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Love the Coolpix F-mount Adapter, too
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:14:23 -0500, Rich wrote:
Scroll down 1/2 page. A D3200 with 24mp. Poor little 18-55mm kit lens, it won't know what hit it... http://nikonrumors.com/ I wonder if anyone actually bought into that one? Good April Fool's joke. |
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Entry level Nikon 24mp?!
Bruce wrote:
[...] Rich wrote: http://nikonrumors.com/ It will be fascinating to watch how the D3200 changes the market. It will be much more fascinating to watch the faces when the D3200 appears right after the Canon 3D arrives (which has been rumored for a long time now ...) Well, I wouldn't mind if Nikon would mix up the market --- there's no need that Canon should become complacent. -Wolfgang |
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Entry level Nikon 24mp?!
David J Taylor wrote:
"Wolfgang Weisselberg" wrote in message ... David J Taylor wrote: There's some sense in making the sensor resolution rather higher than the lens resolution. It reduces the need for an anti-alias filter, Not really. Unless there won't be any lens mountable, now or in future, Nikon or Zeiss or any other 3rd party lens maker, that'll be better than the given lens quality/AA filter strength assumptions. (Which means: for fixed lens cameras that's true, for interchangeable lens cameras, not so.) I'm thinking this is an entry-level camera, and that people are unlikely to use first-class lenses with it. Maybe, but then they wouldn't be fully compatible to the EF and EF-S range. I'll just note that comparatively cheap macro lenses and low-priced 50mm lenses can have ... rather high resolutions. I would be surprised if an entry level DSLR has 24 MP, but it's not impossible if Nikon has a good deal on the sensors. Maybe Nikon want to strengthen their position as the supplier of choice? Or restart the megapixel race in the DSLR space. Or provide greater differentiation between DSLR and CSC lines? Could be ... -Wolfgang |
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Entry level Nikon 24mp?!
"RichA" wrote in message
... On Mar 30, 6:09 am, Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: David J Taylor wrote: And more pixels will always get more out of the lens. Just not necessarily nearly as much as the increased pixel count would indicate. Rich always looks at photos in 200% view, though ... -Wolfgang Are you all so blessed as to have so many lenses you never, ever have to crop? Do you want 8 megapixels on that 1/4 page crop, or 3? I prefer a zoom lens to cropping - I try to get the image I want in the camera, not by post-processing. If I do need to crop, it's usually by a small amount. David |
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Entry level Nikon 24mp?!
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:58:57 +0100, "David J Taylor"
wrote: : "RichA" wrote in message : ... : On Mar 30, 6:09 am, Wolfgang Weisselberg : wrote: : David J Taylor wrote: : : : And more pixels will always get more out of the lens. Just not : necessarily nearly as much as the increased pixel count would : indicate. : : Rich always looks at photos in 200% view, though ... : : -Wolfgang : : Are you all so blessed as to have so many lenses you never, ever have : to crop? Do you want 8 megapixels on that 1/4 page crop, or 3? : : I prefer a zoom lens to cropping - I try to get the image I want in the : camera, not by post-processing. If I do need to crop, it's usually by a : small amount. What you're saying is that the 3:2 aspect ratio is usually Fine & Dandy for your purposes. For some reason I find that I often have to crop to get the picture to look right, and I made myself a table of aspect ratios (available upon email request) to aid in that endeavor. To each his own artistic judgement, I guess one would have to say. Bob |
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Love the Coolpix F-mount Adapter, too
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 06:27:28 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote:
: On Apr 2, 7:16*pm, Bowser wrote: : On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:14:23 -0500, Rich wrote: : Scroll down 1/2 page. *A D3200 with 24mp. *Poor little 18-55mm kit lens, it : won't know what hit it... : : http://nikonrumors.com/ : : I wonder if anyone actually bought into that one? Good April Fool's : joke. : : It seems to cut against Nikon's conservative grain when it comes to : camera introductions. But it's possible that 24mp will be the : baseline pixel count now, even for DX. Well, they did go to 36MP wuile Canon was cutting back to a measly 24. Bob |
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Love the Coolpix F-mount Adapter, too
On 5/04/2012 12:29 PM, Robert Coe wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 06:27:28 -0700 (PDT), wrote: : On Apr 2, 7:16 pm, wrote: : On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:14:23 -0500, wrote: : Scroll down 1/2 page. A D3200 with 24mp. Poor little 18-55mm kit lens, it : won't know what hit it... : : http://nikonrumors.com/ : : I wonder if anyone actually bought into that one? Good April Fool's : joke. : : It seems to cut against Nikon's conservative grain when it comes to : camera introductions. But it's possible that 24mp will be the : baseline pixel count now, even for DX. Well, they did go to 36MP wuile Canon was cutting back to a measly 24. Bob They still have to be good pixels. The pixel density and other factors. Looking at and comparing different images from differing brands under field conditions, some are still far better than others. |
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Entry level Nikon 24mp?!
What you're saying is that the 3:2 aspect ratio is usually Fine & Dandy
for your purposes. For some reason I find that I often have to crop to get the picture to look right, and I made myself a table of aspect ratios (available upon email request) to aid in that endeavor. To each his own artistic judgement, I guess one would have to say. Bob Not, quite. With a 16:9 main display (HD TV), 3:2 isn't quite ideal, and there is the problem of portrait format images. Better to have borders on either side, or just take landscape? You might well crop, and you may lose camera pixels, but you have fewer display pixels available as well. Different if you're making prints, of course. Cheers, David |
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Entry level Nikon 24mp?!
RichA wrote:
On Mar 30, 6:09Â*am, Wolfgang Weisselberg David J Taylor wrote: And more pixels will always get more out of the lens. Â*Just not necessarily nearly as much as the increased pixel count would indicate. Rich always looks at photos in 200% view, though ... Are you all so blessed as to have so many lenses you never, ever have to crop? Now, RichA, yes, we do have lenses. For example, I can couple a 70-200mm f/2.8 IS with a 1.4x and 2x teleconverter (and still get a better image and more resolution with 8 MPix than a cropped 24 MPix with a 200mm lens). Cropping is only ever *required* for format changes (say 1:1). In real life in 99% I crop only slightly, if at all. Do you want 8 megapixels on that 1/4 page crop, or 3? A 1/4 page is (usually) around 4.25" x 5.5", or 2.1 MPix at 300 dpi. 8 MPix at that size is 585 dpi --- total overkill. So, yes, 3 Mpix is perfectly fine, thank you very much. -Wolfgang |
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Entry level Nikon 24mp?!
On 2012-04-04 22:27 , Robert Coe wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:58:57 +0100, "David J Taylor" : I prefer a zoom lens to cropping - I try to get the image I want in the : camera, not by post-processing. If I do need to crop, it's usually by a : small amount. What you're saying is that the 3:2 aspect ratio is usually Fine& Dandy for your purposes. For some reason I find that I often have to crop to get the picture to look right, and I made myself a table of aspect ratios (available upon email request) to aid in that endeavor. To each his own artistic judgement, I guess one would have to say. Depending on the output a handful of "standard" aspect ratios is fine. For some purposes the aspect ratio that works may be very unique. Commercial studio photogs usually sell their work in standard frames or albums. There are some photographers who insist on pure-shooting/not-to-crop photos (present exactly what is in the viewfinder), but that's a silly restriction. It may be a good training tool, but a bad outlook on presenting photos. It certainly does not account for the variety of aspect ratios in cameras. Personally I shoot the composition in frame - but I don't force it. If it needs cropping and aspect ratio change, it's going to get it later. -- "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." -Samuel Clemens. |
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