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Old February 12th 21, 11:21 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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My plan is to make RAW files of may old dia pictures (24x36 mm film) using my
Canon EOS 600D camera.

Does anyone have experience and recommendation on which lens to invest in?


not a good method.

buy a good film scanner and do it properly.
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Old February 12th 21, 03:58 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article ,
" wrote:

My plan is to make RAW files of may old dia pictures (24x36 mm film)
using my Canon EOS 600D camera.

Does anyone have experience and recommendation on which lens to invest in?

not a good method.

buy a good film scanner and do it properly.


Excuse me for being unclear. My "method" is to use a tripod from an old
enlarger. Mount the camera on the tripod and the photo an a shall light
surface on the tripod floor. E. g. not use a projector and make a picture from the projected screen.


you weren't unclear. using a camera to copy photos is far from ideal
and the results will not be particularly good.

your time and money will be *much* better spent buying a scanner. not
only will the results be much better, but it will also take less time.
there are even scanners that are designed to scan a stack of photos,
saving even more time.

if you really want to do it your way, you will need a macro lens. even
the not so good ones cost more than a scanner. the good ones cost a
*lot* more than a scanner.

for example, the canon 100mm f/2.8l is currently $1300 and the the
non-l version is $600. for non-canon, the tamron 90mm is $500.

photo scanners start at under $100 and produce better results with less
hassle.

old photos tend to curl, some quite a bit, so you will also need a way
to keep them flat without causing glare or other issues.

tl;dr - get a scanner.
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Old February 12th 21, 04:17 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Ok. If using a scanner, is your recommendation to remove the film from the
frame or can it be be scanned as is?


you will need to remove them from the frame no matter what you do.
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Old February 12th 21, 04:22 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Lens recommendation for dia film reproduction?

On 12/02/2021 15:09, wrote:

photo scanners start at under $100 and produce better results with less
hassle.

old photos tend to curl, some quite a bit, so you will also need a way
to keep them flat without causing glare or other issues.

tl;dr - get a scanner.

Ok. If using a scanner, is your recommendation to remove the film from the frame or can it be be scanned as is?



I use an Epson Perfection V800 Photo, which can take 12 2 inch slide
frames (no need to remove the film) or 3 strips of 6 35mm negatives at a
time, as well as medium format and 4x5 inch negatives. Lots of good
software features.

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Old February 12th 21, 05:33 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2021-02-12 10:17, nospam wrote:
In article ,
" wrote:

Ok. If using a scanner, is your recommendation to remove the film from the
frame or can it be be scanned as is?


you will need to remove them from the frame no matter what you do.


Not at all. In frame works fine if the film is in good shape.





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Old February 12th 21, 05:34 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2021-02-12 10:22, Ramsman wrote:
On 12/02/2021 15:09, wrote:

photo scanners start at under $100 and produce better results with less
hassle.

old photos tend to curl, some quite a bit, so you will also need a way
to keep them flat without causing glare or other issues.

tl;dr - get a scanner.

Ok. If using a scanner, is your recommendation to remove the film from
the frame or can it be be scanned as is?


I use an Epson Perfection V800 Photo, which can take 12 2 inch slide
frames (no need to remove the film) or 3 strips of 6 35mm negatives at a
time, as well as medium format and 4x5 inch negatives. Lots of good
software features.


At what resolution?


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Old February 12th 21, 05:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Alan Browne
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Ok. If using a scanner, is your recommendation to remove the film from the
frame or can it be be scanned as is?


you will need to remove them from the frame no matter what you do.


Not at all. In frame works fine if the film is in good shape.


the glass (or worse, plastic) will almost certainly cause issues.
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Old February 12th 21, 05:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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My plan is to make RAW files of may old dia pictures (24x36 mm film) using
my Canon EOS 600D camera.

Does anyone have experience and recommendation on which lens to invest in?


not a good method.

buy a good film scanner and do it properly.


Agreed. Use the tool designed for the job rather than something adapted that
won't give as good results. It will save time as well.


yep.

There are aftermarket/third party film holders that can do a much better job
of holding the film flat. It does make a noticeable difference in the quality of
the final image.


there are, and it also requires a lens that is designed for a flat
field, which cost more than everyday lenses.
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Old February 12th 21, 06:19 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 12/02/2021 16:34, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2021-02-12 10:22, Ramsman wrote:
On 12/02/2021 15:09, wrote:

photo scanners start at under $100 and produce better results with less
hassle.

old photos tend to curl, some quite a bit, so you will also need a way
to keep them flat without causing glare or other issues.

tl;dr - get a scanner.
Ok. If using a scanner, is your recommendation to remove the film
from the frame or can it be be scanned as is?


I use an Epson Perfection V800 Photo, which can take 12 2 inch slide
frames (no need to remove the film) or 3 strips of 6 35mm negatives at
a time, as well as medium format and 4x5 inch negatives. Lots of good
software features.


At what resolution?


From the datasheet downloaded from the Epson website:

Perfect for helping life-long photo enthusiasts and photographers
convert their film and images into high-quality digital media
Convert all your treasured memories to digital using this
professional-quality, 6400dpi scanner. The V800 requires virtually no
warm up time and includes high- quality film holders to help deliver
fast, high-quality results. For improved clarity, dust and scratches are
automatically removed from film and photos.

Choice of resolution
The V800 features a dual lens system that automatically selects the
optimal lens, with up to 4800dpi optical resolution for reflective photo
scanning and 6400dpi when scanning using film holders.

Scan from any source
Scan 35mm strips and slides as well as medium format and 4x5 inch large
format film in sharp focus thanks to the improved film holders with
their adjustable height control and rigid design. The V800 also supports
non-standard film formats up to 8x10 inch when placed directly on the
scanner glass.

Cleans-up images
Digital ICE technologies automatically removes imperfections such as
dust, hair, scratches and fingerprints from both film1 and photos to
restore images to their former glory with the minimum of effort.

The right tone
Take advantage of excellent tone reproduction with 4.0 DMax optical
density.The V800 can detect the exact tonal range of the original,
making sure the brightest and darkest areas of images are accurately
reproduced to reveal impressive detail and dynamic range.

Advanced software
As well as Epson Scan, the V800 comes with SilverFast SE 8 software for
advanced scanning features.

Save time
Epson's ReadyScan technology features an LED light source with a warm-up
time of less than one second, so scanning can start almost instantly.
With a very low power consumption it saves energy too.

• Scans everything
Slides, film, medium format & prints
• Dual lens system
Swaps between 6400dpi for slides and film, and 4800dpi for photos
• Removes imperfections
Digital ICE Technologies cleans-up old film and photos1
• Dynamic range
Accurately reproduce tonal range and gradation of the original
• Quick start
Warms-up in less than one second

--
Peter
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Old February 12th 21, 09:35 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Lens recommendation for dia film reproduction?

On 2021-02-12 11:50, nospam wrote:
In article , Alan Browne
wrote:

Ok. If using a scanner, is your recommendation to remove the film from the
frame or can it be be scanned as is?

you will need to remove them from the frame no matter what you do.


Not at all. In frame works fine if the film is in good shape.


the glass (or worse, plastic) will almost certainly cause issues.


In good condition, no issue at all. I've done many, many thousands on
three different scanners w/o issues. I've even scanned glass (b&w) w/o
removing them. No issues.



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