Shooting on rental property..... allowed?

On 9/11/07 10:06 PM, in article ,
"Art2U" wrote:

Michigan law and photography... allowed on apartment rental?

A few days ago, I was video taping my landlord trying too get my
neighbor to answer the door (truly a nut case; the neighbor that is).

One of the landlord funkies told me that I was allowed to shoot
anything on the property because it was private property.

Is this true?

-Art- (not Art)

Lay off the glue, put down the crack pipe, and try to ask again. This didn't
make ANY sense.

Art2U wrote:
Michigan law and photography... allowed on apartment rental?

A few days ago, I was video taping my landlord trying too get my
neighbor to answer the door (truly a nut case; the neighbor that is).

One of the landlord funkies told me that I was allowed to shoot
anything on the property because it was private property.

Is this true?

As usual, I'm not a lawyer although I can pretend to be one.

No, it's not true. You can shoot anything you like from your
property (rented or owned) because it's your property. You can
(generally) shoot as you like from public property. Shooting
on other people's property may be restricted as they choose.

Those are general rules. I don't know Michigan's specifics.

--
Ray Fischer

In article , wrote:
Art2U wrote:
Michigan law and photography... allowed on apartment rental?

A few days ago, I was video taping my landlord trying too get my
neighbor to answer the door (truly a nut case; the neighbor that is).

One of the landlord funkies told me that I was allowed to shoot
anything on the property because it was private property.

Is this true?

As usual, I'm not a lawyer although I can pretend to be one.

No, it's not true. You can shoot anything you like from your
property (rented or owned) because it's your property.

Ummm, if it's rented, then it's not your property; it's the
landlord's property. In general terms, the landlord gets
to make the rules on his property!

As a renter, you'll have certain rights. I suppose Michigan
law might give you a right to video tape your landlord and
neighbor but I personally doubt it.

I am not a lawyer and not familiar with the specific details
of Michigan law.

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Malcolm Hoar wrote:
wrote:
Art2U wrote:
Michigan law and photography... allowed on apartment rental?

A few days ago, I was video taping my landlord trying too get my
neighbor to answer the door (truly a nut case; the neighbor that is).

One of the landlord funkies told me that I was allowed to shoot
anything on the property because it was private property.

Is this true?

As usual, I'm not a lawyer although I can pretend to be one.

No, it's not true. You can shoot anything you like from your
property (rented or owned) because it's your property.

Ummm, if it's rented, then it's not your property; it's the
landlord's property.

Not quite true. Most states recognize the renter as having some
property rights. Landlords may NOT trespass or enter a renter's
residence without permission, for example.

In general terms, the landlord gets
to make the rules on his property!

As a renter, you'll have certain rights. I suppose Michigan
law might give you a right to video tape your landlord and
neighbor but I personally doubt it.

Unless it's in the rental agreement or in the lease the landlord does
not have the right to limit legal activities.

--
Ray Fischer

On Sep 11, 7:43 pm, (Malcolm Hoar) wrote:

As a renter, you'll have certain rights. I suppose Michigan
law might give you a right to video tape your landlord and
neighbor but I personally doubt it.


Generally, laws don't give you rights. They take them away.
So what law did he break?

Annika1980 wrote:
On Sep 11, 7:43 pm, (Malcolm Hoar) wrote:

As a renter, you'll have certain rights. I suppose Michigan
law might give you a right to video tape your landlord and
neighbor but I personally doubt it.


Generally, laws don't give you rights. They take them away.
So what law did he break?


Well, a Japanese kid was lost in Louisiana, went to a house for info and
the owner shot him. Didn't use a camera either, a real gun and killed
the kid. The shooter was acquitted, so if it's ok to shoot someone with
a gun, why not with a camera. This may not be the case in other
jurisdictions, so check before you shoot.
Dave Cohen

Michigan law and photography... allowed on apartment rental?

A few days ago, I was video taping my landlord trying too get my
neighbor to answer the door (truly a nut case; the neighbor that is).

One of the landlord funkies told me that I was allowed to shoot
anything on the property because it was private property.

Is this true?

-Art- (not Art)

In article , says...
In article , wrote:
Art2U wrote:
Michigan law and photography... allowed on apartment rental?
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But then, we get an opinion, followed by ...

I am not a lawyer and not familiar with the specific details
of Michigan law.

??? Then why TF did you reply???

Dave Cohen wrote:
Annika1980 wrote:
On Sep 11, 7:43 pm, (Malcolm Hoar) wrote:

As a renter, you'll have certain rights. I suppose Michigan
law might give you a right to video tape your landlord and
neighbor but I personally doubt it.


Generally, laws don't give you rights. They take them away.
So what law did he break?


Well, a Japanese kid was lost in Louisiana, went to a house for info and
the owner shot him. Didn't use a camera either, a real gun and killed
the kid. The shooter was acquitted, so if it's ok to shoot someone with
a gun, why not with a camera. This may not be the case in other
jurisdictions, so check before you shoot.
Dave Cohen

Yeah, but was the shooter the property owner or just renting?

On 9/11/07 9:46 PM, in article wqIFi.4224$BL3.2823@trndny01, "Dave Cohen"
wrote:

Annika1980 wrote:
On Sep 11, 7:43 pm, (Malcolm Hoar) wrote:

As a renter, you'll have certain rights. I suppose Michigan
law might give you a right to video tape your landlord and
neighbor but I personally doubt it.


Generally, laws don't give you rights. They take them away.
So what law did he break?


Well, a Japanese kid was lost in Louisiana, went to a house for info and
the owner shot him. Didn't use a camera either, a real gun and killed
the kid. The shooter was acquitted, so if it's ok to shoot someone with
a gun, why not with a camera. This may not be the case in other
jurisdictions, so check before you shoot.
Dave Cohen
The word "Louisana" explains it all. The laws of that state are not that of
any other.