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coolpix 5700 and speed of writing to cf card
Hi,
I have a coolpix 5700 that I'm reasonably happy with, but lately I've been more and more annoyed at the time it takes to write the raw photo to the compact flash card. I realize I'm writing almost 7 megs worth of data, but it's taking what feels like a minute per shot (probably closer to 30 seconds, I'll admit I haven't timed it). I can also only take about 3 raw photos before I have to wait a few minutes for the camera to write its buffer to the card. Is this normal? I've seen the ads for the high speed cards, 45x!, 32x!, super fast!, yadda, yadda, yadda, but do the really work? Will the 5700 actually write the picture to the card faster on these cards? Is this just marketing? Or do only the newer cameras take advantage of the high speed cards? I've been lusting after the 8 megapixel models like the 8700, the digital rebel, and the pentax (I forget the model), so I'm curious if this is an even worse problem on the bigger data files. Thanks for any suggestions. |
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This subject was hashed around about a week ago if you can dig back and find
it. I think I'm correct in stating that the CP5700 can NOT take advantage of the faster cards. I own a CP5700 and use it almost exclusively for RAW files. Yes, it takes a bit over a minute to completely write a RAW file, and three shots in quick succession will stop your shooting for at least three minutes. Regardless, this particular camera suits my needs very well and I haven't seen one I really want to trade for. The slow write speed is probably my biggest gripe. "JS" wrote in message om... Hi, I have a coolpix 5700 that I'm reasonably happy with, but lately I've been more and more annoyed at the time it takes to write the raw photo to the compact flash card. I realize I'm writing almost 7 megs worth of data, but it's taking what feels like a minute per shot (probably closer to 30 seconds, I'll admit I haven't timed it). I can also only take about 3 raw photos before I have to wait a few minutes for the camera to write its buffer to the card. Is this normal? I've seen the ads for the high speed cards, 45x!, 32x!, super fast!, yadda, yadda, yadda, but do the really work? Will the 5700 actually write the picture to the card faster on these cards? Is this just marketing? Or do only the newer cameras take advantage of the high speed cards? I've been lusting after the 8 megapixel models like the 8700, the digital rebel, and the pentax (I forget the model), so I'm curious if this is an even worse problem on the bigger data files. Thanks for any suggestions. |
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I have a coolpix 5700 and have used it in RAW mode.
Taking a RAW picture and saving it to the CF card requires slightly less than 23 seconds. The CF cards I use are either a Sandisk Ultra II or an Apacaer Steno Pro. This gives you an idea about which CF cards are fast enough. I have a hunch that nominally faster CF card will not run faster on the 5700, but I'll be happy to hear differently. Note that 23 seconds is much faster than 1 minute. Phil Schmid "JS" wrote in message om... Hi, I have a coolpix 5700 that I'm reasonably happy with, but lately I've been more and more annoyed at the time it takes to write the raw photo to the compact flash card. I realize I'm writing almost 7 megs worth of data, but it's taking what feels like a minute per shot (probably closer to 30 seconds, I'll admit I haven't timed it). I can also only take about 3 raw photos before I have to wait a few minutes for the camera to write its buffer to the card. Is this normal? I've seen the ads for the high speed cards, 45x!, 32x!, super fast!, yadda, yadda, yadda, but do the really work? Will the 5700 actually write the picture to the card faster on these cards? Is this just marketing? Or do only the newer cameras take advantage of the high speed cards? I've been lusting after the 8 megapixel models like the 8700, the digital rebel, and the pentax (I forget the model), so I'm curious if this is an even worse problem on the bigger data files. Thanks for any suggestions. |
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I have a coolpix 5700 and have used it in RAW mode.
Taking a RAW picture and saving it to the CF card requires slightly less than 23 seconds. The CF cards I use are either a Sandisk Ultra II or an Apacaer Steno Pro. This gives you an idea about which CF cards are fast enough. I have a hunch that nominally faster CF card will not run faster on the 5700, but I'll be happy to hear differently. Note that 23 seconds is much faster than 1 minute. Phil Schmid "JS" wrote in message om... Hi, I have a coolpix 5700 that I'm reasonably happy with, but lately I've been more and more annoyed at the time it takes to write the raw photo to the compact flash card. I realize I'm writing almost 7 megs worth of data, but it's taking what feels like a minute per shot (probably closer to 30 seconds, I'll admit I haven't timed it). I can also only take about 3 raw photos before I have to wait a few minutes for the camera to write its buffer to the card. Is this normal? I've seen the ads for the high speed cards, 45x!, 32x!, super fast!, yadda, yadda, yadda, but do the really work? Will the 5700 actually write the picture to the card faster on these cards? Is this just marketing? Or do only the newer cameras take advantage of the high speed cards? I've been lusting after the 8 megapixel models like the 8700, the digital rebel, and the pentax (I forget the model), so I'm curious if this is an even worse problem on the bigger data files. Thanks for any suggestions. |
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I published my tetsing with three different cards in one of the discussions
last week. Although the group came to a consensus that high speed cards are not on the official NIKON list for either the 5700 or 8700, in my tetsing I readily observed differences of 30 seconds or more between one card and another. This can only mean that at somepoint the camera does support faster cards, but what the actual cutoff point is is yet to be determined. We think that it might be around a 12X card, however, costs are coming down, so if a 40X card gives you a speed boost, enjoy. Try to find a dealer that will let you test the card to be sure you are getting a speed boost. I cannot find my earlier posting. |
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I published my tetsing with three different cards in one of the discussions
last week. Although the group came to a consensus that high speed cards are not on the official NIKON list for either the 5700 or 8700, in my tetsing I readily observed differences of 30 seconds or more between one card and another. This can only mean that at somepoint the camera does support faster cards, but what the actual cutoff point is is yet to be determined. We think that it might be around a 12X card, however, costs are coming down, so if a 40X card gives you a speed boost, enjoy. Try to find a dealer that will let you test the card to be sure you are getting a speed boost. I cannot find my earlier posting. |
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Found it, here are the actual test results I posted last week.I sat down
with my three Compact Flash cards and did some basic timing with a watch with a seconds hand. This, compared to my previous post, where I had been estimating time. Here are my findings. Shooting at full resoluiton in RAW NEF mode, camera is setup for USB transfers and I format the card before running the test. E5700 Firmware version 1.1 Shika Flash Turbo 256MB format card by camera 1 picture takes about 45 seconds to store and then release the camera. 3 pictures taken sequentially, the camera is released for another pricture at 48 seconds, and a complete release of the camera at 2 minutes, 12 seconds. SanDisk 256MB format card by camera 1 picture takes about 30 seconds to store and then release the camera. 3 pictures taken sequentially, the camera is released for another pricture at 34 seconds, and a complete release of the camera at 1 minute, 26 seconds. NIKON SanDisk 32MB format card by camera 1 picture takes about 25 seconds to store and then release the camera. format card by camera 3 pictures taken sequentially, the camera is released for another pricture at 25 seconds, and a complete release of the camera at 1 minute, 6 seconds. My conclusions from this test is that there is a distinct measurable difference between the storage times of the three cards that I have and thier interoperation with the NIKON 5700. I further conclude that I was misled by the verbage on the Shika card, believing it to be faster and thus shooting with it most of hte time when I should have been using the SanDisk. Couple this information wiht that from others and it would seem that the camera does react to Compact Flash card speed, but as to how much is not known. NIKON are definately not passing on complete or accurate information about this camera and the Compact Flash cards. The 8700 is a CoolPIX and if it does support the Lexar WA, then the NIKON statement that CoolPIX do not is bogus. Now on to another question, what settings in the camera could possibly influence the storage times. I did my tests with my camera set to User Mode C1, which I have some typical things predefined, possibly these setting are causing the DSP inside to work on the data before it gets stored or what? rtt |
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Found it, here are the actual test results I posted last week.I sat down
with my three Compact Flash cards and did some basic timing with a watch with a seconds hand. This, compared to my previous post, where I had been estimating time. Here are my findings. Shooting at full resoluiton in RAW NEF mode, camera is setup for USB transfers and I format the card before running the test. E5700 Firmware version 1.1 Shika Flash Turbo 256MB format card by camera 1 picture takes about 45 seconds to store and then release the camera. 3 pictures taken sequentially, the camera is released for another pricture at 48 seconds, and a complete release of the camera at 2 minutes, 12 seconds. SanDisk 256MB format card by camera 1 picture takes about 30 seconds to store and then release the camera. 3 pictures taken sequentially, the camera is released for another pricture at 34 seconds, and a complete release of the camera at 1 minute, 26 seconds. NIKON SanDisk 32MB format card by camera 1 picture takes about 25 seconds to store and then release the camera. format card by camera 3 pictures taken sequentially, the camera is released for another pricture at 25 seconds, and a complete release of the camera at 1 minute, 6 seconds. My conclusions from this test is that there is a distinct measurable difference between the storage times of the three cards that I have and thier interoperation with the NIKON 5700. I further conclude that I was misled by the verbage on the Shika card, believing it to be faster and thus shooting with it most of hte time when I should have been using the SanDisk. Couple this information wiht that from others and it would seem that the camera does react to Compact Flash card speed, but as to how much is not known. NIKON are definately not passing on complete or accurate information about this camera and the Compact Flash cards. The 8700 is a CoolPIX and if it does support the Lexar WA, then the NIKON statement that CoolPIX do not is bogus. Now on to another question, what settings in the camera could possibly influence the storage times. I did my tests with my camera set to User Mode C1, which I have some typical things predefined, possibly these setting are causing the DSP inside to work on the data before it gets stored or what? rtt |
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