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Canon Elan 7NE vs. EOS 3
Are there great advantages of the EOS 3? Used EOS 3 prices on EBay are not that
much more than a new 7NE. Of course technology marches on, so perhaps one has an advantage. |
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The EOS3 is a "professional" camera, and is built accordingly. It is very
well sealed against moisture and dust. It can shoot at about 8 frames per second (with a booster). Because of all these things, it is also very heavy. If you really need the tank-like construction and the environmental sealing, fine, but for what I do, I'd much rather have a 7NE hanging around my neck. The 7NE is also quite a bit quieter in operation. Hope that helps. -- Remove numeral in e-mail address to send e-mails. www.marshallarts.com.au "HugYourPug" wrote in message ... Are there great advantages of the EOS 3? Used EOS 3 prices on EBay are not that much more than a new 7NE. Of course technology marches on, so perhaps one has an advantage. |
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The EOS3 is a "professional" camera, and is built accordingly. It is very
well sealed against moisture and dust. It can shoot at about 8 frames per second (with a booster). Because of all these things, it is also very heavy. If you really need the tank-like construction and the environmental sealing, fine, but for what I do, I'd much rather have a 7NE hanging around my neck. The 7NE is also quite a bit quieter in operation. Hope that helps. -- Remove numeral in e-mail address to send e-mails. www.marshallarts.com.au "HugYourPug" wrote in message ... Are there great advantages of the EOS 3? Used EOS 3 prices on EBay are not that much more than a new 7NE. Of course technology marches on, so perhaps one has an advantage. |
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"Steve Marshall" wrote in message ... The EOS3 is a "professional" camera, and is built accordingly. It is very well sealed against moisture and dust. It can shoot at about 8 frames per THAT, unfortunately is complete bull****. This little bit of info is the only one I have seen in the net, that is consistently incorrect from unofficial sources. I have photographed in the rain a few times, and now the camera is badly corroded. When I asked the official Canon service personnel, they said that EOS3 is certainly NOT watertight. Asked from Canon USA in the web, the same response... The estimate is 585e MINIMUM, they can not see all the corrosion until they have taken the camera completely apart. And I mean completely... --markus |
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"Steve Marshall" wrote in message ... The EOS3 is a "professional" camera, and is built accordingly. It is very well sealed against moisture and dust. It can shoot at about 8 frames per THAT, unfortunately is complete bull****. This little bit of info is the only one I have seen in the net, that is consistently incorrect from unofficial sources. I have photographed in the rain a few times, and now the camera is badly corroded. When I asked the official Canon service personnel, they said that EOS3 is certainly NOT watertight. Asked from Canon USA in the web, the same response... The estimate is 585e MINIMUM, they can not see all the corrosion until they have taken the camera completely apart. And I mean completely... --markus |
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"Markus Malmqvist" wrote in message
... "Steve Marshall" wrote in message ... The EOS3 is a "professional" camera, and is built accordingly. It is very well sealed against moisture and dust. It can shoot at about 8 frames per THAT, unfortunately is complete bull****. This little bit of info is the only one I have seen in the net, that is consistently incorrect from unofficial sources. I have photographed in the rain a few times, and now the camera is badly corroded. When I asked the official Canon service personnel, they said that EOS3 is certainly NOT watertight. Asked from Canon USA in the web, the same response... The estimate is 585e MINIMUM, they can not see all the corrosion until they have taken the camera completely apart. And I mean completely... --markus "Well sealed" and "water tight" are not the same thing. The EOS3 was claimed, at its release, to have water and dust seals the equivalent of the then outgoing 1n. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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THAT, unfortunately is complete bull****. This little bit of info is the
only one I have seen in the net, that is consistently incorrect from unofficial sources. I have photographed in the rain a few times, and now the camera is badly corroded. When I asked the official Canon service personnel, they said that EOS3 is certainly NOT watertight. Asked from Canon USA in the web, the same response... The estimate is 585e MINIMUM, they can not see all the corrosion until they have taken the camera completely apart. And I mean completely... --markus "Well sealed" and "water tight" are not the same thing. The EOS3 was claimed, at its release, to have water and dust seals the equivalent of the then outgoing 1n. OK, I was not being exact enough about terminology. In any case, the camera could not handle rain that I was easily handling without any rain gear. So certainly not heavy rain. The worst symptoms it got in wet snow rain. For the fun of it I will include the Very Official Canon answer: Dear Mr. Malmqvist, Thank you for your inquiry. The EOS 3 is not designed to be used in rain or high humidity. The EOS 1v is our only water and dust resistant model. Please note, Canon USA does not monitor, confirm, endorse, or attest to the accuracy of any information posted on third party websites. It seems many customers are overwhelmed by the barrage of information (or misinformation) being posted on unregulated, non-Canon websites. Unfortunately, this is not something over which Canon has any control. We are able only to confirm the performance of the camera based on our own testing. Please feel free to contact us if you have any further questions or concerns. Thank you for choosing Canon. Sincerely, Chris Product Support Representative Original Message Follows: ------------------------- Email Support Form Message Product Type: EOS-3 Product Model: IslandData Session: INQUIRY: Hi, Canon EOS 3 weather sealing: fact or fiction? In the net everyone claims that sealing exists. Therefore I have used my camera in high humidity and rain. However, corrosion have now eaten the components for six months and damage is great. Repair 585e minimum. It works, but battery expenses can be as large as film. Canon service person claims there is next to nothing sealing in EOS 3. He also says that officially there is no special sealing, has never been. They say manual warns about weather, but I can not locate it now. It would be interesting to know what is the truth. I have never before seen such consistent disinformation in the net... I have insurance, have not checked yet, but it probably will not cover this, because no "accident" has happened. Sadly they probably do not count ignorance and misinformation as accident. Markus Malmqvist Product Serial Number: 2732458 First Name: Markus Last Name: Malmqvist |
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THAT, unfortunately is complete bull****. This little bit of info is the
only one I have seen in the net, that is consistently incorrect from unofficial sources. I have photographed in the rain a few times, and now the camera is badly corroded. When I asked the official Canon service personnel, they said that EOS3 is certainly NOT watertight. Asked from Canon USA in the web, the same response... The estimate is 585e MINIMUM, they can not see all the corrosion until they have taken the camera completely apart. And I mean completely... --markus "Well sealed" and "water tight" are not the same thing. The EOS3 was claimed, at its release, to have water and dust seals the equivalent of the then outgoing 1n. OK, I was not being exact enough about terminology. In any case, the camera could not handle rain that I was easily handling without any rain gear. So certainly not heavy rain. The worst symptoms it got in wet snow rain. For the fun of it I will include the Very Official Canon answer: Dear Mr. Malmqvist, Thank you for your inquiry. The EOS 3 is not designed to be used in rain or high humidity. The EOS 1v is our only water and dust resistant model. Please note, Canon USA does not monitor, confirm, endorse, or attest to the accuracy of any information posted on third party websites. It seems many customers are overwhelmed by the barrage of information (or misinformation) being posted on unregulated, non-Canon websites. Unfortunately, this is not something over which Canon has any control. We are able only to confirm the performance of the camera based on our own testing. Please feel free to contact us if you have any further questions or concerns. Thank you for choosing Canon. Sincerely, Chris Product Support Representative Original Message Follows: ------------------------- Email Support Form Message Product Type: EOS-3 Product Model: IslandData Session: INQUIRY: Hi, Canon EOS 3 weather sealing: fact or fiction? In the net everyone claims that sealing exists. Therefore I have used my camera in high humidity and rain. However, corrosion have now eaten the components for six months and damage is great. Repair 585e minimum. It works, but battery expenses can be as large as film. Canon service person claims there is next to nothing sealing in EOS 3. He also says that officially there is no special sealing, has never been. They say manual warns about weather, but I can not locate it now. It would be interesting to know what is the truth. I have never before seen such consistent disinformation in the net... I have insurance, have not checked yet, but it probably will not cover this, because no "accident" has happened. Sadly they probably do not count ignorance and misinformation as accident. Markus Malmqvist Product Serial Number: 2732458 First Name: Markus Last Name: Malmqvist |
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"Markus Malmqvist" wrote in message
... "Well sealed" and "water tight" are not the same thing. The EOS3 was claimed, at its release, to have water and dust seals the equivalent of the then outgoing 1n. OK, I was not being exact enough about terminology. In any case, the camera could not handle rain that I was easily handling without any rain gear. So certainly not heavy rain. The worst symptoms it got in wet snow rain. For the fun of it I will include the Very Official Canon answer: Dear Mr. Malmqvist, Thank you for your inquiry. The EOS 3 is not designed to be used in rain or high humidity. The EOS 1v is our only water and dust resistant model. Please note, Canon USA does not monitor, confirm, endorse, or attest to the accuracy of any information posted on third party websites. It seems many customers are overwhelmed by the barrage of information (or misinformation) being posted on unregulated, non-Canon websites. Unfortunately, this is not something over which Canon has any control. We are able only to confirm the performance of the camera based on our own testing. Please feel free to contact us if you have any further questions or concerns. Thank you for choosing Canon. Sincerely, Chris Product Support Representative Original Message Follows: ------------------------- That's an interesting dodge they gave you. Needless to say, I don't have a brochure at hand for the 3 or for the 1n, but I do remember the Canon lit saying that the 3 was as well sealed against the elements as the 1n. Now, if the 1n was supposed to be sealed against the elements, but the 1v is better, where does that leave the 3? -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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"Skip M" wrote in message
news:Wu1Yc.110149$Lj.53157@fed1read03... "Markus Malmqvist" wrote in message ... Original Message Follows: ------------------------- That's an interesting dodge they gave you. Needless to say, I don't have a brochure at hand for the 3 or for the 1n, but I do remember the Canon lit saying that the 3 was as well sealed against the elements as the 1n. Now, if the 1n was supposed to be sealed against the elements, but the 1v is better, where does that leave the 3? I've just checked my copies of the official Canon brochures for the EOS3, EOS1V and 1n (unfortunately this latter is included in a general brochure). There's no mention about weatherproofing in any of the "Specification" sections. period The 1V gets 4 pages devoted to body and weatherproofing with a photo of the 1V covered in raindrops. There's a short paragraph stating that the "EOS-3 has the same level of protection against dust and the elements as the EOS-1N", and it then details the shaft and seal design aspects. Next para starts with " The EOS-3's electrical system, its lifeline, is also protected from the elements with all the important electrical contacts being bipolar and gold plated. Even if dust or grit causes problems for one electrical contact, the camera can still continue to operate normally." Despite the above, only my EOS3 (out of 7 EOS bodies over several years) has required expensive servicing by Canon to rectify very poor battery life - clearly an electrical fault! It's OK now. EOS Magazine may be able to help with wording from the 1N brochure. -- M Stewart Milton Keynes, UK http://www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk\oddimage.htm |
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