Canon users have already posted here saying this
does not work.



Buy a card reader. Works fine and no drivers
needed for my Sandisk reader.

Phil
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Old November 27th 06, 08:46 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.apps,rec.photo.digital.point+shoot
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:54:33 +1300, G.T. wrote:

Erik Richard Sørensen wrote:
Hei Mike
Strange - I know a lot of people here, who are using Canon cameras -
especially the EOSD and IXUS models. (Some IXUS models in Wurope are
identical to some A-models in the US). _ALL_ of these just pop up as
HDs when connected...


Digital Rebels and Powershots don't do USB mass storage, I didn't think
the other models did either. It's one of the lame things about Canons.


I don't know what a Rebel is but the Powershot that we buy in this part of
the world certainly just plug into the USB bus. The Mac recognises them
with no other software required to load into iPhoto.

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Old November 27th 06, 08:59 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.apps,rec.photo.digital.point+shoot
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In article , Cosmik Debris
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:54:33 +1300, G.T. wrote:

Erik Richard Sørensen wrote:
Hei Mike
Strange - I know a lot of people here, who are using Canon cameras -
especially the EOSD and IXUS models. (Some IXUS models in Wurope are
identical to some A-models in the US). _ALL_ of these just pop up as
HDs when connected...


Digital Rebels and Powershots don't do USB mass storage, I didn't think
the other models did either. It's one of the lame things about Canons.


I don't know what a Rebel is but the Powershot that we buy in this part of
the world certainly just plug into the USB bus. The Mac recognises them
with no other software required to load into iPhoto.


We shoot EOS 10Ds and 20Ds here. They plug in via USB, and iPhoto
grabs the images.
  #25  
Old November 27th 06, 10:52 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.apps,rec.photo.digital.point+shoot
Erik Richard Sørensen
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ric wrote:
Greg wrote:
Digital Rebels and Powershots don't do USB mass storage, I didn't think
the other models did either. It's one of the lame things about Canons.

I generally trust your posts but this is the second time you've spouted
major, easy to check bull****.


some do. last week i had an eos 350D and 400D on my desk trying to get
them working. i think the 350D's sold as the digital rebel in the US.
the 350d can be persuaded to appear as a usb bulk storage device by
selecting USB/PC-mode on the camera, rather than the PTP or whatever
the other mode is. the 400 can't - the feature's been removed for some
reason.
drove me bat**** as it just doesn't plain work on our win2k sp4 work
clients here in ptp mode - had to use the 350D as an expensive card
reader in the end...!


On my own Olympus I always select 'PC Mode', så I'm sure that the camera
comes up as an external unit. and that's also what I recommend others to
select.

Infact I by this method can make mine occour in OS 9.2.2 as well with
the extension 'Apple Mass Storage Extension' + an extension/library file
from the USB DDK 1.5.5 kit called 'Missing USB Devices'. Selecting 'PC
Mode', the camera just pops up nicely...

By trying and testing more types of digicams I also have found that a
brand here in Europe called 'Medion' works nicely on both OS 9.x and OS
X, if you select 'PC mode', then they pop up as they should, though
Medion themselves write that their cameras donot work with Apple systems
- any version...

Some cameras though are more tricky in OS 9.x. Here you sometimes have
to open the extension/library 'Missing USB Devices' with a resurce
editor and add the name and model code - not model number. You then
sometimes can be lucky that the new 'Missing USB Devices' even will
recognize more models from the same brand. - Fx. do all Medion series
5500, 5600, 5700 and 7110 models now work within OS 9.0.4 to 9.2.2.

i'm sure there's a reason for this but i can't see any justification
for removing the ability to appear as a usb bulk storage device on a
camera...for when you don't want to install canon's cruft, or want to
use it on a new PC...


To me it seems as if Canon 'thinks' - believe that their software is the
best of all to use. - As I earlier wrote I don't like iPhoto, but I find
this piece of software better than the Canon stuff...

I have tried to use 'Inkscape' in connection with GraphicConverter on OS
X. This is the best combination of software that I've tried until now.
Inkscape though is a bit slow, but the newest version is better than the
previous. Inkscape requires X11, - Gosh! I wish it was native X...

cheers, Erik Richard

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  #27  
Old November 28th 06, 12:15 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.apps,rec.photo.digital.point+shoot
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OK people, we have messages talking about several different concepts
here, and confusing them, and that's part of the reason there's no
agreement. Some of you are talking about transfers where the Finder is
involved, and some of you are talking about transfers that bypass the
Finder.
I own a Canon digital point-and-shoot and a Canon digital SLR.

Here is how it works if you install NO Canon softwa

A. Loading into iPhoto
iPhoto recognizes Canons with no additional software because iPhoto has
support for Canons built into it. This is in iPhoto, not in the Finder.
iPhoto negotiates the USB transfer with the camera directly, bypassing
the Finder.

B. Loading into the Finder
Canons generally do not support USB Mass Storage. (Many other camera
brands such as Nikon provide an option.) If you plug in a Canon camera
without any other software, it will not show up on the desktop as a
drive. Without USB Mass Storage support, the camera does not know how
to make itself show up as a drive, and so the Mac cannot directly
negotiate the USB transfer with the camera. (An earlier post says that
the Canon 350/Rebel XT does have a USB Mass Storage setting. I will
have to try that on mine.)

C. Loading into a card reader
Canons work great with card readers because the camera is not involved.
If you put a card from a Canon into a card reader, the Mac doesn't know
it was a Canon. All it sees is a mounted volume with the JPEG or RAW
format files on the card. OS X has built-in support for both JPEG and
Canon RAW, so you see them as files in the Finder.

D. Loading into Image Capture
With the OS X Image Capture utility you can easily preview and select
which photos to download, which is useful when you are keeping 287
photos on the card as a temporary backup and you only want the last 5
photos you shot this afternoon. (Last time I checked, iPhoto still is
dumb enough to allow only an all-or-nothing download, which annoys my
friends who use iPhoto. Let me know if this has changed.) Like iPhoto,
Image Capture bypasses the Finder. If you want Image Capture to open
instead of iPhoto when you plug in a camera or card, do it from Image
Capture preferences.

So please, before any of you puts forth an opinion about what does or
does not happen with a camera, you must state which of the above
transfer types you are talking about, because it changes the equation
significantly.

If you don't want to worry about software at all, use a card reader.
Direct camera connections consume camera battery power, tie up the
camera, and risk corrupting photos through USB transmission glitches
(according to some photographers). Card readers preserve camera battery
power, free up the camera, are not driver-dependent, and are seen by
the OS as a simple file transfer.

I don't see the lack of USB Mass Storage as much of a disadvantage for
Canon because a card reader is better than a direct transfer anyway,
and a card reader is already seen as a drive.

Cosmik Debris wrote:
I don't know what a Rebel is but the Powershot that we buy in this part of
the world certainly just plug into the USB bus. The Mac recognises them
with no other software required to load into iPhoto.


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Old November 28th 06, 03:05 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.apps,rec.photo.digital.point+shoot
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In article .com,
"Paul" wrote:

OK people, we have messages talking about several different concepts
here, and confusing them, and that's part of the reason there's no
agreement . . . .

Here is how it works . . .



THANK YOU!!!

--The OP
  #29  
Old November 28th 06, 06:35 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.apps,rec.photo.digital.point+shoot
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Thanks for the concise narrative. I've been following the thread and
even though I do not own a Canon, I use memory cards exclusively for
exactly the reason(s) you describe.

JT




Paul wrote:

OK people, we have messages talking about several different concepts
here, and confusing them, and that's part of the reason there's no
agreement. Some of you are talking about transfers where the Finder is
involved, and some of you are talking about transfers that bypass the
Finder.
I own a Canon digital point-and-shoot and a Canon digital SLR.

Here is how it works if you install NO Canon softwa

A. Loading into iPhoto
iPhoto recognizes Canons with no additional software because iPhoto has
support for Canons built into it. This is in iPhoto, not in the Finder.
iPhoto negotiates the USB transfer with the camera directly, bypassing
the Finder.

B. Loading into the Finder
Canons generally do not support USB Mass Storage. (Many other camera
brands such as Nikon provide an option.) If you plug in a Canon camera
without any other software, it will not show up on the desktop as a
drive. Without USB Mass Storage support, the camera does not know how
to make itself show up as a drive, and so the Mac cannot directly
negotiate the USB transfer with the camera. (An earlier post says that
the Canon 350/Rebel XT does have a USB Mass Storage setting. I will
have to try that on mine.)

C. Loading into a card reader
Canons work great with card readers because the camera is not involved.
If you put a card from a Canon into a card reader, the Mac doesn't know
it was a Canon. All it sees is a mounted volume with the JPEG or RAW
format files on the card. OS X has built-in support for both JPEG and
Canon RAW, so you see them as files in the Finder.

D. Loading into Image Capture
With the OS X Image Capture utility you can easily preview and select
which photos to download, which is useful when you are keeping 287
photos on the card as a temporary backup and you only want the last 5
photos you shot this afternoon. (Last time I checked, iPhoto still is
dumb enough to allow only an all-or-nothing download, which annoys my
friends who use iPhoto. Let me know if this has changed.) Like iPhoto,
Image Capture bypasses the Finder. If you want Image Capture to open
instead of iPhoto when you plug in a camera or card, do it from Image
Capture preferences.

So please, before any of you puts forth an opinion about what does or
does not happen with a camera, you must state which of the above
transfer types you are talking about, because it changes the equation
significantly.

If you don't want to worry about software at all, use a card reader.
Direct camera connections consume camera battery power, tie up the
camera, and risk corrupting photos through USB transmission glitches
(according to some photographers). Card readers preserve camera battery
power, free up the camera, are not driver-dependent, and are seen by
the OS as a simple file transfer.

I don't see the lack of USB Mass Storage as much of a disadvantage for
Canon because a card reader is better than a direct transfer anyway,
and a card reader is already seen as a drive.

Cosmik Debris wrote:
I don't know what a Rebel is but the Powershot that we buy in this part of
the world certainly just plug into the USB bus. The Mac recognises them
with no other software required to load into iPhoto.

  #30  
Old November 29th 06, 01:26 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.apps,rec.photo.digital.point+shoot
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I was interested in this topic as my daughter has been asking a similar
question about a Canon Digital Ixus 300 (about 5 years old) and her Windows
XP laptop. Apparently it does not work as a standard USB drive, though my
son says he used it that way (maybe he had some extra software?) We need to
investigate when she returns from a trip away.

Anyway, I just tried my new Ixy Digital 60 (Japanese model; same as Digital
Ixus 65 and PowerShot SD630 Digital Elph) without any special Canon software
on my Windows XP PC - and it works. One can just 'open' it from the Explorer
or use the camera and scanner wizard. (The Canon CD has not been opened
though I admit I have some Panasonic software from my other camera.)

I think this proves that at least some Canon cameras support USB mass
storage, but it's possible that not all do. So before Greg makes such a
sweeping criticism, it might be more helpful and polite to be sure of his
facts.

Peter

"G.T." wrote in message
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Erik Richard Sørensen wrote:

Strange - I know a lot of people here, who are using Canon cameras -
especially the EOSD and IXUS models. (Some IXUS models in Wurope are
identical to some A-models in the US). _ALL_ of these just pop up as HDs
when connected...


Digital Rebels and Powershots don't do USB mass storage, I didn't think
the other models did either. It's one of the lame things about Canons.

I generally trust your posts but this is the second time you've spouted
major, easy to check bull****.

Greg



 




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