Pbase removes plagiarized image from bully's site

Today Pbase removed an image from Bret Douglas's gallery after a
complaint by a Professional Photographer that he had plagiarized a
wedding portrait (breached copyright) belonging to the Pro.

It seems Bret took an image belonging to ScottW and altered it to
include a wedding Portrait he had obtained without authority. There is
a warning here for everyone who posts images to the Internet and makes
critical remarks about other Photographers.

ScottW has something of a history of being outspoken. Apparently Bret
Douglas decided he too, was fair game for his bullying and
intimidation against anyone who didn't like his pictures. The fact
that that this image remained on Bret's site after he was warned of
pending legal action is just more damning evidence he has absolutely
no regard for who he involves in his activities.

Details of the complaint and Pbase's short reply are he
http://www.annika1980.com/plagiarized.htm

Julian.

On May 30, 1:28 pm, Julian wrote:
Today Pbase removed an image from Bret Douglas's gallery after a
complaint by a Professional Photographer that he had plagiarized a
wedding portrait (breached copyright) belonging to the Pro.

It seems Bret took an image belonging to ScottW and altered it to
include a wedding Portrait he had obtained without authority. There is
a warning here for everyone who posts images to the Internet and makes
critical remarks about other Photographers.

ScottW has something of a history of being outspoken. Apparently Bret
Douglas decided he too, was fair game for his bullying and
intimidation against anyone who didn't like his pictures. The fact
that that this image remained on Bret's site after he was warned of
pending legal action is just more damning evidence he has absolutely
no regard for who he involves in his activities.

Douglas, give it a rest why don't you. Bret did a joke with my photo
with I am totally ok with, as for your image being used in it this
would come under fair use I would think.

Scott

On May 30, 7:28 pm, Julian wrote:
Today Pbase removed an image from Bret Douglas's gallery after a
complaint by a Professional Photographer that he had plagiarized a
wedding portrait (breached copyright) belonging to the Pro.

No, you stupid liar, I removed the image, not PBase.
Emily at PBase contacted me and I explained that I posted the image
with full consent of it's owner, Scott W. But thanks for the heads
up. It gave me a chance to alert PBase to your shenanigans and they
promptly removed the pics from your silly little pbase.com/
bret_douglas gallery. Still sucks to be you, D-Mac.

Who Rules?

Julian wrote:
Today Pbase removed an image from Bret Douglas's gallery after a
complaint by a Professional Photographer that he had plagiarized a
wedding portrait (breached copyright) belonging to the Pro.

It seems Bret took an image belonging to ScottW and altered it to
include a wedding Portrait he had obtained without authority. There is
a warning here for everyone who posts images to the Internet and makes
critical remarks about other Photographers.

ScottW has something of a history of being outspoken. Apparently Bret
Douglas decided he too, was fair game for his bullying and
intimidation against anyone who didn't like his pictures. The fact
that that this image remained on Bret's site after he was warned of
pending legal action is just more damning evidence he has absolutely
no regard for who he involves in his activities.

Details of the complaint and Pbase's short reply are he
http://www.annika1980.com/plagiarized.htm

Julian.


For someone trying to get this group back on topic you still seem to be
posting a lot of ****

On May 30, 7:48 pm, Annika1980 wrote:
On May 30, 7:28 pm, Julian wrote:

Today Pbase removed an image from Bret Douglas's gallery after a
complaint by a Professional Photographer that he had plagiarized a
wedding portrait (breached copyright) belonging to the Pro.

No, you stupid liar, I removed the image, not PBase.
Emily at PBase contacted me and I explained that I posted the image
with full consent of it's owner, Scott W. But thanks for the heads
up. It gave me a chance to alert PBase to your shenanigans and they
promptly removed the pics from your silly little pbase.com/
bret_douglas gallery. Still sucks to be you, D-Mac.

Who Rules?

CHECKMATE!!
LOL!

On May 30, 8:27 pm, Vintage Monk wrote:

For someone trying to get this group back on topic you still seem to be
posting a lot of ****

It appears that D-Mac's doc only gives him about an 8-day supply of
meds. After that, he's back to his multiple-personalities stirring
the ****.

Julian wrote:
Today Pbase removed an image from Bret Douglas's gallery after a
complaint by a Professional Photographer that he had plagiarized a
wedding portrait (breached copyright) belonging to the Pro.

It seems Bret took an image belonging to ScottW and altered it to
include a wedding Portrait he had obtained without authority. There is
a warning here for everyone who posts images to the Internet and makes
critical remarks about other Photographers.

ScottW has something of a history of being outspoken. Apparently Bret
Douglas decided he too, was fair game for his bullying and
intimidation against anyone who didn't like his pictures. The fact
that that this image remained on Bret's site after he was warned of
pending legal action is just more damning evidence he has absolutely
no regard for who he involves in his activities.

Details of the complaint and Pbase's short reply are he
http://www.annika1980.com/plagiarized.htm

Julian.

Doug... I was literally just about to write you an off-group e-mail to
congratulate you for letting go of the crap, and offering fairly
level-headed posts for the last few days... I even wrote to Bret to comment
that you seemed to be acting fairly normal...even pleasant.

-But then I come home from work only to see you pulling more of the same
old, tired crap.

Very disappointing.

You'll note that I've responded positively to you in several recent threads,
and have overtly agreed with, and supported, some of your
photography-related posts. This is because when you keep a level head,
there is no reason not to engage you. But when you start doing this again,
there's very little reason to think better of you.

You started a good thing two or three days ago when you stopped making
constant references to stuff and tried to take a better road. Please return
to that so people (myself included) can discover that there really is more
to you...than this.

Mark²

--
Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
www.pbase.com/markuson

On May 31, 1:39 pm, "Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number
wrote:
Julian wrote:
Today Pbase removed an image from Bret Douglas's gallery after a
complaint by a Professional Photographer that he had plagiarized a
wedding portrait (breached copyright) belonging to the Pro.

It seems Bret took an image belonging to ScottW and altered it to
include a wedding Portrait he had obtained without authority. There is
a warning here for everyone who posts images to the Internet and makes
critical remarks about other Photographers.

ScottW has something of a history of being outspoken. Apparently Bret
Douglas decided he too, was fair game for his bullying and
intimidation against anyone who didn't like his pictures. The fact
that that this image remained on Bret's site after he was warned of
pending legal action is just more damning evidence he has absolutely
no regard for who he involves in his activities.

Details of the complaint and Pbase's short reply are he
http://www.annika1980.com/plagiarized.htm

Julian.

Doug... I was literally just about to write you an off-group e-mail to
congratulate you for letting go of the crap, and offering fairly
level-headed posts for the last few days... I even wrote to Bret to comment
that you seemed to be acting fairly normal...even pleasant.

-But then I come home from work only to see you pulling more of the same
old, tired crap.

Very disappointing.

You'll note that I've responded positively to you in several recent threads,
and have overtly agreed with, and supported, some of your
photography-related posts. This is because when you keep a level head,
there is no reason not to engage you. But when you start doing this again,
there's very little reason to think better of you.

You started a good thing two or three days ago when you stopped making
constant references to stuff and tried to take a better road. Please return
to that so people (myself included) can discover that there really is more
to you...than this.

Mark²

--
Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
www.pbase.com/markuson

First and last, I'm not Doug, despite what you and a few others think.
Julian

Julian wrote:
On May 31, 1:39 pm, "Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number
wrote:
Julian wrote:
Today Pbase removed an image from Bret Douglas's gallery after a
complaint by a Professional Photographer that he had plagiarized a
wedding portrait (breached copyright) belonging to the Pro.

It seems Bret took an image belonging to ScottW and altered it to
include a wedding Portrait he had obtained without authority. There
is a warning here for everyone who posts images to the Internet and
makes critical remarks about other Photographers.

ScottW has something of a history of being outspoken. Apparently
Bret Douglas decided he too, was fair game for his bullying and
intimidation against anyone who didn't like his pictures. The fact
that that this image remained on Bret's site after he was warned of
pending legal action is just more damning evidence he has absolutely
no regard for who he involves in his activities.

Details of the complaint and Pbase's short reply are he
http://www.annika1980.com/plagiarized.htm

Julian.

Doug... I was literally just about to write you an off-group e-mail
to congratulate you for letting go of the crap, and offering fairly
level-headed posts for the last few days... I even wrote to Bret to
comment that you seemed to be acting fairly normal...even pleasant.

-But then I come home from work only to see you pulling more of the
same old, tired crap.

Very disappointing.

You'll note that I've responded positively to you in several recent
threads, and have overtly agreed with, and supported, some of your
photography-related posts. This is because when you keep a level
head, there is no reason not to engage you. But when you start
doing this again, there's very little reason to think better of you.

You started a good thing two or three days ago when you stopped
making constant references to stuff and tried to take a better road.
Please return to that so people (myself included) can discover that
there really is more to you...than this.

Mark²

--
Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
www.pbase.com/markuson

First and last, I'm not Doug, despite what you and a few others think.
Julian

If you REALLY aren't Doug, then Doug should kick your sorry arse off his
computer...out of his house/shop...and out of his life forever, because
you've done nothing but harm Doug even worse than he harms himself.

You (if you aren't Doug) have done irreparable damage to him, and have had
zero positive impact of any kind on him with your posts to this forum. If
you're his friend, you will shut your yap, and quit helping to make him look
like a lunatic. If you want to help Doug, you will simply stop.

On May 31, 9:39 am, Scott W wrote:
On May 30, 1:28 pm, Julian wrote:

Today Pbase removed an image from Bret Douglas's gallery after a
complaint by a Professional Photographer that he had plagiarized a
wedding portrait (breached copyright) belonging to the Pro.

It seems Bret took an image belonging to ScottW and altered it to
include a wedding Portrait he had obtained without authority. There is
a warning here for everyone who posts images to the Internet and makes
critical remarks about other Photographers.

ScottW has something of a history of being outspoken. Apparently Bret
Douglas decided he too, was fair game for his bullying and
intimidation against anyone who didn't like his pictures. The fact
that that this image remained on Bret's site after he was warned of
pending legal action is just more damning evidence he has absolutely
no regard for who he involves in his activities.

Douglas, give it a rest why don't you. Bret did a joke with my photo
with I am totally ok with, as for your image being used in it this
would come under fair use I would think.

Scott

Fair use is subject to a balance test.
A balancing test occurs in the copyright domain, when analyzing
whether a particular usage of a copyrighted work constitutes "fair
use". The Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property
Rights (TRIPs) Article 13 allows for uses "which do not conflict with
a normal exploitation of the work and do not unreasonably prejudice
the legitimate interests of the right holder."

If you or anyone else thinks embarrassing the image owner or causing
the owner's clients to threaten legal action if the images remain in
possession of the person who had no authority to take it in the first
place and who committed fraud when they illegally posted them on a
forged site at Pbase, complete with defamatory remarks about Doug's
clients, fits anywhere in the balancing test of fair use, you really
ought to give up on your attempts at understanding Copyright law.

Bret Douglas could have taken down that image any time. He didn't. He
left it there knowing the furor it would create when it was
discovered. The man is a idiot. He is the one responsible for the
crap, not me or Doug. God only know where else he's uploaded them and
until I am convinced none of Doug's client's images are posted
anywhere on the Internet by Bret Douglas or any of his puppets, expect
to see "the crap start all over again" when I find them.

So here's a warning to the image thief. Get Doug's images out of your
possession if you want any hope of a peaceful time on Usenet. As for
Bret Douglas calling me a liar. He is the one who stole Doug's
identity and tried to break into his business account on eBay. He is
the one who struck the first blow by stealing Doug's images and
forging Doug's identity. If anyone can "stop the crap"it's Bret
Douglas. All he has to do is get rid of the photos he has not
authority or legal right to have. Only then will the crap stop. And
for Christ sake stop referring to me a Doug.

Julian
My all time favorite web site:
http://www.annika1980.com