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Old February 14th 05, 09:42 PM
All Things Mopar
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Woodchuck Bill commented courteously ...

Dude, I also own the 5700, and for me the choice
is between the 8800 and the D70. I don't want to
start a ZLR vs SLR war here, but I'm waiting until
after I hear all of the PMA new releases before
I decide which model to buy. I too am in love with
my 5700, but I can learn to love another if it
steals my heart! :-) .


No chance of a war from me, Bill!

I have my reasons for wanting a ZLR and not a DSLR, no
matter whose, and I have my reasons for dumping the 5700.
As I said in my OP, the 5700 is truly outstanding in
daylight, but I've failed miserably after 6 monts of pain,
re-shoots, tech support, repair, etc. to get decent,
consistent flash pictures with either the itty bitty
Speedlight or the very competant Sunpak 433D. And I'm
getting no where fast, so it's time to cut my losses and
get on with my life.

If I were in the market for a DSLR, I'd take a look at
both the D70 and Canon 20D before buying anything. Let the
war begin!

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ATM, aka Jerry
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Old February 15th 05, 01:00 AM
Terry Hollis
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Woodchuck Bill wrote:

Dude, I also own the 5700, and for me the choice is between the 8800
and the D70. I don't want to start a ZLR vs SLR war here, but I'm
waiting until after I hear all of the PMA new releases before I decide
which model to buy. I too am in love with my 5700, but I can learn to
love another if it steals my heart! :-)


I have the Nikon Coolpix 5000 and the Canon SLR 300d. For action shots the
300d is the automatic choice but for static low light shots, the 5000 wins
hands down.

I have just completed a 5 week trip to asia and left the 300d at home
because of it's weight with all of the lens etc.

The points in favour of the 5000 were it's reticulating LCD view-finder and
the 19mm WA lens accessory, both received a lot of use with the 3,000 photos
that I shot.

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Regards - Terry Hollis, Auckland, New Zealand

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Old February 15th 05, 02:40 PM
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Terry Hollis wrote:

I have the Nikon Coolpix 5000 and the Canon SLR 300d. For action shots the
300d is the automatic choice but for static low light shots, the 5000 wins
hands down.


That's very interesting, I would have thought it to be the other
way round. What does the 5000 offer on static low light shots
that the 300d does not?

-Wolfgang
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Old February 15th 05, 04:59 PM
Terry Hollis
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Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
Terry Hollis wrote:

I have the Nikon Coolpix 5000 and the Canon SLR 300d. For action
shots the 300d is the automatic choice but for static low light
shots, the 5000 wins hands down.


That's very interesting, I would have thought it to be the other
way round. What does the 5000 offer on static low light shots
that the 300d does not?

-Wolfgang


The 300d is an SLR and as such you must use a tripod in low light
conditions, for a traveller in Asia, a tripod is not an option.

The CP 5000 has a reticulating LCD view-finder and I have found that in low
light situations I can always find something to support the camera, a wall,
rubbish bin or whatever and in spite of the awkward position the camera may
be in, I can still get a good view of the view-finder.

With the SLR the need to have your eye in a particular place makes it
unsuitable for this rough and ready type of support.

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Old February 17th 05, 12:55 AM
Jan Böhme
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:59:49 +1300, "Terry Hollis"
wrote:

The 300d is an SLR and as such you must use a tripod in low light
conditions, for a traveller in Asia, a tripod is not an option.


The CP 5000 has a reticulating LCD view-finder and I have found that in low
light situations I can always find something to support the camera, a wall,
rubbish bin or whatever and in spite of the awkward position the camera may
be in, I can still get a good view of the view-finder.

With the SLR the need to have your eye in a particular place makes it
unsuitable for this rough and ready type of support.


Righto. But you don't think that the fact that the 300D has some tree
stops more of usable sensor sensitivity compensates a little for its
lack of articulated viewfinder?

Or, put another way: It has to be a good deal darker to be low light
conditions for a 300D than for the CP 5000.

Jan Böhme
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Old February 17th 05, 05:28 AM
Terry Hollis
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Jan Böhme wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:59:49 +1300, "Terry Hollis"
wrote:

The 300d is an SLR and as such you must use a tripod in low light
conditions, for a traveller in Asia, a tripod is not an option.


The CP 5000 has a reticulating LCD view-finder and I have found that
in low light situations I can always find something to support the
camera, a wall, rubbish bin or whatever and in spite of the awkward
position the camera may be in, I can still get a good view of the
view-finder.

With the SLR the need to have your eye in a particular place makes it
unsuitable for this rough and ready type of support.


Righto. But you don't think that the fact that the 300D has some tree
stops more of usable sensor sensitivity compensates a little for its
lack of articulated viewfinder?

Or, put another way: It has to be a good deal darker to be low light
conditions for a 300D than for the CP 5000.


Jan Böhme
Korrekta personuppgifter är att betrakta som journalistik.
Felaktigheter utgör naturligtvis skönlitteratur


I don't know how you arrive at 3 stops, the 300d does 1600 ISO and the
CP5000 does 800 ISO. The standard lens for the Canon has an aperture of 3.5
and the CP5000 has an aperture of 2.8, maybe a 1/2 stop advantage to the
Canon with a lens that is close to usless for touring.

Add to that the wide-angle lens accessory for the Nikon being equivalent to
19mm (in 35mm terms) and the Canon at 28mm is not in the same race.

I use my 300d for sports photography and long lens stuff and for that the
Nikon is not in the race.

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Old February 17th 05, 06:36 AM
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Terry Hollis wrote:
Jan Böhme wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:59:49 +1300, "Terry Hollis"
wrote:

The 300d is an SLR and as such you must use a tripod in low light
conditions, for a traveller in Asia, a tripod is not an option.


The CP 5000 has a reticulating LCD view-finder and I have found that
in low light situations I can always find something to support the
camera, a wall, rubbish bin or whatever and in spite of the awkward
position the camera may be in, I can still get a good view of the
view-finder.

With the SLR the need to have your eye in a particular place makes
it unsuitable for this rough and ready type of support.


Righto. But you don't think that the fact that the 300D has some tree
stops more of usable sensor sensitivity compensates a little for its
lack of articulated viewfinder?

Or, put another way: It has to be a good deal darker to be low light
conditions for a 300D than for the CP 5000.


Jan Böhme
Korrekta personuppgifter är att betrakta som journalistik.
Felaktigheter utgör naturligtvis skönlitteratur


I don't know how you arrive at 3 stops, the 300d does 1600 ISO and the
CP5000 does 800 ISO. The standard lens for the Canon has an aperture
of 3.5 and the CP5000 has an aperture of 2.8, maybe a 1/2 stop
advantage to the Canon with a lens that is close to usless for
touring.
Add to that the wide-angle lens accessory for the Nikon being
equivalent to 19mm (in 35mm terms) and the Canon at 28mm is not in
the same race.
I use my 300d for sports photography and long lens stuff and for that
the Nikon is not in the race.


CP5000 in the Petersen Auto Museum, no flash:
http://www.fototime.com/B876FF9954F4C74/orig.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/EB5BE405C1A8111/orig.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/3CC13CDF1644C51/orig.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/3EAA017BB310772/orig.jpg

With hand-held Vivitar "Digital Slave" flash:
http://www.fototime.com/87EB914558721D5/orig.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/E92E40D65091B45/orig.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/C606881EBCC2A20/orig.jpg
Bondurant, Shelby, Phil Hill, Gurney, Hall:
http://www.fototime.com/5D78DA29829119C/orig.jpg

I really like the CP5000 with WA convertor. And they are practically
giving them away these days. For this kind of work the only reason to
pass them up is keep-ahead-of-the-pack, Bigger Bat stuff.


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