Has your memory card ever worn out?

nospam wrote:
In article , Wolfgang
Weisselberg wrote:

They are terribly inefficient. Install MS-DOS on a modern high-end
PC,
and
you'll see just how fast the hardware really is.

and then do what with it?

Run programs.

on dos?????

Sure. That's what we did back then ... sometimes we did even
start Windows.

that was then. this is now.

people also used manual typewriters long ago too. there's no reason to
go back to that.

I see, you don't like anything that's older than, say, 2 years,
because it's old.

nonsense.

Oh, so you like manual type writers and run programs on DOS?


And that means you can play all the dos games or C=64 games on
IOS, right?

there's a c64 emulator

Which was rejected by Apple ... and only has a very limited
number of games --- no way to add your own.

and probably a dos one too.

Which was rejected by Apple ... and only has a very limited
number of games --- no way to add your own.


Yep, you can play all the DOS games and C=64 games --- if you
define "all" == "6 pre-chosen ones"


photoshop, lightroom, firefox and other browsers, plus just about
everything else i use, will not run on dos.

Everyone is you. Again.

you really think that very many people use dos these days? seriously?

Everyone is you. Again. You can't think beyond your own
nose. Again.

that describes you.

That describes you.

just because *you* use dos (and mxmanic for that matter) doesn't mean
very many others do.

most people use windows, followed by mac os x. dos isn't even a dot on
the chart.

So let's disallow Mac OS X, noone uses it.


btw, what image editor do you use on dos? this ought to be good.

You obviously are too lazy to google.

i'm asking you. google will not tell me which one *you* use.

What brain do you use?


no modern software will run on ms-dos,

Which is actually also wrong, as a quick google will show.
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ak621/DOS/DOS-Fal.html

photoshop, lightroom, aperture and final cut pro all run on dos?

| Everyone is you. Again. You can't think beyond your own
| nose. Again.

You're an idiot.


users don't care what language an app is written in. what they care
about is getting work done and they look for apps to help them do that.

Yep, and you can do so in DOS.

not as effectively as with modern apps.

And you know that is a fact because you don't use DOS.


how many linux apps were
written in cobol, anyway?

The there are quite a few cobol compilers for Linux.

how many people actually use them, versus gcc?

Many Cobol compilers translate to C, which is then processed
by gcc. So your question doesn't make sense.

nor does your answer.

My answer does make sense, it's just that you are too
braindead to understand.


how many people are actively writing new cobol apps?

More than people who are writing the new "photoshop,
lightroom, aperture and final cut pro". Which according to
you are the most important programs ever.


And the question is not "how many people use (any given compiler)",
but "how many people are affected by (any given program)".
Cobol handles more transactions per day than Google processes
web searches.

no, that's not the question.

I cannot help that you don't want to see the reality. That's
not even surprising, that's your standard behaviour.


and they're faltering. they've had many failures
recently and that looks like it's going to continue.

"faltering"? Have they suddenly lost 99% of their money so
they are actually only a couple magnitudes richer than most
of the developer companies?

microsoft is faltering.

"faltering"? Have they suddenly lost 99% of their money so
they are actually only a couple magnitudes richer than most
of the developer companies?

they don't need to lose 99% of their money to be faltering.

they're losing ground against apple, google and others, and unless that
changes, they will end up a fraction of their former self.

And if you repeat that 10.000 times, you may even believe
that that's true and that that would have any impact.


the microsoft kin was a huge, huge failure.

It put a huge dent of 0.01% into Microsoft's wealth?

so what?

Failure, yes. Like many projects from many companies. "huge,
huge failure"? Hah. A "huge, huge failure" is when the company
fails due to that and the executive personel is in prison.

nonsense.

prison is not a requirement for huge failure.

It is for "a huge, huge failure".


sales of the kin were horrible and the product was killed just 2 months
after being introduced. it was a huge failure. they lost a *lot* of
money on it.

Yes, probably 0.01% of their money. If they do that 10.000 times,
then we talk.


there won't ever be a kin 2 and windows phone will at best be a distant
third place player. it's an ios & android world going forward.

Yep, and before that it was a different world, and after that it
will be a different world. Only idiots like you think it's IOS and
Android forever, and at the same time claim that Windows forever
is not true --- beause only idiots don't manage to transfer the
clues from one to the other.

i never said ios and android will be forever, but they will be the
dominant mobile operating systems for a very long time.

Android has been available for 4 years and has ~70% market
share. So why do you think noone else can douplicate that?
There's a more than even chance that someone duplicates that
in a decade.


windows won't be forever

And yet Windows has been out since 1985, 27 years ago ...


it's sort of like kodak. they were king of the film era and failed to
transition to digital. now they're bankrupt.

Kodak lived for 120 years. Many other companies lived much
shorter.

Next you'll find some example of a company that lived for 3
centuries and then the Catholic Church as examples.


a lot of people are expecting windows 8 to fail,
including one game company who said it will be a 'catastrophe.'

So how many times "one game company" equals the worth of Microsoft?
How many people listen to "one game company" (I mean except you
and people only hearing what they want to hear)? How many listen
to Microsoft?

not that many listen to microsoft anymore.

Practically all desktop and laptop users do.

but not tablet and smartphone users, which is where the future is.

Ah, yes, *you* know the future. We all know that augmented reality
is the real future, and therefore we'll do away with such crude
stuff like tablets and smartphones. Images will be created by
glasses, contact lenses or direct connections to the optical
nerve or to the brain itself.

-Wolfgang

On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:27:13 +0200, Wolfgang Weisselberg
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:03:28 +0200, Wolfgang Weisselberg
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:12:33 +0200, Wolfgang Weisselberg
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 23:34:03 +0200, Wolfgang Weisselberg
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 00:06:12 +0200, Wolfgang Weisselberg


If there's a problem, it's in the graphics subsystem (in this
case probably the window manager), not in VB. I don't believe VB
would go way out of it's way to find out the monitor rotation and
then misbehave out of spite because of that information, when it
could just handle the situation just like on any old screen and
let the proper specialists handle the window placements and so on?

Drop-down menus normally come from the top of the screen. When I
rotated the screen to the portrait position the main application
(whatever it was) resized itself to the new screen position. Howver,
drop down menus emerged from the now vertical right hand side
(previously the top) with text lines running vertically downwards and
text oriented so as to be read from the LHS (previously the bottom of
the screen). I think I had similar problems with some dockers also.

Drop down menus of what program did behave like that?

This was a long time ago!

I suspect the offending programs may have been one or two of Photo
Paint, Quattro Pro and possibly Visual CAD. I can't remember how Word
Perfect and Paradox behaved. Just about anyone of these programs not
behaving would have been enough to rule out the Radius software.

Go ask your OS and video driver to work correctly or ask your
money back.

Apart from the fact that I've thrown the stuff out years ago, what
would you suggest I buy instead?

Something that works. Didn't you find something?

Are you suggesting going round all the vendors, installing all my
software, and then trying it to see how it behaves? You gotta be
joking.

Well, or living with broken software, or relying on the reports
of others. That are your choices.

Or not rotating the screen, which is what I decided to do.


But I suggest you get your vendor to fix it.

Why. They sold me the hardware. This is a software problem. You just
ask them.

So you didn't buy your software, noone wrote it ... ?

I was disappointed that it didn't work but it wasn't worth the hassle
to me. Not like the time my backup software munched my hard disc.


You have to bear in mind that even
then I had a complex mix of software which I had to run.

Well, then you might have to replace the software with other
software. Which you eventually did, didn't you?

Generally no. Upgrades certainly but otherwise I have maintained
vertical and to the best of my ability, cross compatability. I've had
to by the nature of my work.

So you are using open formats. Always a good idea.

It's called Windows. :-)
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

Eric Stevens wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:27:13 +0200, Wolfgang Weisselberg
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:03:28 +0200, Wolfgang Weisselberg

Are you suggesting going round all the vendors, installing all my
software, and then trying it to see how it behaves? You gotta be
joking.

Well, or living with broken software, or relying on the reports
of others. That are your choices.

Or not rotating the screen, which is what I decided to do.

Well ...


Well, then you might have to replace the software with other
software. Which you eventually did, didn't you?

Generally no. Upgrades certainly but otherwise I have maintained
vertical and to the best of my ability, cross compatability. I've had
to by the nature of my work.

So you are using open formats. Always a good idea.

It's called Windows. :-)

So you don't have vertical and certainly no cross compatability.
Not even when staying with MS programs.

-Wolfgang