Nikon LS-9000 and Color Negatives

I just got a new LS9000, and am having a problem with color negs that
contain bright colors. For example, I have a shot of a model wearing a
hot pink top shot under direct light (ring flash). No matter what scan
settings I use, I am not getting enough punch out of either the top or
her skin. In fact her skin looks somewhat greyish. I've fiddled
around with both auto and manual corrections, and analog gain, with no
results. It always ends up looking like the shot has been desaturated
somewhat.

Forgive me if this is really a novice question, but is this problem
unique to negative film, and is there an easy workaround? Should I try
alternatve scan software? Thanks.

"hassy_user" wrote in message
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I just got a new LS9000, and am having a problem with color negs that
contain bright colors. For example, I have a shot of a model wearing a
hot pink top shot under direct light (ring flash). No matter what scan
settings I use, I am not getting enough punch out of either the top or
her skin. In fact her skin looks somewhat greyish. I've fiddled
around with both auto and manual corrections, and analog gain, with no
results. It always ends up looking like the shot has been desaturated
somewhat.

Forgive me if this is really a novice question, but is this problem
unique to negative film, and is there an easy workaround? Should I try
alternatve scan software? Thanks.


Time to join the Yahoo group, Coolscan8000-9000.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coolscan8000-9000/

See you there.

Offhand I can't say exactly -- for one, I'm using the
LS-8000, and secondly, there aren't too many
flourescent colors in the landscape photos I take.

You may need to describe your workflow more
precisely. Also, review your color-managment
settings in NikonScan.

I do scan color negatives mostly, and have not
really seen any major "gamut" issues.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

i'm signing up now. thanks!

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"hassy_user" wrote:

I just got a new LS9000, and am having a problem with color negs that
contain bright colors. For example, I have a shot of a model wearing a
hot pink top shot under direct light (ring flash). No matter what scan
settings I use, I am not getting enough punch out of either the top or
her skin. In fact her skin looks somewhat greyish. I've fiddled
around with both auto and manual corrections, and analog gain, with no
results. It always ends up looking like the shot has been desaturated
somewhat.

Forgive me if this is really a novice question, but is this problem
unique to negative film, and is there an easy workaround? Should I try
alternatve scan software? Thanks.

I think its a problem with certain saturated colors, variations of red.

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

greg_____photo(dot)com

That sucks, as I like bright red colors. Is it a software or hardware
issue?

"hassy_user" wrote in message
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That sucks, as I like bright red colors. Is it a software or hardware
issue?


Blank's talking out of his butt here.

Are you using color management?
Is your monitor profiled?
Have you set up NikonScan properly for color management?
How do your scan histograms look?
Are you having similar problems scanning slides?
Have you read the scanner's User Guide?

Your LS-9000 should capture 100% of the tonality
present in C41 film. C41 doesn't come close to
challenging the dynamic range of the scanner.

There is a hack (workaround) for scanning negatives as
positives that I use with my LS-8000 -- but this hack
should not be needed on the LS-9000. I'll tell you more
about it if this thread continues.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

On 15 Feb 2006 14:51:53 -0800, "hassy_user"
wrote:

That sucks, as I like bright red colors. Is it a software or hardware
issue?


Oh, one more question: How do you know
these saturated colors are really there
in your negatives?

I mean, what's your reference? Do you
have an optical print (from these
negatives) or a scan made on another
scanner?


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

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"rafe b" wrote:

"hassy_user" wrote in message
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That sucks, as I like bright red colors. Is it a software or hardware
issue?


Blank's talking out of his butt here.

F-off


--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

greg_____photo(dot)com

In article ,
rafe b rafebATspeakeasy.net wrote:

On 15 Feb 2006 14:51:53 -0800, "hassy_user"
wrote:

That sucks, as I like bright red colors. Is it a software or hardware
issue?


Oh, one more question: How do you know
these saturated colors are really there
in your negatives?

I mean, what's your reference? Do you
have an optical print (from these
negatives) or a scan made on another
scanner?


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

Your Clueless.

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

greg_____photo(dot)com

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"hassy_user" wrote:

That sucks, as I like bright red colors. Is it a software or hardware
issue?

Probably a combination,..

The reason for my statement & to qualify it for the skeptic
twit-that seems inclined to disparage-rather than admit someone knows
something beyond he.

I have a one particular transparency 4x5 that I have a very high end
scan of and also scans that I have made using the 2450. Both sets of
scans mine and the prolab that did some of the highest clients here in
Baltimore-neither captures the exact tone of what the original is
capable of.

How do I know this? I made an R print that was perfect. Even after
manipulating the high end scan something just does not translate.
To look at the transparency its not overly exposed or under, the colors
being nicely saturated,...taken on a overcast day. Its just a narrow
band of red redpink color that seems to compress,...I'll post the image
in a follow up to this....



--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

greg_____photo(dot)com