Photographing children

In article ,
Big Bill wrote:

That's to be expected; the UK as an Official Secrets Act, which, AIUI,
basically says, if we (the gov't) didn't give you the right to see it,
listen to it, record it, or know about it, if you do any of those
things, it's illegal.

I think you have that a bit backwards. The purpose of the OSA is to prevent
people from *revealing* sensitive information. If someone in posession of an
official secret was to reveal it to me, as a member of the public, it would
be they who have broken the act, not me.

In article ,
says...
That's to be expected; the UK as an Official Secrets Act, which, AIUI,
basically says, if we (the gov't) didn't give you the right to see it,
listen to it, record it, or know about it, if you do any of those
things, it's illegal.
In the US, it's basically the opposite of that; it's illegal if they
tell you it is. If they don't tell you it's illegal, it isn't.
Basically.

--
Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"


This sounds similar the old dictum

"Definition of a FREE country vs a DICTATORSHIP"

1. Free Country:

If there is not a law forbidding it, its allowed.

2. Dictatorship:

If there is not a law allowing it, its forbidden.


I live my life by the rules above.. several times in the past I have had need
to repeat it to an officer of the law.. They have (so far) always understood.

--
Larry Lynch
Mystic, Ct.

In article ,
says...
That's to be expected; the UK as an Official Secrets Act, which, AIUI,
basically says, if we (the gov't) didn't give you the right to see it,
listen to it, record it, or know about it, if you do any of those
things, it's illegal.
In the US, it's basically the opposite of that; it's illegal if they
tell you it is. If they don't tell you it's illegal, it isn't.
Basically.

--
Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"


This sounds similar the old dictum

"Definition of a FREE country vs a DICTATORSHIP"

1. Free Country:

If there is not a law forbidding it, its allowed.

2. Dictatorship:

If there is not a law allowing it, its forbidden.


I live my life by the rules above.. several times in the past I have had need
to repeat it to an officer of the law.. They have (so far) always understood.

--
Larry Lynch
Mystic, Ct.

Larry wrote:

I live my life by the rules above.. several times in the past I have had need
to repeat it to an officer of the law.. They have (so far) always understood.

One day you'll run into deputy-Bubba, and not only will he not
understand... ;-)

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Larry wrote:

I live my life by the rules above.. several times in the past I have had need
to repeat it to an officer of the law.. They have (so far) always understood.

One day you'll run into deputy-Bubba, and not only will he not
understand... ;-)

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On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:47:24 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Big Bill writes:

And what happened? Did the fears come true?

Yes.

They can't have, if the same fears are still being expressed,
can they?

Societies tend to oscillate between great freedom and zero freedom.

Some do.
Most, when they reach zero freedom, stay there until an outside force
(war) forces a new societal form.

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Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:47:24 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Big Bill writes:

And what happened? Did the fears come true?

Yes.

They can't have, if the same fears are still being expressed,
can they?

Societies tend to oscillate between great freedom and zero freedom.

Some do.
Most, when they reach zero freedom, stay there until an outside force
(war) forces a new societal form.

--
Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:30:25 GMT, Chris Brown
wrote:

In article ,
Big Bill wrote:

That's to be expected; the UK as an Official Secrets Act, which, AIUI,
basically says, if we (the gov't) didn't give you the right to see it,
listen to it, record it, or know about it, if you do any of those
things, it's illegal.

I think you have that a bit backwards. The purpose of the OSA is to prevent
people from *revealing* sensitive information. If someone in posession of an
official secret was to reveal it to me, as a member of the public, it would
be they who have broken the act, not me.

Yet, in Britain, you are limited in what, for example, you can listen
to on the radio waves, no?
Yes. (You can't, for example, listen to your Government transmissions,
even the local police, unless things have really changed in the last
few years.)
Nothing to do with what you *reveal*, it's what you are allowed to
listen to.

--
Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"

In article , Big Bill
writes
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:30:25 GMT, Chris Brown
wrote:

In article ,
Big Bill wrote:

That's to be expected; the UK as an Official Secrets Act, which, AIUI,
basically says, if we (the gov't) didn't give you the right to see it,
listen to it, record it, or know about it, if you do any of those
things, it's illegal.

I think you have that a bit backwards. The purpose of the OSA is to prevent
people from *revealing* sensitive information. If someone in posession of an
official secret was to reveal it to me, as a member of the public, it would
be they who have broken the act, not me.

Yet, in Britain, you are limited in what, for example, you can listen
to on the radio waves, no?
Yes. (You can't, for example, listen to your Government transmissions,
even the local police, unless things have really changed in the last
few years.)
Nothing to do with what you *reveal*, it's what you are allowed to
listen to.

AIUI, you can listen to those radio broadcasts, but you are not allowed
to make use of confidential information contained in them - IOW, if you
use it to make a quick getaway from the cops, you are committing an
offence.

David
--
David Littlewood

In article , Big Bill
writes
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:30:25 GMT, Chris Brown
wrote:

In article ,
Big Bill wrote:

That's to be expected; the UK as an Official Secrets Act, which, AIUI,
basically says, if we (the gov't) didn't give you the right to see it,
listen to it, record it, or know about it, if you do any of those
things, it's illegal.

I think you have that a bit backwards. The purpose of the OSA is to prevent
people from *revealing* sensitive information. If someone in posession of an
official secret was to reveal it to me, as a member of the public, it would
be they who have broken the act, not me.

Yet, in Britain, you are limited in what, for example, you can listen
to on the radio waves, no?
Yes. (You can't, for example, listen to your Government transmissions,
even the local police, unless things have really changed in the last
few years.)
Nothing to do with what you *reveal*, it's what you are allowed to
listen to.

AIUI, you can listen to those radio broadcasts, but you are not allowed
to make use of confidential information contained in them - IOW, if you
use it to make a quick getaway from the cops, you are committing an
offence.

David
--
David Littlewood